Jump to content

Not looking good for Wren

cousin oliver
 Share

Recommended Posts

SUMG Grand Master

SUMG

Posted
Posted

Not sure why Neal Brown is Wren's fault.....he didn't hire him. But like Jason said....one fan's opinion on "X" doesn't really mean much. 

  • Upvote 4
  • Thanks 1
untbowler Grand Master

untbowler

Posted
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, SUMG said:

Not sure why Neal Brown is Wren's fault.....he didn't hire him. But like Jason said....one fan's opinion on "X" doesn't really mean much. 

Wren was adverse to firing anyone while at UNT, so now he is finding WVU actually wants accountability. Can not always just let contracts run out when firing should have happened

Edited by untbowler
  • Upvote 2
  • Thanks 4
SUMG Grand Master

SUMG

Posted
Posted
14 minutes ago, untbowler said:

Wren was adverse to firing anyone while at UNT, so now he is finding WVU actually wants accountability. Can not always just let contracts run out when firing should have happened

good point. 

  • Upvote 1
NT80 Grand Master

NT80

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, untbowler said:

Wren was adverse to firing anyone while at UNT, so now he is finding WVU actually wants accountability. Can not always just let contracts run out when firing should have happened

Agree.

Wren's first rookie mistake at NT as an AD was letting Benford stay for his 5th year as men's basketball coach.   He did find a nice replacement after finally firing Benford the next year, but it should have happened sooner.  Same for keeping Seth too long.  It's like he didn't want to fire anyone under contract.

As for Wren leaving NT for WVU, I thought he would move up eventually.  But that job location is a difficult place to make fans happy.  Don't enter the Portal and take the NIL without considering the warnings!

  • Upvote 4
wardly Grand Master

wardly

Posted
Posted
24 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Agree.

Wren's first rookie mistake at NT as an AD was letting Benford stay for his 5th year as men's basketball coach.   He did find a nice replacement after finally firing Benford the next year, but it should have happened sooner.  Same for keeping Seth too long.  It's like he didn't want to fire anyone under contract.

As for Wren leaving NT for WVU, I thought he would move up eventually.  But that job location is a difficult place to make fans happy.  Don't enter the Portal and take the NIL without considering the warnings!

UNT didn't have the money to buy Benford out. If Seth had beaten UTSA the second time that season he could still be here.It's easy to fire someone when you are not the one doing it.

  • Upvote 2
  • Thanks 1
  • Eye Roll 1
  • Downvote 1
Big Z Grand Master

Big Z

Posted
Posted
38 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Agree.

Wren's first rookie mistake at NT as an AD was letting Benford stay for his 5th year as men's basketball coach.   He did find a nice replacement after finally firing Benford the next year, but it should have happened sooner.  Same for keeping Seth too long.  It's like he didn't want to fire anyone under contract.

As for Wren leaving NT for WVU, I thought he would move up eventually.  But that job location is a difficult place to make fans happy.  Don't enter the Portal and take the NIL without considering the warnings!

Ya that was weak on the Benford part 

 

  • Upvote 2
Mean Green 93-98 Grand Master

Mean Green 93-98

Posted
Posted
6 hours ago, Jason Howeth said:

One deranged fan's opinion does not make a good basis for decisions.

I might add, this deranged fan is a Syracuse fan, not even a WVU fan.  No idea whether or not Wren has anything to worry about, but he certainly does not need to worry about this silly video.

  • Upvote 3
NT80 Grand Master

NT80

Posted
Posted
40 minutes ago, wardly said:

UNT didn't have the money to buy Benford out. If Seth had beaten UTSA the second time that season he could still be here.It's easy to fire someone when you are not the one doing it.

Still, he didn't have to let Benford stay in charge.  An Interim coach would have done a better job, or even a Fan out of the stands.  

  • Thanks 1
wardly Grand Master

wardly

Posted
Posted
14 hours ago, NT80 said:

Still, he didn't have to let Benford stay in charge.  An Interim coach would have done a better job, or even a Fan out of the stands.  

In all reality Benford was an interim coach. He was a really nice guy but over his head.

  • Upvote 1
  • Eye Roll 1
wardly Grand Master

wardly

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, NT80 said:

Yes, he was a nice guy, and probably a fine assistant, but not a good head coach.  

Johnny Jones left our basketball program with 6 straight winning seasons, 18-14 his last year.  

Tony Benford went 12-20 his first year, never had a winning season (62-95 overall), and finished 8-22 his final season that Wren wouldn’t fire him.  🔥 

As I said before UNT didn't have the $500,000 needed to fire him.

  • Upvote 1
  • Skeptical Eagle 1
VideoEagle Mentor

VideoEagle

Posted
Posted
On 10/30/2024 at 8:41 PM, wardly said:

UNT didn't have the money to buy Benford out. If Seth had beaten UTSA the second time that season he could still be here.It's easy to fire someone when you are not the one doing it.

Plus McCasland was not available when Wrenn was hired. Saying we should have fired Bedford when Wrenn was means no McCasland! McCasland's time here more than made up for an extra year of Bedford. 

  • Upvote 1
MCMLXXX Veteran

MCMLXXX

Posted
Posted
On 10/31/2024 at 3:27 PM, wardly said:

As I said before UNT didn't have the $500,000 needed to fire him.

Isn't that the exact amount we paid to buy McCasland out of his contract at Arkansas State?

