Bosses are firing Gen Z workers months after hiring them

[TheColonyEagle]

So college keeps getting more and more expensive while the product they're supposed to be providing is getting worse and worse. This has to crumble eventually right?

 

 

https://fortune.com/2024/09/26/bosses-firing-gen-z-grads-months-after-hiring/

 

Three-quarters of the companies surveyed said some or all of their recent graduate hires were unsatisfactory in some way.

Gen Z grads “unprepared and unprofessional”

So, where is it going wrong for fresh-faced graduates?

Employers’ gripe with young people today is their lack of motivation or initiative—50% of the leaders surveyed cited that as the reason why things didn’t work out with their new hire.

Bosses also pointed to Gen Z being unprofessional, unorganized and having poor communication skills as their top reasons for having to sack grads.

 

 

[greenminer]

My 0.02: college can't fix bad parenting.

[TheColonyEagle]

4 hours ago, greenminer said:

My 0.02: college can't fix bad parenting.

Don’t disagree 

[Rudy]

I see it almost every shift. Parents don't know how to be parents, then call us to come correct the behavior, or because they want us to lecture the kids, or they don't know what to do, etc. And on the rare occasion that the parents are strict, the kids call 911 because "their rights are being violated"

[El Paso Eagle]

2 hours ago, Rudy said:

I see it almost every shift. Parents don't know how to be parents, then call us to come correct the behavior, or because they want us to lecture the kids, or they don't know what to do, etc. And on the rare occasion that the parents are strict, the kids call 911 because "their rights are being violated"

Teachers get the impact also. Too many "parents" never say "no" and then go after teachers if they tell them their child is not as great as they think they are and try to tell people they (the teachers) are the problems. A lot of good young teachers are leaving the profession.

[Rudy]

1 hour ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Teachers get the impact also. Too many "parents" never say "no" and then go after teachers if they tell them their child is not as great as they think they are and try to tell people they (the teachers) are the problems. A lot of good young teachers are leaving the profession.

Yep. Teachers need to be allowed to discipline their students. My elementary principal had the paddle with holes on it hanging behind his desk. The rumors about it were enough, but on the rare occasion it has to be taken down off of the wall, it's legend made it's way through the school before the end of the day. 

[El Paso Eagle]

18 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Yep. Teachers need to be allowed to discipline their students. My elementary principal had the paddle with holes on it hanging behind his desk. The rumors about it were enough, but on the rare occasion it has to be taken down off of the wall, it's legend made it's way through the school before the end of the day. 

In my junior high we had a shop teacher with a similar paddle, but of course the class full of guys everyone took it as a badge of honor to get the board at least once and trust me after that one time you never wanted it again.

[untbowler]

On 9/28/2024 at 12:07 AM, El Paso Eagle said:

In my junior high we had a shop teacher with a similar paddle, but of course the class full of guys everyone took it as a badge of honor to get the board at least once and trust me after that one time you never wanted it again.

had a music teacher in elementary school with butcher knife shaped paddle with holes. 

I got plenty of swats to set me straight

[UNTLifer]

On 9/27/2024 at 1:24 PM, greenminer said:

My 0.02: college can't fix bad parenting.

Yep and colleges have also become a breeding ground of stupidity.

[Coffee and TV]

Love that everyone on this board with the worst opinions all agree that the problem is kids don't get beaten enough. All of those beatings by my stepdad just made me yearn for the day that I was big enough to fight back. Enjoy the worst nursing homes your kids can't afford. 

[UNTLifer]

22 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

Love that everyone on this board with the worst opinions all agree that the problem is kids don't get beaten enough. All of those beatings by my stepdad just made me yearn for the day that I was big enough to fight back. Enjoy the worst nursing homes your kids can't afford. 

Still clutching those pearls. 

[Coffee and TV]

22 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Still clutching those pearls. 

Yes, that's an apt analogy for what many of you are doing in this thread: continuing the tradition of what every modern society has done by whining about how useless the youths are, very original and thought-provoking. 

Edited October 2 by Coffee and TV

[UNTLifer]

35 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

Yes, that's an apt analogy for what many of you are doing in this thread: continuing the tradition of what every modern society has done by whining about how useless the youths are, very original and thought-provoking. 

