Caponi not the problem

StealthEagle84 · October 13

Too often our guys are in the right position to make a play and they simply don't. For me, our defensive woes are more on the players and not the coaches. We just don't have good players on the field on defense. Plain and simple.

Marcelo · October 13

Are you drunk???

emmitt01 · October 13

7 minutes ago, StealthEagle84 said:

Too often our guys are in the right position to make a play and they simply don't. For me, our defensive woes are more on the players and not the coaches. We just don't have good players on the field on defense. Plain and simple.

If only there were someone who was paid thousands and thousands of dollars to teach proper tackling technique.

But what would you call such a person??

StealthEagle84 · October 13

2 minutes ago, Marcelo said:

Are you drunk???

Naturally. We just have no playmakers on defense. We are undersized and can't tackle. And we NEVER create turnovers. EVER.

untbowler · October 13

34 minutes ago, StealthEagle84 said:

Too often our guys are in the right position to make a play and they simply don't. For me, our defensive woes are more on the players and not the coaches. We just don't have good players on the field on defense. Plain and simple.

and who recruited these players?? The coaches, can not blame the players for poor coaching

StealthEagle84 · October 13

9 minutes ago, untbowler said:

and who recruited these players?? The coaches, can not blame the players for poor coaching

Poor recruiting and poor coaching are two different things, as you just stated. I agree that both are Caponi / Morris responsibilities. But there are factors outside of the coaches that prohibit us from getting good recruits.

Udomann · October 13

1 hour ago, StealthEagle84 said:

Too often our guys are in the right position to make a play and they simply don't. For me, our defensive woes are more on the players and not the coaches. We just don't have good players on the field on defense. Plain and simple.

This might be the worst take I've ever heard on this board. Our secondary isn't even in the same time zone as the receivers. Our tackling should be labeled as tickling. If you can't get recruits, that's on the coach.

If you are the highest paid g5 DC, you overcome those deficits. Caponi hasn't.

Edited October 13 by Udomann

Rudy · October 13

1 hour ago, StealthEagle84 said:

Naturally. We just have no playmakers on defense. We are undersized and can't tackle. And we NEVER create turnovers. EVER.

I don't think you understand how point, and counterpoint operate. You're supposed to MAKE your argument, not the other guy's.

El Paso Eagle · October 13

You know when you don't have the players with the skills to run the system you're trying to run and don't make changes to try and find something that will work you are either incompetent or..... Sorry that's it just incompetent.

Venson · October 13

12 hours ago, StealthEagle84 said:

Too often our guys are in the right position to make a play and they simply don't. For me, our defensive woes are more on the players and not the coaches. We just don't have good players on the field on defense. Plain and simple.

I can see the point you are trying to make. I saw too many times players grabbing an FAU player and they cannot get him on the ground or they get drug for another 5 yards or more. I saw too many times a player diving at an FAU players feet. I feel like the secondary would quit when the FAU QB started to scramble leaving a receiver completely uncovered instead of sticking with them. My point is Caponi cannot make the plays for them so I see your point there, but he and his staff have to do something about getting these guys to get people on the ground and stay with their coverage. It doesn't do any good to get to the ball carrier if you cannot stop them because you can't tackle. I believe the great Vince Lombardi once said "Everybody out there grabbing and nobody tackling."

StealthEagle84 · October 13

16 minutes ago, Venson said:

I can see the point you are trying to make. I saw too many times players grabbing an FAU player and they cannot get him on the ground or they get drug for another 5 yards or more. I saw too many times a player diving at an FAU players feet. I feel like the secondary would quit when the FAU QB started to scramble leaving a receiver completely uncovered instead of sticking with them. My point is Caponi cannot make the plays for them so I see your point there, but he and his staff have to do something about getting these guys to get people on the ground and stay with their coverage. It doesn't do any good to get to the ball carrier if you cannot stop them because you can't tackle. I believe the great Vince Lombardi once said "Everybody out there grabbing and nobody tackling."

My point exactly. And like you point out, it seems like every time we do make a play, our opponent somehow gets an extra yard or two out of the play when they shouldn't. We don't bring down guys at the point of attack. In a game of inches, it's even harder on our defense when what should be 3rd and long is now 3rd and 2 or 3 to go.

I will also point out that our defense played a great second half. Only points we allowed because of short fields that our offense / head coach gave them.

Wag Tag · October 13

Tackle. Size is still an issue.