  • Upvote 2
  • Haha 1
wardly Grand Master

wardly

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, MCMLXXX said:

Isn't that the exact amount we paid to buy McCasland out of his contract at Arkansas State?

 

3 hours ago, MCMLXXX said:

Isn't that the exact amount we paid to buy McCasland out of his contract at Arkansas State?

I don't know but doubt it. We did pay one of the North Carolina schools $100,000 to buy Karen Ashton out of her contract.She stayed at UNT one year before getting the top job at Texas. Ashton was fired mainly because she couldn't get past Baylor. She has been at UTSA the last few years.

  • Eye Roll 1
wardly Grand Master

wardly

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, wardly said:

 

I don't know but doubt it. We did pay one of the North Carolina schools $100,000 to buy Karen Ashton out of her contract.She stayed at UNT one year before getting the top job at Texas. Ashton was fired mainly because she couldn't get past Baylor. She has been at UTSA the last few years.

I'm pretty sure Texas reimbursed us the $100,000 which was part of her contract with us.

  • Thanks 1
  • Eye Roll 1
MCMLXXX Veteran

MCMLXXX

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, wardly said:

 

I don't know but doubt it. We did pay one of the North Carolina schools $100,000 to buy Karen Ashton out of her contract.She stayed at UNT one year before getting the top job at Texas. Ashton was fired mainly because she couldn't get past Baylor. She has been at UTSA the last few years.

It was paid, that is $500,000, although we delayed it until it was absolutely necessary. 

UPDATE: Grant McCasland has now paid his buyout to Arkansas State - RedWolfReport: Arkansas State Red Wolves Football & Basketball Recruiting

  • Upvote 1
97and03 Grand Master

97and03

Posted
Posted
18 hours ago, VideoEagle said:

Plus McCasland was not available when Wrenn was hired. Saying we should have fired Bedford when Wrenn was means no McCasland! McCasland's time here more than made up for an extra year of Bedford. 

I think McCasland was only at ArkSt for a year, so they got him from the lower ranks the year we should have fired Benford. So technically, he was available. 

  • Upvote 1

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Tell a friend

    Love GoMeanGreen.com? Tell a friend!

  • What's going on Mean Green?

    1. 20

      Earth to GMG

      The coaches caused the NIL issue in the first place with their outsized salaries and ridiculous employment contracts. And you better believe these AD's and coaches all are in on it and look after each other's financial interest. The players saw this and said "screw it" I'm getting paid too. How many of you on GMG have an employment contract or make what these clowns do a year? If you add up all the players and coaches and staff, what is that? Like 150 people? Even Ohio State's annual budget is only $215 million. In the business world, managing $200/million/year and 150 people isn't that big a deal and you certainly won't be compensated like a college football coach. This system is rigged! I say that coaches should be at will employees like the rest of us, now that they screwed up College Football.
      GreenEggs&Ham™ in Mean Green Football
    2. 20

      Earth to GMG

      No. I don’t want to reward my 6-7 team for beating another 6-7 team. #ReallyNewDenton
      Green with Envy in Mean Green Football
    3. 0

      Two years in....

      At the end of last year I graded Morris with a D (up from mid-season D- because he won the last two games). Many thought that grade was too low, but so far, I think either D or D- is still appropriate. Here are the wins under coach Morris along with the records of the teams we beat. 2023 LaTech (3-9) ACU (5-6) Temple (3-9) Tulsa (4-8) UAB (4-8) 2024 South Alabama (6-5) SFA (7-5) Wyoming (2-9) Tulsa (3-8) FAU (2-9) So after two seasons, the signature win in coach Morris' tenure is arguably Southland Conference and FCS-level Stephen F. Austin. Let that sink in. If South Alabama beats Texas State on Saturday, then we can probably elevate them to the signature win. Yay us. If it wasn't for Chad Morris falling in our laps, I'm not sure we get any of the five wins we currently have. This was/is the guy to take us to the next level? What a complete debacle.
      • 2
      • Sad
      • Upvote
      keith in Mean Green Football
    4. 9

      IF we have to keep Morris 🤢

      VS ECU
      MAX KOCH in Mean Green Football
    5. 8

      Fire Everybody

      MAX KOCH in Mean Green Football

  • Popular Contributors

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      15,479
    • Most Online
      1,865
    meangreen0015
    Newest Member
    meangreen0015
    Joined

  • Most Points

    1. 1
      El Paso Eagle
      El Paso Eagle
      167,009
    2. 2
      NT80
      NT80
      129,998
    3. 3
      KingDL1
      KingDL1
      128,415
    4. 4
      greenminer
      greenminer
      118,630
    5. 5
      TheReal_jayD
      TheReal_jayD
      104,984

  • Biggest Gamblers

    1. 1
      EdtheEagle
      EdtheEagle
      26,589,381
    2. 2
      UNTLifer
      UNTLifer
      4,156,819
    3. 3
      untphd
      untphd
      779,513
    4. 4
      flyonthewall
      flyonthewall
      670,422
    5. 5
      3_n_out
      3_n_out
      578,480
    6. 6
      SteaminWillieBeamin
    7. 7
      cousin oliver
      cousin oliver
      448,120
    8. 8
      meangreenfaninno
    9. 9
      South Texas Green
    10. 10
      outoftown
      outoftown
      314,541

WE BELIEVE IN THE MEAN GREEN!

News

Recruiting

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Please review our full Privacy Policy before using our site.