Caponi fired

SUMG · 2024-11-16T22:48:12Z

Until Coach Keebler learns that the offense needs to complement the defense.....I'm not sure how much is gonna change.

You can't constantly be going for it on 4th down. You need to play field position. You need to learn to "tilt the field" occasionally. You need to take 3 when it's available.

So not sure that firing Caponi solves all our probs.

Hunter Green · 2024-11-16T22:49:57Z

1 minute ago, SUMG said:

Until Coach Keebler learns that the offense needs to complement the defense.....I'm not sure how much is gonna change.

You can't constantly be going for it on 4th down. You need to play field position. You need to learn to "tilt the field" occasionally. You need to take 3 when it's available.

So not sure that firing Caponi solves all our probs.

Completely agree.

3_n_out · 2024-11-16T22:50:38Z

I think both EM and Mosley are feeling the backlash from everybody. There has to be someone aware of this forum under Mosley reporting back to get the pulse. I mean they’re not gonna go ask students how things are.

I agree 100% about the firing, but this no way clears EM. This is still his team and his decisions that have us where we are. Keep that seat HOT!

Edited 2 hours ago by 3_n_out

Mean Green 93-98 · 2024-11-16T22:53:26Z

1 minute ago, 3_n_out said:

I think both EM and Mosley are feeling the backlash from everybody. There has to be someone aware of this forum under Mosley reporting back to get the pulse. I mean they’re not gonna go ask students how things are.

I really hope our head coach and athletic director are not consulting a fan message board to determine major personnel decisions.

rcade · 2024-11-16T22:54:05Z

25 minutes ago, Tom McKrackin said:

Sort of chicknshit to fire him so late in the season. Seems like Morris is trying to find a scapegoat. Same for Mosley.

When Mike Norvell fired his OC, DC and WR coach last Sunday, this was the rationale for why it happened when it did:

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But the timing of the firings is what is most noteworthy. The new college football early signing period has forced teams to rethink their timeline for coaching changes, and like most other schools in the country, FSU had to make a decision now in order to salvage their current class as it stands.

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/fsu/2024/11/12/florida-state-football-fires-coaches-early-signing-period-recruiting-mike-norvell/76195458007/

untbowler · 2024-11-16T22:56:13Z

I hope EM has Colby Carthel on speed dial offering him the DC for next year. He recruits well to SFA, he could even better at UNT with its much better facilities

3_n_out · 2024-11-16T22:58:10Z

2 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

I really hope our head coach and athletic director are not consulting a fan message board to determine major personnel decisions.

Not to make major decisions, no. However, to get a sense for how supporters are feeling…yes.

UNTLifer · 2024-11-16T22:59:38Z

5 minutes ago, rcade said:

When Mike Norvell fired his OC, DC and WR coach last Sunday, this was the rationale for why it happened when it did:

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/fsu/2024/11/12/florida-state-football-fires-coaches-early-signing-period-recruiting-mike-norvell/76195458007/

And then they lost more top recruits.

NT93 · 2024-11-16T23:07:58Z

1 hour ago, keith said:

This reeks of Morris trying to save his hide.

I feel like that’s why/when coordinators are often fired.

SUMG · 2024-11-16T23:13:08Z

For years, we've been told by coaches and Athletic Directors, that every coach needs a 5 year contract. Otherwise, they can't recruit......because the kids want to know that the coach will be there for all of his/her playing career.

In the day and age of The Portal....isn't the "it must be a 5 year contract" thing.....moot???

rcade · 2024-11-16T23:13:26Z

9 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

And then they lost more top recruits.

FSU is in such bad shape that a lot of students stopped going to games. They still pregame like nobody's business at the frat houses, but the crowds at Doak are thin even after they reduced seats by 20,000 this season for stadium renovation.

My son goes there and I attended their home losses to Clemson and UNC. Even a P5/4/3/2 program with multiple national championships has to put a product on the field to pack the house.

emmitt01 · 2024-11-16T23:24:48Z

35 minutes ago, SUMG said:

Until Coach Keebler learns that the offense needs to complement the defense.....I'm not sure how much is gonna change.

You can't constantly be going for it on 4th down. You need to play field position. You need to learn to "tilt the field" occasionally. You need to take 3 when it's available.

So not sure that firing Caponi solves all our probs.

If I have a broken leg and am being chased by a bear, I’m pretty excited if my leg is miraculously healed

Rudy · 2024-11-16T23:40:47Z

45 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

I really hope our head coach and athletic director are not consulting a fan message board to determine major personnel decisions.

