Memphis, USF, UTSA, and Tulane all reject PAC-6, will remain in the AAC

NT80 · September 23

Sorry Admins...this needs to be on the Football forum!

Great news for us to stay the top G5 conference....

Edited September 23 by NT80

untjim1995 · September 23

6 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Sorry Admins...this needs to be on the Football forum!

Great news for us to stay the top G5 conference....

This really isn’t that surprising to me. These AAC teams have a bird in hand, so to speak. Travel is mostly regional and within one time zone of each other. The PAC can add in UNLV, Utah State, and maybe even New Mexico and Nevada, too. It’d be a solid regional league out west, dropping off dead weight from the MWC and adding in the two left behinds in OSU and WSU.

NT80 · September 23

NT80 · September 23

22 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

This really isn’t that surprising to me. These AAC teams have a bird in hand, so to speak. Travel is mostly regional and within one time zone of each other. The PAC can add in UNLV, Utah State, and maybe even New Mexico and Nevada, too. It’d be a solid regional league out west, dropping off dead weight from the MWC and adding in the two left behinds in OSU and WSU.

Harry · September 23

Keeping Tulane, Memphis and USF in the AAC was a big win for our new commissioner Tim Pernetti. I don't include UTSA because they were never officially invited.

Wag Tag · September 23

PAC invites UNT ? What do we do? You know we will lose schools to the ACC.

NT80 · September 23

Memphis, Tulane, USF, UTSA commit to AAC amid Pac-12 interest

"Some of the highest profile targets of the Pac-12's expansion have rebuffed their interest, as Memphis, Tulane, USF and UTSA all publicly committed to stay in the American Athletic Conference on Monday afternoon.

The schools announced their intentions on social media, which solidifies the AAC in the short term and leaves the six-team Pac-12 in flux as it searches for at least two more members to complete it's rebuild."

"...But the reality is that a significant financial risk loomed if any of them decided to join the Pac-12. AAC Commissioner Tim Pernetti has been aggressive in attempting to leverage private equity money to help boost cash flow in the league."

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/41403363/memphis-tulane-usf-utsa-commit-aac-amid-pac-12-interest

Edited September 23 by NT80

MDH · September 23

hey PAC, you up?

RBP79 · September 23

The AFA was very worried about all the toxic masculinity exhibited in the AAC.

TheColonyEagle · September 23

So all they are is a name.....I don't see the allure of joining the "PAC" conference. Are the going to have more TV revenue than the AAC has? why would they? Oregon State and Boise St have a lot of eyeballs on TV at 10:00pm CST? That was always a big complaint of the REAL Pac 12 teams that left.

Is this new conference gonna have pictures of USC, Oregon and UCLA in their pitch deck to TV execs? They're no longer there. It's a PAC name with MWC teams.

Why would anyone pay $27 million in exit fees and increase their travel expenses to go join that league that doesn't even have a revenue model yet?

Maybe someone smarter than me can explain this conference's sales pitch to potential new members...If the pitch is "USC used to be here." There's not much of a pitch.....

Edited September 23 by TheColonyEagle

rcade · September 23

16 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

Maybe someone smarter than me can explain this conference's sales pitch to potential new members...If the pitch is "USC used to be here." There's not much of a pitch.....

The pitch is slightly more TV money than the existing G5 conferences and whatever the PAC-2 is willing to share from the enormous pile of money the departing schools left behind.

Personally that's not enough for me to want UNT to join.

But I can't say I'm thrilled that UTSA got invited to the "We Reject the PAC-12" party and we didn't.

El Paso Eagle · September 23

1 hour ago, NT80 said:

Translated into reality speak -- The MWC is going to give us a BIG check!

97and03 · September 23

We kind of embarrassed ourselves with this:

Gives the impression we had a choice to make…

cousin oliver · September 23

22 minutes ago, 97and03 said:

We kind of embarrassed ourselves with this:

Gives the impression we had a choice to make…

How do you know we didn’t?

Matt · September 23

25 minutes ago, 97and03 said:

We kind of embarrassed ourselves with this:

Gives the impression we had a choice to make…

I believe every school in the conference is tweeting a version of this out.

Edited September 23 by Matt

RBP79 · September 23

Ehhhh...Im not convinced UTSA had anymore of a conversation with PAC6 than NT did. Did I miss the announcement?

UNTLifer · September 23

2 hours ago, Wag Tag said:

PAC invites UNT ? What do we do? You know we will lose schools to the ACC.

No, let the PAC die.

Edited September 23 by UNTLifer

Wag Tag · September 23

Now would be the time to do a joint conference with the MWC leftovers. Do divisions and have the MWC schools take the place of out of conference games.

TheColonyEagle · September 23

1 hour ago, 97and03 said:

We kind of embarrassed ourselves with this:

Gives the impression we had a choice to make…

We had the same choice UTSA did.

NT93 · September 23

1 hour ago, rcade said:

But I can't say I'm thrilled that UTSA got invited to the "We Reject the PAC-12" party and we didn't.

No kidding. Being seen as inferior to nUTSAk is a kick to the nutsack.

VideoEagle · September 24

2 hours ago, rcade said:

The pitch is slightly more TV money than the existing G5 conferences

No, the pitch was the POTENTIAL for slightly more TV money based on what "media experts" claimed the new PAC-X would be worth. The PAC broke up because "media experts" claimed the old PAC-12-2 could get more media money than the Big XII and it turned out to be significantly less. The Apple/Prime deal for the old PAC-12-2 was around $20 million but included lots of bonuses for "increased subscribers for Apple and Prime." The current experts claimed $15 million for a new State Six plus a mystery two. I never thought that group was really worth 3/4 of value of the PAC-12-2. Oregon, Washington, the 4 corner schools, Cal, and Stanford are worth a lot more in media than anything the PAC-X can cobble together! I wish I could find the analysis again, but I was reading last spring about Boise being on a slow but steady five year drop in ratings. Is San Diego State strong enough to be the media draw to out earn every other G5 conference? If they were, why wasn't the the MWC able to take advantage of that!

akriesman · September 24

Only Memphis is worthy of a conference upgrade IMO (maybe South Florida).

Tulane has little historical success, other than the last 2 FB seasons.

The UTSA Frank Harris's were good for the 5 years he was there.

NT80 · September 24

Sources: Utah St. set to become 7th member of rebuilding Pac-12

"Utah State is set to agree to a deal to become the seventh member of the newly formed Pac-12, sources told ESPN.

The move comes amid a dizzying day of realignment, which saw the Pac-12's interest in a handful of AAC schools get rebuffed and the Mountain West expected to retain commitments from key members UNLV and Air Force.

The offer to Utah State and the expected acceptance in the near future means that they'd be the fifth school from the Mountain West to join Oregon State and Washington State in the newly formatted Pac-12. They join Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State and Colorado State, who have announced they are going to the league."...

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/41406647/sources-utah-st-set-become-7th-member-rebuilding-pac-12

C Rod · September 24

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DentonLurker · September 24

I feel like the AAC is in a good spot to be very intentional about who they go after. I could see some hybrid of schools from the SBC and the MWC making a lot of sense, at this point.