Memphis, USF, UTSA, and Tulane all reject PAC-6, will remain in the AAC

[meangreenfaninno]

17 minutes ago, C Rod said:

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[C Rod]

It's getting exciting folks! Looks like AF is getting cold feet with the MWC. 

[Ken14]

Let them take the woodpeckers with them, we would be rid of their crappy fan base. 

[rockguitarist4life]

Well….I have a different opinion on this one. I think the PAC-12 would be a better conference for North Texas than the AAC.
 

Essentially, the Pac12 is “the best of” the current Mountain West teams + Washington State & Oregon State. Better brand with more recognized teams than AAC. 
 

Boise State Broncos, Washington State Cougars, Oregon State Beavers, Colorado State Rams, San Diego State Aztecs, Fresno State Bulldogs, Utah State Aggies.

 

We are grading our own homework here on this thread! lol. Y’all really think the AAC is the better conference, or just don’t want to watch games that kickoff at 9-10pm CST? 

[NT80]

Judy, Judy, Judy.....

 

Edited September 24 by NT80

[Rudy]

5 hours ago, RBP79 said:

The AFA was very worried about all the toxic masculinity exhibited in the AAC. 

Huh?

[Aquila_Viridis]

I agree with rock. We have by far the most to offer the western schools so should be able to get more than an equal share. This is a unique opportunity to leverage location and distinguish ourselves from the rabble of generally third tier southeastern schools in American. 

[MrAlien]

The PAC is shaping up to be a decent basketball conference...

However the AAC is in better media markets, and there are quite a few regional rivalries, and it makes sense for other sports.  

[NT80]

I really hope the AAC Commish is talking with both Air Force and UNLV....

Pac-12 realignment talks: UNLV (and Air Force) reconsiders decision amid chaotic day, per report

"A later report from Thamel stated Air Force may not be locked into the Mountain West either. They are expected to be in contact with UNLV and the two programs may wind up making their decision together. Both wanted eight teams to be in the MWC but Utah State’s decision changed things.

“Source: Expect Air Force and UNLV to be in close contact about the future,” Thamel said via X. “Air Force and UNLV were both lock step when they signed MOUs to commit to the Mountain West today. With those not valid because all eight schools didn’t commit, expect UNLV and AFA to be in close touch.”

https://www.on3.com/news/pac-12-realignment-talks-unlv-reconsiders-decision-amid-chaotic-day-per-report/

 

[97and03]

12 hours ago, Matt said:

I believe every school in the conference is tweeting a version of this out. 

 

If so, that’s a much better optic. 

 

12 hours ago, RBP79 said:

Ehhhh...Im not convinced UTSA had anymore of a conversation with PAC6 than NT did. Did I miss the announcement?

Obviously we don’t know who talked to who about what. But the national perception was that UTSA was a candidate and we were not. And that’s a pathetic indictment of our athletic program. That’s why I reacted strongly to our “commitment” post. Saying we were committed to the conference without any (perception of) another option would be silly.

[Old Denton]

2nd best of all possible outcomes.  Best would have been UTSA going to the PAC by themselves, we wish them well and replace with Tx St.

[THOR]

12 hours ago, rockguitarist4life said:

Well….I have a different opinion on this one. I think the PAC-12 would be a better conference for North Texas than the AAC.
 

Essentially, the Pac12 is “the best of” the current Mountain West teams + Washington State & Oregon State. Better brand with more recognized teams than AAC. 
 

Boise State Broncos, Washington State Cougars, Oregon State Beavers, Colorado State Rams, San Diego State Aztecs, Fresno State Bulldogs, Utah State Aggies.

 

We are grading our own homework here on this thread! lol. Y’all really think the AAC is the better conference, or just don’t want to watch games that kickoff at 9-10pm CST? 

but there is no state in north texas anymore....wouldn't be accepted to that conference.

[MeanGreen22]

11 hours ago, MrAlien said:

The PAC is shaping up to be a decent basketball conference...

However the AAC is in better media markets, and there are quite a few regional rivalries, and it makes sense for other sports.  

Speaking of basketball, I saw a Tulane fan account on twitter say the AAC is a terrible basketball conference. The arrogance of these "top" schools is wild to see. Buddy, maybe it would be better if y'all could manage more than 5 wins in conference play.

[RBP79]

12 hours ago, Rudy said:

Huh?

AFA is into DEI more so than other service academies. 

[keith]

21 hours ago, Harry said:

Keeping Tulane, Memphis and USF in the AAC was a big win for our new commissioner Tim Pernetti.   I don't include UTSA because they were never officially invited.  

