Elf blew this one

[Tom McKrackin]

Some of the play calling decisions were very questionable tonight.

[drycreek]

can not blame defense for this one------

[keith]

1 hour ago, Tom McKrackin said:

Some of the play calling decisions were very questionable tonight.

We got homed at home with some of the officiating, but agreed, this one falls squarely on Eric Morris and some amateur-hour coaching decisions.  But, hey, we were the first to get a lead on Army so far this season, so we got that going for us.  What a disaster our football program is sometimes.  

[SUMG]

I loved Coach Mike Leach....as a football personality. He was quite a hoot.

But, I hope like Hell that Eric Morris is the last guy we hire from The Mike Leach Coaching Tree. Because, I am sick of this kind of football. 

[3_n_out]

Bad play calling and bad execution by our QB was the headliner tonight. This was after having two weeks to prepare. Just not good. 

[FirefightnRick]

7 hours ago, SUMG said:

I loved Coach Mike Leach....as a football personality. He was quite a hoot.

But, I hope like Hell that Eric Morris is the last guy we hire from The Mike Leach Coaching Tree. Because, I am sick of this kind of football. 

 

I’ll guess I’ll never understand it?  

On the 4th and goal from the 2.  There was 12:56 left in the 2nd quarter, down 7-3.  At that point you surely realize you’re facing the 28th ranked pass defense, the 3rd ranked run defense, the 1st ranked scoring defense that’s only giving up 11.25 ppg, and the 5th ranked defense overall that just stuffed you three times inside the 5.   Your not going to get many chances in this game.  Your just not because they can run the ball and sustain drives and play keep-away as they’ve done for years.  How do you NOT kick there and reward your defense for a solid effort thus far by pulling within 1 point?

All I can take away from this game is, unlike in ‘07 at least we didn’t freeze our own kicker, twice….and then lose?

 

Rick

Edited Sunday at 09:35 AM by FirefightnRick

[Glory to the Green]

4 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

How do you NOT kick there and reward your defense for a solid effort thus far by pulling within 1 point?

I’m with you, but Morris believed we’d need the 7 points.  He did not believe we would stop them.  He assumed a 7-6 game would turn to 14-6. 

Army shortens the game. We tried to, too. We had six offensive drives the entire game!  Our 3 and out really crapped the bed yesterday. 

[TIgreen01]

2 hours ago, Glory to the Green said:

I’m with you, but Morris believed we’d need the 7 points.  He did not believe we would stop them.  He assumed a 7-6 game would turn to 14-6. 

Army shortens the game. We tried to, too. We had six offensive drives the entire game!  Our 3 and out really crapped the bed yesterday. 

Then you’re still down just 8 if it does go 14-6.  If Army shortens the game, then you have to have the points that much more when they are there to get.

[3_n_out]

2 hours ago, Glory to the Green said:

I’m with you, but Morris believed we’d need the 7 points.  He did not believe we would stop them.  He assumed a 7-6 game would turn to 14-6. 

Army shortens the game. We tried to, too. We had six offensive drives the entire game!  Our 3 and out really crapped the bed yesterday. 

I’m still waiting for those 7 points

[Ross Hodgeson]

7 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

How do you NOT kick there and reward your defense for a solid effort thus far by pulling within 1 point?

Amen.  Totally in agreement with you on this @FirefightnRick

[Rudy]

This game is square on the shoulders of the offense and our offensive "genius".  Army legitimately tried to give us the game. 

[untcampbell]

I won't lean either way on this one. Agree the defense played a hell of a game. I don't think EM would have tried the onside kick after the FG if he knew the defense would play as it did. If I was told we would give up 14 points to ARMY, I would have metaphorically bet the house we win. But had we shortened a drive or two more giving us the ball one or two more times, maybe we have enough to win.

Offense had few penalties this game it seemed. I guess that happens when you only have the ball 15 minutes. You could argue not scoring 7 points on the opening drive, plus an apparent bad call on the goal line in the 2Q, lost the game.

That the offense got as close as it did against the 28th ranked pass defense, the 3rd ranked run defense, the 1st ranked scoring defense that’s only giving up 11.25 ppg, and the 5th ranked defense overall is a tribute to both the offense and the defense. We had our shots and blew most of them. 

 

GMG

Edited Sunday at 07:27 PM by untcampbell

[golfingomez]

My only real problem from Saturday was not taking the three points at the goal line... (Even though i thought we scored the TD)

The onside kick is a choice, and i can live with it. 

The interceptions are on Morris, that first one was horrible, the second one less so.

[ChiefTenBeers2015]

What about defensively? I’m sure it’s mentioned somewhere else, but a few defensive plays were blown as well…Army possessed the ball damn near the whole 3rd quarter…imagine what a Mean Green defensive stop in the 3rd would have done for the outcome of the game…

[FirefightnRick]

We were on Bad Beats tonight.  Looks like we really got screwed on that play on the goal line in the 2nd qtr?

 

 

Rick

[NT80]

10 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

 

We were on Bad Beats tonight.  Looks like we really got screwed on that play on the goal line in the 2nd qtr?

 

It was easy to see the ball on the TV replay on/over the goal line.  I don't know what the refs were looking at??

[UNTLifer]

That officiating crew blew.

[MeanGreen22]

On 11/10/2024 at 7:35 AM, Glory to the Green said:

I’m with you, but Morris believed we’d need the 7 points.  He did not believe we would stop them.  He assumed a 7-6 game would turn to 14-6. 

Army shortens the game. We tried to, too. We had six offensive drives the entire game!  Our 3 and out really crapped the bed yesterday. 

I agreed with the process, not the execution. 99/100 times we score from that position so I'm not going to retroactively criticize a decision I agreed with in the moment.

 

BUT how we don't have a QB sneak in the playbook is beyond me. All we had to do is get under center and get a single inch of a push. Giving Army a free 3-4 yards to get downhill by getting into shotgun in that scenario was absolutely a bad call.

[greenminer]

THANK YOU @FirefightnRick! This Bad Beats take/video can be found online.  The Mean Green/Army call can be found at 1'51"

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/42339957

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/42339957?t=111

 

Edited yesterday at 05:52 PM by greenminer

[TIgreen01]

I suppose the reversed fumble didn't wind up hurting us since we sacked them on the next play....but that review and reversal was even worse to me.  That crew very much reminded me of the TU crews in Austin.  Now, if Army runs the table and lands a playoff spot, the extra payout to the conference will help soften the blow.

[untjim1995]

4 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

That officiating crew blew.

I’d imagine the AAC was rather happy with their crew. Gotta protect their cash cow 

[NT80]

4 hours ago, MeanGreen22 said:

BUT how we don't have a QB sneak in the playbook is beyond me. All we had to do is get under center and get a single inch of a push. Giving Army a free 3-4 yards to get downhill by getting into shotgun in that scenario was absolutely a bad call.

Poor formation (shotgun) and poor playcalling....repeating the same poor call: up the middle when stuffed twice already.  Chandler Morris could have easily faked the handoff and went around the edge.  He has wheels.