Considering how many on this board are longtime season ticket holders die hard fans, and the heart of this fanbase, I HOPE they are aware of this board and what's being said.

FirefightnRick · 2024-11-16T23:41:07Z

52 minutes ago, SUMG said:

Until Coach Keebler learns that the offense needs to complement the defense.....I'm not sure how much is gonna change.

You can't constantly be going for it on 4th down. You need to play field position. You need to learn to "tilt the field" occasionally. You need to take 3 when it's available.

So not sure that firing Caponi solves all our probs.

Exactly.

Rick

mgfan · 2024-11-16T23:48:23Z

2 hours ago, keith said:

Yep, too little, too late. This reeks of Morris trying to save his hide. We need a thorough house cleaning.

Exactly what I was thinking. He is finally feeling the heat, but it is too late. He should have made changes a year ago.

Morris needs to go too. It is his program and he let it get this bad. It is on him at this point.

BigWillie · 2024-11-17T00:05:03Z

1 hour ago, SUMG said:

Until Coach Keebler learns that the offense needs to complement the defense.....I'm not sure how much is gonna change.

You can't constantly be going for it on 4th down. You need to play field position. You need to learn to "tilt the field" occasionally. You need to take 3 when it's available.

So not sure that firing Caponi solves all our probs.

It solves one. Happy day!!

Hunter Green · 2024-11-17T00:17:23Z

1 hour ago, SUMG said:

For years, we've been told by coaches and Athletic Directors, that every coach needs a 5 year contract. Otherwise, they can't recruit......because the kids want to know that the coach will be there for all of his/her playing career.

In the day and age of The Portal....isn't the "it must be a 5 year contract" thing.....moot???

How long is Morris' contract?

SUMG · 2024-11-17T00:19:36Z

1 minute ago, Hunter Green said:

How long is Morris' contract?

5 years. 3 more years left....at $4.5 million over those three years.

WanderingEagle · 2024-11-17T00:20:48Z

Step 1 hire art briles as head coach
Step 2 hire gary patterson as defensive coordinator
Step 3 hire zack orr as offensive coordinator

Step 4 enjoy some wins

MeanGreenZen · 2024-11-17T00:23:58Z

Morris is still in good shape. His team is fun to watch and he just posted one of the highest attended games in program history. He also has a chance to win a bowl game. Something that hasn’t happened here in too long.
All he has to do is get the defense to slightly above average and we have a legitimate conference contender and excitement heading into next season.

Edited 1 hour ago by MeanGreenZen

BigWillie · 2024-11-17T00:25:57Z

7 minutes ago, WanderingEagle said:

Step 1 hire art briles as head coach
Step 2 hire gary patterson as defensive coordinator
Step 3 hire zack orr as offensive coordinator

Step 4 enjoy some wins

Zach Orr is a defensive guy.

Edited 1 hour ago by BigWillie

BigWillie · 2024-11-17T00:27:23Z

2 minutes ago, MeanGreenZen said:

Morris is still in good shape. His team is fun to watch and he just posted one of the highest attended games in program history. He also has a chance to win a bowl game. Something that hasn’t happened here in too long.
All he has to do is get the defense to slightly above average and we have a legitimate conference contender and excitement heading into next season.

I agree with this. I understand he made these decisions, but a lot of good coaches have bad hires. Now if this one fails.....

wardly · 2024-11-17T00:41:31Z

3 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

They utilized a reasonable formation last week…and then arrogantly abandoned it

Well Army rarely passes so it made sense to use a 4 man front. We just don't have enough good players on defense so I expect ECU to pick up where UTSA left off.

UNTLifer · 2024-11-17T00:42:21Z

I appreciate Morris’ honesty and lack of coach speak. I would like to see him succeed here but he has to dial back the aggressiveness on fourth downs a tad. I think getting the defense squared away will help greatly just by taking pressure off of the offense where they feel they have to score every possession.
I am intrigued to see what Odom does with this group the remainder of the year. He has a pretty solid resume.

UNTLifer · 2024-11-17T00:45:06Z

1 minute ago, wardly said:

Well Army rarely passes so it made sense to use a 4 man front. We just don't have enough good players on defense so I expect ECU to pick up where UTSA left off.

We rarely get pressure without blitzing people and leaving gaps in our coverage. Moving, I hope, to a four man front and running a more traditional system should help. I don’t think this is purely a talent issue. I think we have very capable players on D that are being put into a system that they’ve never played.