***OFFICIAL ARMY VS MEAN GREEN IN-GAME DISCUSSION***

[Ken14]

No he's a butthole who lives in his Mom's basement spewing bs like this.

 

[Green Lantern]

3 minutes ago, Ken14 said:

No he's a butthole who lives in his Mom's basement spewing bs like this.

 

I mean it’s fine to be upset after this loss (I sure as hell am) and I know the dude is trolling, but what is he saying that’s legitimately wrong?

If it makes it more palatable, I’ll say it. North Texas Football never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Seriously - What and when was the last really noteworthy thing the football program has accomplished? The HOD Bowl win in 2013? That was a decade and 2 coaching staffs ago. 5 largest crowds in DATCU history, UNT record 0-5. It’s so tiresome. Our diehard fanbase deserves better than this. 

[Ken14]

2 minutes ago, Green Lantern said:

I mean it’s fine to be upset after this loss (I sure as hell am) and I know the dude is trolling, but what is he saying that’s legitimately wrong?

If it makes it more palatable, I’ll say it. North Texas Football never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Seriously - What and when was the last really noteworthy thing the football program has accomplished? The HOD Bowl win in 2013? That was a decade and 2 coaching staffs ago. 5 largest crowds in DATCU history, UNT record 0-5. It’s so tiresome. Our diehard fanbase deserves better than this. 

Your correct Sir. point well taken, and numbers don't lie. But he's still a cod sack......

[Green Otaku]

1 hour ago, 3_n_out said:

Oh I agree. But, it’d be nice if our school was a little more proactive when it comes to improving the e athletic department. Invest in real coaches as opposed to first timers and giving chances to go the cheap route. But, alas…we are who we thought we are

 

Edited Sunday at 02:30 AM by Green Otaku

[UNTLifer]

3 hours ago, Rudy said:

How?

Equating injuries to a strength and training program. Some injuries?  Sure, but you have to evaluate how the injury was caused before pointing fingers at the S&C staff. 

[MeanGreenMat]

I keep seeing posts about how the defense got it done today. I didn’t see that. Army did what they always do to high powered offense teams- slow down, hold the damn ball. We couldn’t force a turnover for large portions of that game. We couldn’t hold the line against that run. I agree that the offense didn’t do them any favors, but Army played us like a damn fiddle for 14 minutes. 

[RBP79]

Sooo....3 games left. Next two maybe tuff. I see Seth Littreal written all over this.

[Shark84]

4 hours ago, Cougar King said:

There's a reason why Oklahoma and TCU ran him off...

Yet before our bye week he was leading the country in passing yards. Nobody ran him off. He had a bad day against the number one scoring defense. 

[TIgreen01]

Typical problems with the air raid showed up today.  Gotta have a real running game and be able to run it more than just when the D shows a light box.

[greenminer]

On 11/9/2024 at 9:33 PM, RBP79 said:

Sooo....3 games left. Next two maybe tuff. I see Seth Littreal written all over this.

Very similar right now. The post-Caponi era, if/when that happens, will make the difference

Edited Monday at 06:06 AM by greenminer

[Shark84]

12 minutes ago, TIgreen01 said:

Typical problems with the air raid showed up today.  Gotta have a real running game and be able to run it more than just when the D shows a light box.

Not having our top 3 running backs hasn't helped. Offensive line has been disappointing.

[GoMeanGreen1999]

3 hours ago, Green Lantern said:

I mean it’s fine to be upset after this loss (I sure as hell am) and I know the dude is trolling, but what is he saying that’s legitimately wrong?

If it makes it more palatable, I’ll say it. North Texas Football never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Seriously - What and when was the last really noteworthy thing the football program has accomplished? The HOD Bowl win in 2013? That was a decade and 2 coaching staffs ago. 5 largest crowds in DATCU history, UNT record 0-5. It’s so tiresome. Our diehard fanbase deserves better than this. 