Better read my comment again.  My criticism is towards universities.

[Rudy]

3 hours ago, Coffee and TV said:

Love that everyone on this board with the worst opinions all agree that the problem is kids don't get beaten enough. All of those beatings by my stepdad just made me yearn for the day that I was big enough to fight back. Enjoy the worst nursing homes your kids can't afford. 

There is a huge difference between beatings and discipline, but you know that. 

[Coffee and TV]

2 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Better read my comment again.  My criticism is towards universities.

Yes, an even bigger, stupider blanket statement. Should probably stop spending all your money and free time worrying about your alma mater if they just keep pumping out stupid people. 

33 minutes ago, Rudy said:

There is a huge difference between beatings and discipline, but you know that. 

Tell me more. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/477508/percentage-of-serious-violent-crimes-involving-youth-in-the-us/

[Rudy]

1 hour ago, Coffee and TV said:

Yes, an even bigger, stupider blanket statement. Should probably stop spending all your money and free time worrying about your alma mater if they just keep pumping out stupid people. 

Tell me more. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/477508/percentage-of-serious-violent-crimes-involving-youth-in-the-us/

Not going to read all that, just give me the Clif Notes version 

[Coffee and TV]

17 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Not going to read all that, just give me the Clif Notes version 

bruh it's a line graph 

[Rudy]

51 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

bruh it's a line graph 

And I'm not going go through the accepting cookies bullshit. But from what I did see, I'm not seeing what it has to do with the difference between beatings your kids, and discipline. 

[Coffee and TV]

It shows that youth crime is less than half of what it was in the 80's and early 90's. Sorry I won't make your horse drink the water. 

[Rudy]

That literally has NOTHING to do with the difference between beatings your child, and discipline, but ok. Congratulations on your completely unrelated stats. 

[UNTLifer]

3 hours ago, Rudy said:

That literally has NOTHING to do with the difference between beatings your child, and discipline, but ok. Congratulations on your completely unrelated stats. 

He doesn’t get it and won’t. He only pops up around here when it is some social issue he can wave his flag at.
 

Stats are funny and easily manipulated.  The number of youths with mental issues that decide to post delusional manifestos and go shoot up people and places is 100% higher than when I was a kid. I don’t have to link some bar graph to prove it, I’ve lived it. 

 

[greenminer]

5 hours ago, Coffee and TV said:

It shows that youth crime is less than half of what it was in the 80's and early 90's. Sorry I won't make your horse drink the water. 

Divorce rates are at an all-time high, as well as teen depression and suicide, right?

This thread was originally more in the realm of behavior patterns as they relate to professional relationships and accountability. 

This has obviously struck a personal nerve with you.  But I don't think that's the leg (crime) you want to stand on here.  And I don't' think it's a good idea in this case to make assumptions involving a graph that was not intended to prove anything about home discipline.  I can think of potential things at play here, involving this decline, that have nothing to do with home discipline.

Edited October 3 by greenminer

[greenminer]

Family dinners.  Healthy convos.  lessons on responsibility, respect, and impulse control.

As opposed to, 24/7 internet access, a tablet to babysit the five year old for 6+ hours, and takeout dinner sitting on the kitchen counter, waiting to be eaten solo at your convenience.

...that is what I was referring to when I original brought up parenting.  But yeah, a big difference between physical discipline and a flat out beating.  Problem is parents out there who don't know the difference.

Edited October 3 by greenminer

[Censored by Laurie]

and in three months these same "bosses" will be complaining that "nobody wants to work anymore"...all while doing nothing to adjust pay scales or modernize work environments to a changing landscape and workforce. 

just another let's blame younger generations for our own inadequacies and failures article...from Fortune, too, of course...back of the toilet bowl reading choice of 9 out of 10 finance bro douchebags. 

[Coffee and TV]

13 hours ago, Rudy said:

That literally has NOTHING to do with the difference between beatings your child, and discipline, but ok. Congratulations on your completely unrelated stats. 

You don't find that youth violent crime being down 60-70% from its peak kind of goes against the whole "kids are undisciplined these days" narrative? I'm sure I can find a graph that shows the same thing when it comes to stuff like DUIs and DWIs, but casually dismissing it is easier, so.