24/25 MBB Attendance Tracker

NorthTexasWeLove · Saturday at 06:41 PM

19 hours ago, Mrs. Esterhouse said:

Not only is there not a good % of UNT people working for the Athletic Department, the WB/JM administration actually ran off the ones that were there. They don't seem to see any value in having people with UNT ties in the department and instead viewed them as a detriment.

That's either one of 2 reasons. 1: The UNT people sucked. 2: WB/JM didn't like the accountability that was being pushed by the UNT people.

NorthTexasWeLove · Saturday at 06:46 PM

On 1/10/2025 at 10:08 AM, MeanGreen22 said:

I think he's made some positive changes in a lot of key areas. The fall kickoff gala before football season was a great event. I believe season ticket sales are up across the board(?). The street basketball event was a lot of fun. I think he's handled 2 coaching hires pretty well.. I like Eric and think he's a good coach (but yes, this is a make a break year.. just how this goes). I LOVE Ross. Even though that was kind of a layup, Jared should get props for not overthinking and wanting to make a big splash on his first hire.

Football made some great strides this year in putting butts in seats. Win a couple more games that it looks even better. Yes, basketball is still behind in that regard but its not fair to ask someone to fix a couple decade long issue in 2 years. I've seen enough positives to give him the benefit of the doubt and give flexibility to things here or there that may still need addressing.

Basketball attendance isn't fixing a couple decades long problem. If my memory serves me here I believe the Jones era in basketball had better attendance than this current era. There was a 5-year gap stop of terribleness with Benford, then right back to competitiveness. It's very fair to demand basketball attendance to be better. If anything, it's a disservice if not brought up and corrected and quickly.

If ticket sales were up than we would hear about it. I haven't heard about it.

NT80 · Saturday at 06:59 PM

9 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Basketball attendance isn't fixing a couple decades long problem. If my memory serves me here I believe the Jones era in basketball had better attendance than this current era. There was a 5-year gap stop of terribleness with Benford, then right back to competitiveness. It's very fair to demand basketball attendance to be better. If anything, it's a disservice if not brought up and corrected and quickly.

If ticket sales were up than we would hear about it. I haven't heard about it.

You have to also consider that all of our games are now are on some form of live TV or streaming. That wasn't the case in the Jones era. We may have less attendance at the Pit, but more overall viewers for each game!

The in-person experience is a better experience. That is what should be promoted.

Zeleny' Orel · Sunday at 12:33 AM

And even if we support our team by watching them on TV or streaming, the TV audience can't see us, the team can't see us, and the team can't hear our support. If it's possible to get to the game, we need to be there in person not only to get the better in-person experience, but to show our support to others. GMG!

NorthTexasWeLove · Sunday at 04:29 PM

21 hours ago, NT80 said:

You have to also consider that all of our games are now are on some form of live TV or streaming. That wasn't the case in the Jones era. We may have less attendance at the Pit, but more overall viewers for each game!

The in-person experience is a better experience. That is what should be promoted.

Not sure I care about TV. I'm pretty sure that will dry up given the trajectory of things. The athletic department, given it is THEIR job, should be scratching and clawing for attendance figures. We have to create the environment that players want to play in and coaches want to coach in. The athletic department has no hand in TV in any way shape or form. Let's leave that to the conference front office and focus on what WE can improve.

NT80 · 2025-01-13T18:38:05Z

On 1/12/2025 at 10:29 AM, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Not sure I care about TV. I'm pretty sure that will dry up given the trajectory of things. The athletic department, given it is THEIR job, should be scratching and clawing for attendance figures. We have to create the environment that players want to play in and coaches want to coach in. The athletic department has no hand in TV in any way shape or form. Let's leave that to the conference front office and focus on what WE can improve.

We should care if we want to build the fan base. Lots of future fans/students start with interest seeing games on TV. It builds your Brand to places where people may not easily be able to come to games in person.

NorthTexasWeLove · 2025-01-13T18:42:05Z

1 minute ago, NT80 said:

We should care if we want to build the fan base. Lots of future fans/students start with interest seeing games on TV. It builds your Brand to places where people may not easily be able to come to games in person.

My point in not caring about TV is that our contract will expire and TV has openly moved almost exclusively to a big brand business model. After this contract expires there is no telling what our TV rev will be diminished to and how often we'll be on TV. My guess is that there will be a lot of disappointment.

greenminer · 2025-01-13T22:35:55Z

On 1/10/2025 at 5:07 PM, Mrs. Esterhouse said:

Not only is there not a good % of UNT people working for the Athletic Department, the WB/JM administration actually ran off the ones that were there. They don't seem to see any value in having people with UNT ties in the department and instead viewed them as a detriment.

Is it okay if I understand both sides? I get wanting a team that feels a part of family, and work like they are your biggest cheerleader. But I also have this not-so-wild idea that some people get in their comfort zone - surrounded by people that that have known - and get...lazy.

Maybe WB/JM saw the latter? I have zero insight.

Edited 18 hours ago by greenminer

NT80 · 2025-01-14T06:31:11Z

11 hours ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

My point in not caring about TV is that our contract will expire and TV has openly moved almost exclusively to a big brand business model. After this contract expires there is no telling what our TV rev will be diminished to and how often we'll be on TV. My guess is that there will be a lot of disappointment.

Well, the contract expiration is 7 years away. You can cry about it later.

NorthTexasWeLove · 2025-01-14T16:13:16Z

9 hours ago, NT80 said:

Well, the contract expiration is 7 years away. You can cry about it later.

I will, as we all will. However, for some reason my mind had been telling me the contract expires in 2027. You are correct and it doesn't expire until the 2031-32 season, that is a very good thing for the AAC and for us. The conference and her schools have about 6-7 years to really build a brand and following. I hope they take advantage.