Thankfully we have a basketball program that is MUCH, much better across the board.  Hopefully we keep pouring lots of money into the football program to get the same results year after year.

[Rudy]

1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

Equating injuries to a strength and training program. Some injuries?  Sure, but you have to evaluate how the injury was caused before pointing fingers at the S&C staff. 

We've been plagued with injuries since 2014, after that S&C coach left for BYU. 

[3_n_out]

55 minutes ago, RBP79 said:

Sooo....3 games left. Next two maybe tuff. I see Seth Littreal written all over this.

I would just combine both eras since we don’t know when one stops and the other starts. 

[ForneyGreen]

5 hours ago, greenminer said:

If I read it correctly, we are now 0-5 in front of the top 5 largest crowds in DATCU history.

Also, another Mean Green bed shitting on a national broadcast against am opportune foe.

No one has to wonder why this program has never attracted a sizable fan base ... no signature wins, and we perform poorly in front of our largest crowds.

This program just isn't capable of turning the corner.

[Cougar King]

5 hours ago, Green Lantern said:

I mean it’s fine to be upset after this loss (I sure as hell am) and I know the dude is trolling, but what is he saying that’s legitimately wrong?

If it makes it more palatable, I’ll say it. North Texas Football never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Seriously - What and when was the last really noteworthy thing the football program has accomplished? The HOD Bowl win in 2013? That was a decade and 2 coaching staffs ago. 5 largest crowds in DATCU history, UNT record 0-5. It’s so tiresome. Our diehard fanbase deserves better than this. 

I give credit where credit is due..if UNT was kicking ass at 10-0, there wouldn't be anything I could say.

 

All I did was point out an obsevration. UNT has been given so many chances to prove themselves and they keep getting squandered.

[97and03]

8 hours ago, Green Otaku said:

He's got next year to find a new DC and whatever other changes he thinks he needs to make, but a mediocre year next year should seal his fate.

He also needs to fire the OC (himself) and run the whole team. Honestly, I think he has shown that he is just an OC and not a head coach. 

[El Paso Eagle]

6 hours ago, Shark84 said:

Not having our top 3 running backs hasn't helped. Offensive line has been disappointing.

No denying we've had injuries on the line but how much does it impact our ability to adjust that our office line coach came to us as a graduate assistant. I still worry that until coach Morris can adjust his air raid mentality we will continue to have an entertaining yet middle of the pack team.

[UNT 90 Grad]

8 hours ago, MeanGreenMat said:

I keep seeing posts about how the defense got it done today. I didn’t see that. Army did what they always do to high powered offense teams- slow down, hold the damn ball. We couldn’t force a turnover for large portions of that game. We couldn’t hold the line against that run. I agree that the offense didn’t do them any favors, but Army played us like a damn fiddle for 14 minutes. 

[GMG_Dallas]

8 hours ago, MeanGreenMat said:

I keep seeing posts about how the defense got it done today. I didn’t see that. Army did what they always do to high powered offense teams- slow down, hold the damn ball. We couldn’t force a turnover for large portions of that game. We couldn’t hold the line against that run. I agree that the offense didn’t do them any favors, but Army played us like a damn fiddle for 14 minutes. 

The Army QB threw his first interception of the year today and they had multiple turnovers for the first time all season. Try again.

[3_n_out]

7 hours ago, Cougar King said:

I give credit where credit is due..if UNT was kicking ass at 10-0, there wouldn't be anything I could say.

 

All I did was point out an obsevration. UNT has been given so many chances to prove themselves and they keep getting squandered.

This is our modus operandi. Every year we’re hopeful, but soon realize no matter how hard and fast you pedal, the stationary bike doesn’t get you across the street. We lack a culture that other prospects can hang their hats on. That’s a byproduct of the coach/AD you hire to lead. 

[Green Lantern]

8 hours ago, Cougar King said:

I give credit where credit is due..if UNT was kicking ass at 10-0, there wouldn't be anything I could say.