 

Whether UTSA was invited or not the one thing for certain is they won the PR battle hands down and has been able to elevate the perception (warranted or not) of its football program, its athletic department and school across the sporting world.  They are running circles around UNT leadership who seem to just be sitting on their thumbs.  SMH.

[Rudy]

3 hours ago, RBP79 said:

AFA is into DEI more so than other service academies. 

Then they'll love our NT Dancers.....

[UNTLifer]

38 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Then they'll love our NT Dancers.....

[NT80]

The PAC is looking everywhere for members....

 

 

[DeepGreen]

UConn to essentially a West Coast conference.  That makes perfect sense.

[TheColonyEagle]

13 hours ago, NT80 said:

The PAC is looking everywhere for members....

 

 

[UNTLifer]

17 hours ago, NT80 said:

The PAC is looking everywhere for members....

 

 

Nothing says Pacific Ocean/Time Zone like Connecticut.  Harkens back to all the Elvis, Frankie Avalon and Annette Funicello movies.

[wardly]

So west coast pod cast team today said one reason that the AAC 4 didn't move to PAC, besides travel expenses, is the PAC only offered to pay about $5 million of their exit fees. Evidently WSU and OSU were at the bottom of the PAC 12 tv viewer list which is why they were left behind. The PAC 6's media consultants told the PAC that Memphis viewership was less than WSU and OSU and about the same as Utah State. Therefore the PAC 6 decided the AAC 4 wasn't worth more buyout money. In addition the AAC 4's consultants said that the $10 to $ 15million per team media payout was bogus, and that their recent additions just created another MWC worth about the same as the one that's falling apart, which is in the $4 to $7 million range. The bottom line is that all the new PAC has is its name, but with the new teams it has little if any value. The fact that it is reported that the new PAC has reached out to U Conn for football only is a sign of desperate tomes.None of this is my personal opinion, just passing it along.

[wardly]

2 minutes ago, wardly said:

times

 

2 minutes ago, wardly said:

So west coast pod cast team today said one reason that the AAC 4 didn't move to PAC, besides travel expenses, is the PAC only offered to pay about $5 million of their exit fees. Evidently WSU and OSU were at the bottom of the PAC 12 tv viewer list which is why they were left behind. The PAC 6's media consultants told the PAC that Memphis viewership was less than WSU and OSU and about the same as Utah State. Therefore the PAC 6 decided the AAC 4 wasn't worth more buyout money. In addition the AAC 4's consultants said that the $10 to $ 15million per team media payout was bogus, and that their recent additions just created another MWC worth about the same as the one that's falling apart, which is in the $4 to $7 million range. The bottom line is that all the new PAC has is its name, but with the new teams it has little if any value. The fact that it is reported that the new PAC has reached out to U Conn for football only is a sign of desperate tomes.None of this is my personal opinion, just passing it along.

 

[VideoEagle]

35 minutes ago, wardly said:

None of this is my personal opinion, just passing it along.

Thanks for passing it along! It's very good information which makes what's explains a lot of what's happening.  

[TIgreen01]

22 hours ago, keith said:

Whether UTSA was invited or not the one thing for certain is they won the PR battle hands down and has been able to elevate the perception (warranted or not) of its football program, its athletic department and school across the sporting world.  They are running circles around UNT leadership who seem to just be sitting on their thumbs.  SMH.

I haven't read every piece of news, but my perception was that UTSA was mentioned only after Traylor started publicly making claims that they were in talks with the PAC.  From everything that has been reported, the PAC never actually invited UTSA.  They may have had the same "talks" that we had...a polite answering the call and turning them down.  Those who know for sure aren't saying.  What I do know is that the more credible sources only reported that the 3 (Memphis, Tulane and USF) schools turned down the PAC.  I think the AAC was forced to put UTSA on their "Committed" graphic only b/c Traylor had been spouting off publicly, and not b/c they had turned down an invite.  Read the UTSA AD's statement carefully.

Traylor is increasingly turning into a side show for UTSA....especially with them looking to have a very down year this year.  A few years ago, right on the heels of him winning CUSA and signing a 10 year contract, the students voted down a measure to increase athletics fees.  Next he loses all of his NFL receivers to graduation and NIL/transfer thievery and proceeds to lose it publicly.  I think he's finding that the money in UTSA isn't enough to sustain the early success he had and he's going off and doing things on his own.  It could work out great....but it could end badly (DD's exit here comes to mind) if he can't get the team back to their previous winning ways.

Edited September 25 by TIgreen01