Not looking good for Wren

[cousin oliver]

Sorry to see that he may be in trouble bow at WVU.  A lot saying he should have moved on Neal Brown sooner but as we know that is not his easy going style.  Keep him and his family in your prayers.

  

[Jason Howeth]

One deranged fan's opinion does not make a good basis for decisions.

[SUMG]

Not sure why Neal Brown is Wren's fault.....he didn't hire him. But like Jason said....one fan's opinion on "X" doesn't really mean much. 

[untbowler]

1 hour ago, SUMG said:

Not sure why Neal Brown is Wren's fault.....he didn't hire him. But like Jason said....one fan's opinion on "X" doesn't really mean much. 

Wren was adverse to firing anyone while at UNT, so now he is finding WVU actually wants accountability. Can not always just let contracts run out when firing should have happened

Edited October 30, 2024 by untbowler

[SUMG]

14 minutes ago, untbowler said:

Wren was adverse to firing anyone while at UNT, so now he is finding WVU actually wants accountability. Can not always just let contracts run out when firing should have happened

good point. 

[Big Z]

The grass isn't always greener on the other side...

[Udomann]

This fan was so off the rails he was in a row boat.

Reading the comments, almost no one agreed. Just a bad take.

[DentonLurker]

What a weird dude

[MeanGreenSig]

45 minutes ago, DentonLurker said:

What a weird dude

I mean they burn coaches, so this might be average.

[NT80]

4 hours ago, untbowler said:

Wren was adverse to firing anyone while at UNT, so now he is finding WVU actually wants accountability. Can not always just let contracts run out when firing should have happened

Agree.

Wren's first rookie mistake at NT as an AD was letting Benford stay for his 5th year as men's basketball coach.   He did find a nice replacement after finally firing Benford the next year, but it should have happened sooner.  Same for keeping Seth too long.  It's like he didn't want to fire anyone under contract.

As for Wren leaving NT for WVU, I thought he would move up eventually.  But that job location is a difficult place to make fans happy.  Don't enter the Portal and take the NIL without considering the warnings!

[wardly]

24 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Agree.

Wren's first rookie mistake at NT as an AD was letting Benford stay for his 5th year as men's basketball coach.   He did find a nice replacement after finally firing Benford the next year, but it should have happened sooner.  Same for keeping Seth too long.  It's like he didn't want to fire anyone under contract.

As for Wren leaving NT for WVU, I thought he would move up eventually.  But that job location is a difficult place to make fans happy.  Don't enter the Portal and take the NIL without considering the warnings!

UNT didn't have the money to buy Benford out. If Seth had beaten UTSA the second time that season he could still be here.It's easy to fire someone when you are not the one doing it.

[Big Z]

38 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Agree.

Wren's first rookie mistake at NT as an AD was letting Benford stay for his 5th year as men's basketball coach.   He did find a nice replacement after finally firing Benford the next year, but it should have happened sooner.  Same for keeping Seth too long.  It's like he didn't want to fire anyone under contract.

As for Wren leaving NT for WVU, I thought he would move up eventually.  But that job location is a difficult place to make fans happy.  Don't enter the Portal and take the NIL without considering the warnings!

Ya that was weak on the Benford part 

 

[Mean Green 93-98]

6 hours ago, Jason Howeth said:

One deranged fan's opinion does not make a good basis for decisions.

I might add, this deranged fan is a Syracuse fan, not even a WVU fan.  No idea whether or not Wren has anything to worry about, but he certainly does not need to worry about this silly video.

[NT80]

40 minutes ago, wardly said:

UNT didn't have the money to buy Benford out. If Seth had beaten UTSA the second time that season he could still be here.It's easy to fire someone when you are not the one doing it.

Still, he didn't have to let Benford stay in charge.  An Interim coach would have done a better job, or even a Fan out of the stands.  

[wardly]

14 hours ago, NT80 said:

Still, he didn't have to let Benford stay in charge.  An Interim coach would have done a better job, or even a Fan out of the stands.  

In all reality Benford was an interim coach. He was a really nice guy but over his head.

[wardly]

3 hours ago, NT80 said:

Yes, he was a nice guy, and probably a fine assistant, but not a good head coach.  

Johnny Jones left our basketball program with 6 straight winning seasons, 18-14 his last year.  

Tony Benford went 12-20 his first year, never had a winning season (62-95 overall), and finished 8-22 his final season that Wren wouldn’t fire him.  🔥 

As I said before UNT didn't have the $500,000 needed to fire him.

[VideoEagle]

On 10/30/2024 at 8:41 PM, wardly said:

UNT didn't have the money to buy Benford out. If Seth had beaten UTSA the second time that season he could still be here.It's easy to fire someone when you are not the one doing it.

Plus McCasland was not available when Wrenn was hired. Saying we should have fired Bedford when Wrenn was means no McCasland! McCasland's time here more than made up for an extra year of Bedford. 

[MCMLXXX]

On 10/31/2024 at 3:27 PM, wardly said:

As I said before UNT didn't have the $500,000 needed to fire him.

Isn't that the exact amount we paid to buy McCasland out of his contract at Arkansas State?

[wardly]

3 hours ago, MCMLXXX said:

Isn't that the exact amount we paid to buy McCasland out of his contract at Arkansas State?

 

3 hours ago, MCMLXXX said:

Isn't that the exact amount we paid to buy McCasland out of his contract at Arkansas State?

I don't know but doubt it. We did pay one of the North Carolina schools $100,000 to buy Karen Ashton out of her contract.She stayed at UNT one year before getting the top job at Texas. Ashton was fired mainly because she couldn't get past Baylor. She has been at UTSA the last few years.

[wardly]

2 hours ago, wardly said:

 

I don't know but doubt it. We did pay one of the North Carolina schools $100,000 to buy Karen Ashton out of her contract.She stayed at UNT one year before getting the top job at Texas. Ashton was fired mainly because she couldn't get past Baylor. She has been at UTSA the last few years.

I'm pretty sure Texas reimbursed us the $100,000 which was part of her contract with us.

[MCMLXXX]

4 hours ago, wardly said:

 

I don't know but doubt it. We did pay one of the North Carolina schools $100,000 to buy Karen Ashton out of her contract.She stayed at UNT one year before getting the top job at Texas. Ashton was fired mainly because she couldn't get past Baylor. She has been at UTSA the last few years.

It was paid, that is $500,000, although we delayed it until it was absolutely necessary. 

UPDATE: Grant McCasland has now paid his buyout to Arkansas State - RedWolfReport: Arkansas State Red Wolves Football & Basketball Recruiting

[97and03]

18 hours ago, VideoEagle said:

Plus McCasland was not available when Wrenn was hired. Saying we should have fired Bedford when Wrenn was means no McCasland! McCasland's time here more than made up for an extra year of Bedford. 

I think McCasland was only at ArkSt for a year, so they got him from the lower ranks the year we should have fired Benford. So technically, he was available. 

[GreenEggs&Ham™]

And let's not forget that Wren left the DFW metroplex to live in West Virginia. Not sure why you would intentionally do that to yourself. 

[wardly]

17 hours ago, MCMLXXX said:

It was paid, that is $500,000, although we delayed it until it was absolutely necessary. 

UPDATE: Grant McCasland has now paid his buyout to Arkansas State - RedWolfReport: Arkansas State Red Wolves Football & Basketball Recruiting

Thanks for the information as it is appreciated.

[UNT 90 Grad]

It isn’t over until the UVW fan base pays for a fire Wren banner behind a plane.