 

All I did was point out an obsevration. UNT has been given so many chances to prove themselves and they keep getting squandered.

Trust me. Most of us are well aware.

[Ross Hodgeson]

9 hours ago, Cougar King said:

I give credit where credit is due..if UNT was kicking ass at 10-0, there wouldn't be anything I could say.

 

All I did was point out an obsevration. UNT has been given so many chances to prove themselves and they keep getting squandered.

A fair take.

[MeanGreenMat]

8 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

The Army QB threw his first interception of the year today and they had multiple turnovers for the first time all season. Try again.

The stats with context tell us more. I feel like Army kept the defense on the field on purpose to limit a famously high flying North Texas team. I agree we had turnovers- how effective were they? How many 1st downs did army have in a single drive? Army never turned the ball over on downs with high 3rd down efficiency. We lucked out on the fumble from the RB. How long did it take to get the turnover? How was the field position that the defense earned? Those are better questions.

Our defense did a lot and I loved seeing the sack, near fumble (ruled an incompletion), interception, and lack of penalties(that pass interference in the red zone hurt) to deflate their passing game- all 4 attempts. Then, they took us on the ground. Daily slid early to drain more time on a run near the 50. They line up with the same formation for an easy read to gain a yard or two, but, more importantly, the clock starts back up. This was triple option football and I feel like we failed to disrupt their plans.
 

I want us to be better on all sides of the ball. I don’t a moral victory. I want us to acknowledge that Army, just like Tulane 2 weeks ago, used the run effectively against the defense. However, they used it to play at their tempo/style limiting our offense time on the field. I love the heart these players showed. I feel like any one of those teams from Army’s past 13 games are not the caliber we should be proud of being better than (except Coastal and Navy). Watching at army launch the ball vs Temple, Tulsa, & UAB was insane. But Daily is a okay QB that fits the triple option scheme as a runner primarily. Horvath is a miracle for service academy passing. Daily has 51 passing attempts YTD versus Horvath’s monstrous 117 attempts for a service academy. Daily has the same interception rate as Henigan. 
 

I’ll see y’all in San Antonio. I’m still excited to see this team play and I know we can win out the season. I just feel like they were par for the course this Army weekend. If anyone complained about the DC all season, this game should not sway someone.

[GMG_Dallas]

4 hours ago, MeanGreenMat said:

The stats with context tell us more. I feel like Army kept the defense on the field on purpose to limit a famously high flying North Texas team. I agree we had turnovers- how effective were they? How many 1st downs did army have in a single drive? Army never turned the ball over on downs with high 3rd down efficiency. We lucked out on the fumble from the RB. How long did it take to get the turnover? How was the field position that the defense earned? Those are better questions.

Our defense did a lot and I loved seeing the sack, near fumble (ruled an incompletion), interception, and lack of penalties(that pass interference in the red zone hurt) to deflate their passing game- all 4 attempts. Then, they took us on the ground. Daily slid early to drain more time on a run near the 50. They line up with the same formation for an easy read to gain a yard or two, but, more importantly, the clock starts back up. This was triple option football and I feel like we failed to disrupt their plans.
 

Daily had three runs near the 50 all game and all 3 came with the game at 7-3 and before the 4th quarter. Are you're really suggesting they were draining the clock up 4 with 20+ minutes to go instead of expanding their lead to two possessions?

Our defense was not shut down, sure. No G5 defense really ever is against the service academies if you think death by paper cut for 10 plays without allowing a score doesn't count. Your statements that our defense couldn't force turnovers for long periods of play and even lucked out on a fumble are asinine. Army doesn't committ foolish turnovers. They've had 3 turnovers all year, 2 of which were this past Saturday in Denton. That's not luck.

You don't want to give credit where it's due and that's fine. I'll move on to next week. You can keep ignoring the jobs our defense and special teams (sniffed out the fake punt) did. If our offense were truly elite, we'd have at least scored 1 touchdown. Couldn't even do that.