Edited October 13 by Wag Tag

MrAlien · October 13

I have been saying this since last season, this team can't tackle! Players are in position to make plays, but the basic fundamentals of hitting a guy low and wrapping him up are not there. I will give Caponi some credit, very rarely does the defense seem confused, the players know their assignments and are in the position that they need to be in.

I don't know if you can fairly blame the DC for poor tackling, its the position coaches that are supposed to teach the fundamentals, and its the head coach who decides to run tackling drills in practice.

Green with Envy · October 13

By the time they get here, it’s too late. You can’t blame the DC for their inability to tackle. You probably can’t even blame their HS coach. I’d go back to middle school. It’s not taught and when they fail at tackling, there are no repercussions. People want and need instant gratification now. If the defender can knock someone down by just running into them, the Coach is OK with that because mission accomplished. Teaching technique, on a broad scale, is a rarity these days.

3_n_out · October 13

The 3-3-5 is suppose to confuse the QB and have coverage throughout the field. However, it appeared this is where their QB flourished. He exposed the middle way too often and exposed how soft our coverage was. I don’t know how many times we have to see that this garbage doesn’t work for us. That’s on coaching trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Our personnel isn’t fit for this defense, yet they continue to sneak it in. We’re the only air raid team in the conference, which this defense is supposedly best against.

3_n_out · October 13

Anyways, I can’t wait to talk about who our next DC would be next season.

emmitt01 · October 13

I love where this thread is going.

As a Police Chief, I simply cannot wait to give a press conference where I say the following:

”Ultimately, it’s not my fault. I mean, these are adult men and wonen…they should know civil rights and the law by now. Sure, you could argue that I failed to train or failed to supervise, but shouldn’t their middle school civics teacher have handled that? By the time they get to me, it’s too late. I may be the highest paid person in this agency, and yeah I hired these people, but I wrote policy to put them in the right position to succeed…they just failed to execute. I am certain my name will be removed from any and all litigation…because the buck just doesn’t stop with me.”

Wag Tag · October 13

The D is faster they hustle to the ball and there is no quit! Improvements

GoGreenBeans · October 13

Caponi is just not good. It also doesn’t help that we don’t have great playmakers on defense. But it’s obvious that Caponi’s scheme isn’t working

3_n_out · October 13

And it also seems as if they recruit a ton of DBs compared to anyone in the front seven. That has to change.

MeanGreen22 · October 13

I’d say I’d assign blame to 25% scheme, 25% players, and 50% to Cam Fancher playing out of his mind.

Glory to the Green · October 13

FAU had two weeks to game plan for us. They did a good job. We had some missed tackles, but their players ran hard.

We ran 3-3, 3-4, and 4-2 last night. I think the multiple looks will help us.

Players need to tackle, but some of our shortcomings last night appeared to be out coached.

Green Lantern · October 13

52 minutes ago, Glory to the Green said:

We ran 3-3, 3-4, and 4-2 last night. I think the multiple looks will help us.

No. That 3-3 alignment needs to be shitcanned permanently. Thought the Tech game forced that into the dumpster where it belongs. Guess not. Truly can’t believe Morris tolerates it.

Simplify like the previous 2 games with the 3-4. Adding the extra LB is the only way with our personnel.

Green with Envy · October 13

3 hours ago, 3_n_out said:

The 3-3-5 is suppose to confuse the QB and have coverage throughout the field.

Me thinks the 3-3-5 confused Caponi.

Green with Envy · October 13

2 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

I love where this thread is going.

As a Police Chief, I simply cannot wait to give a press conference where I say the following:

”Ultimately, it’s not my fault. I mean, these are adult men and wonen…they should know civil rights and the law by now. Sure, you could argue that I failed to train or failed to supervise, but shouldn’t their middle school civics teacher have handled that? By the time they get to me, it’s too late. I may be the highest paid person in this agency, and yeah I hired these people, but I wrote policy to put them in the right position to succeed…they just failed to execute. I am certain my name will be removed from any and all litigation…because the buck just doesn’t stop with me.”

You might be proving my point. It’s not your job to teach them civics. It’s your job to enforce their correct knowledge of civics. If they do not have that knowledge, you punish them, in some regard.

If our coaching staff punished everyone that couldn’t tackle, we’d be out of players. They have no choice but to deal with what they have and spend time on schemes, positioning and reads. If they can’t tackle, “we’ll do the best we can.” The coaches and this team are getting by with what they have and finding a way to make it work best they can, which is why we relish a 7-win season and a bowl loss, year after year.