24/25 MBB Attendance Tracker

[NorthTexasWeLove]

9 hours ago, MeanGreenZen said:

The student attendance at the Tulane game was EMBARRASSING.

There is a small group of loud, passionate Maniacs who sit close to the opposing bench, but other than that… I bet there were less than 100 regular students (those not in the band or cheerleaders, etc).

No Greek presence. I’m telling you, if the AD emphasized Greek attendance and could get that going it would make a huge impact. 

It used to be "just win." Now, according to some, it's only a matter of who we win against. Lol. We ain't a bluebood. We aren't annually knocking off legitimate bluebloods. It's a pipe dream. We are 2nd in OUR league. We are probably going to blow by 20 reg season wins vs OUR schedule...

 

Yet...

 

"BuT I WaNt tO seE uS bEaT KeNtUcKy aNd DuKe... mehhhh more self loathing" 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by NorthTexasWeLove

[Matt from A700]

3 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Great.  One of their events during this week should be attending a game.

Shouldn't be hard to make this happen.

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

On 2/10/2025 at 10:50 PM, UNTLifer said:

Sorry, but this is a terrible take.

It's almost not even a take at this point; it's the facts. Do you think I like it? Absolutely not. I am always pushing for people to come to games and encouraging other students to come to games. You just have to lower your expectations because you can give away only so much and win so much; it's literally the mindset. The Maniacs leader, Jake, does a great job at attempting to reel students in, and it's honestly a grueling "job". Step foot on campus and try to talk to students about coming to games and why. Beware, you won't have very many positive reactions...

[MeanGreenZen]

21 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

It's almost not even a take at this point; it's the facts. Do you think I like it? Absolutely not. I am always pushing for people to come to games and encouraging other students to come to games. You just have to lower your expectations because you can give away only so much and win so much; it's literally the mindset. The Maniacs leader, Jake, does a great job at attempting to reel students in, and it's honestly a grueling "job". Step foot on campus and try to talk to students about coming to games and why. Beware, you won't have very many positive reactions...

We all went to school here. We know what it is like. I made the rounds drumming up student support for stuff when I was at UNT. It can be done. And you do have to grind. 
Doesn’t Jake get paid to do that? That is what the money is for. 

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

I am flat-out stunned by how many overreactions and repeated takes are being said on here. Accept reality. Which is that there will never be consistent student attendance or just regular fan attendance. Y'all act like this is not an issue at about every mid major, and some power conference, schools. FAU made a final four run, yet they had empty seats for several games in 23-24 season, and their arena capacity is 3,100!!!!

UNT has turned more and more into a commuter school, where students come here to get a degree and get to work, and the other portion of students who live on campus aren't always basketball fans. Remember, we are in the state of TEXAS, where football is king. Football attendance is obviously a very different animal here, but there is not a draw that the diehards like many of us on here see, even if there is a lot of winning. Ask 20 random students why they came to this school, maybe 1 of the 20 will even mention wanting to watch our basketball team. You can have all of the success possible; UNT could even make a final four run, yet everyone would be circling back to this topic by February. 

Greeks also don't care much about basketball, and it's not even a priority. Last year I saw a Greek tailgate outside the Pit, being heavily patroled by officers and we also lost that game (either UTSA or USF, I forget). They aren't going to want to come back, especially if you don't win that game. Not to mention some getting kicked out for signs and cussing, which is just their own fault.

You can complain about marketing and promotions all you want, nothing will truly move the needle.  

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

3 minutes ago, MeanGreenZen said:

We all went to school here. We know what it is like. I made the rounds drumming up student support for stuff when I was at UNT. It can be done. And you do have to grind. 
Doesn’t Jake get paid to do that? That is what the money is for. 

The key word is "Went". Demographics and interests have changed drastically over the last 5 years, especially from COVID. People don't really care, have jobs or don't even live in Denton. 

And yes, he does. I put the "" because obviously it's for students and they aren't going to be doing this job forever nor under salary by UNT athletics, it's a minimum wage job, but obviously there have been improvements along with the team winning. 

[LittleGreen_Birdie1]

On 2/10/2025 at 10:50 PM, UNTLifer said:

Sorry, but this is a terrible take.

It’s hard for students to get excited about a team that struggles to score more than the football team. They play ugly basketball. Not to mention the Pit is one of the worst arena’s in college basketball. No real history to sell there. It’s ugly, old and outdated. It’s only a brand to the old UNT fans who have lost touch on the new college basketball landscape. Nothing that will bring students in but maybe a more exciting brand of basketball or a new arena. The maniacs have tried but they probably don’t have enough money or resources to get the job done. 

[greenminer]

17 minutes ago, LittleGreen_Birdie1 said:

It’s hard for students to get excited about a team that struggles to score more than the football team. They play ugly basketball. Not to mention the Pit is one of the worst arena’s in college basketball. No real history to sell there. It’s ugly, old and outdated. It’s only a brand to the old UNT fans who have lost touch on the new college basketball landscape. Nothing that will bring students in but maybe a more exciting brand of basketball or a new arena. The maniacs have tried but they probably don’t have enough money or resources to get the job done. 

People like to watch their team win.  If they can win pretty, great! But winning ugly isn't a deal breaker.

Random thought about our facilities: if we are trying to appeal to a student that typically doesn't know or follow sports, would they even know that the Pit is an old or average facility? They could probably nit-pick about lightling but, other than that, I can see them coming in and not really thinking about it.

[CMJ]

Granted, I haven't attended a game in Denton in a few years so I guess it could be falling apart now, but I have been in several other college arenas.  From my experience there are way worse ones than the Super Pit.

[NorthTexasWeLove]

2 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

I am flat-out stunned by how many overreactions and repeated takes are being said on here. Accept reality. Which is that there will never be consistent student attendance or just regular fan attendance. Y'all act like this is not an issue at about every mid major, and some power conference, schools. FAU made a final four run, yet they had empty seats for several games in 23-24 season, and their arena capacity is 3,100!!!!

UNT has turned more and more into a commuter school, where students come here to get a degree and get to work, and the other portion of students who live on campus aren't always basketball fans. Remember, we are in the state of TEXAS, where football is king. Football attendance is obviously a very different animal here, but there is not a draw that the diehards like many of us on here see, even if there is a lot of winning. Ask 20 random students why they came to this school, maybe 1 of the 20 will even mention wanting to watch our basketball team. You can have all of the success possible; UNT could even make a final four run, yet everyone would be circling back to this topic by February. 

Greeks also don't care much about basketball, and it's not even a priority. Last year I saw a Greek tailgate outside the Pit, being heavily patroled by officers and we also lost that game (either UTSA or USF, I forget). They aren't going to want to come back, especially if you don't win that game. Not to mention some getting kicked out for signs and cussing, which is just their own fault.

You can complain about marketing and promotions all you want, nothing will truly move the needle.  

Horrible take. Accept it? My man, I hope prison isn't in your future. 

 

And NOTHING will move the needle? Alright, guys, pack it up and burn it all to the ground. 

[Green Lantern]

2 hours ago, LittleGreen_Birdie1 said:

It’s only a brand to the old UNT fans who have lost touch on the new college basketball landscape. 

I’d like to hear more about this “new college basketball landscape”.