Memphis, Tulane, USF Turn Down 2PAC....Staying in AAC

Green Otaku · September 25

3 minutes ago, NT80 said:

PAC is trying to find some cheap add-ons to finish their football membership. Maybe adding Gonzaga is bait for UConn basketball later? It's all probably an attempt to put pressure on UNLV to commit.

I don't think Gonzaga does much for them, over half of the BE is equal to Gonzaga IMO. Plus I'd imagine their fanbase is heavily on the east coast, and going west would be a huge deal for them.

EAGLE83 · September 25

Hawaii is a football only member. They need members for Basketball tournament invite.

NT80 · September 25

Some still wanting to see a merged ending.

Doubt it happens now with court and lots of $$ involved...

Green Otaku · September 25

Doubt that happens as well too, there seems to be a lot of bad blood now. Also whomever stays in the MWC has incentive to do so to collect some big checks from departing schools.

NM Green · September 25

Assuming UNLV eventually goes. That leaves the MWC at what 6 members

Reno

New Mexico

San Jose State

Air Force

Wyoming

Hawaii

I would add:

UTEP

could they get Texas State Sam Houston or La Tech? That would give them 10 with their base in the mountains and tentacles into Texas, California and the Islands.

GMG

VideoEagle · September 25

28 minutes ago, NM Green said:

Assuming UNLV eventually goes.

I wouldn't say that's a certainty yet. They signed the MOU to stay which was invalidated by USU leaving. And now that its coming out that real media deal is NOT $12 to $15 a school but only a slight step up - if that - from the current MWC deal I would think they would have to think long and hard about giving up the huge windfall the MWC will get from the departing schools.

Jonnyeagle · September 25

17 hours ago, NT80 said:

Some still wanting to see a merged ending.

Doubt it happens now with court and lots of $$ involved...

U do realize these guys are in full lawsuit modal now???

NT80 · September 26

5 hours ago, Jonnyeagle said:

U do realize these guys are in full lawsuit modal now???

If the PAC media deal is closer to MWC money then some of the newbies could claim bait and switch. It may take a while to get all lawsuits settled and legit media deals offered. It's all about the $$$.

El Paso Eagle · September 26

Looks like Air Force and UNLV have made the commitment to stay in the mountain west

C Rod · September 26

MeanGreenGlory · September 26

I was on board with the AAC going after Air Force and even UNLV. But since they’re staying put, the AAC doesn’t gain much if anything by adding Texas State. Hold tight and bolster funds for when the MWC and ACC media deals/GORs expire and make more strategic moves then with programs that have a longer history of success.

This plan backfired for the PAC. If the PAC is essentially the MWC, but leaves behind Air Force and UNLV and brings in Texas State or UTEP with an unknown media deal…did they actually improve their environment? I think not.

El Paso Eagle · September 26

45 minutes ago, MeanGreenGlory said:

I was on board with the AAC going after Air Force and even UNLV. But since they’re staying put, the AAC doesn’t gain much if anything by adding Texas State. Hold tight and bolster funds for when the MWC and ACC media deals/GORs expire and make more strategic moves then with programs that have a longer history of success.

This plan backfired for the PAC. If the PAC is essentially the MWC, but leaves behind Air Force and UNLV and brings in Texas State or UTEP with an unknown media deal…did they actually improve their environment? I think not.

Going after Texas State (which I would be good with) could be a target to block the PAC from Texas

Green Otaku · September 26

What's Texas St.'s budget? The only report I could find was $37m. I'd think that travel would be a huge drag on the program, especially being on an island.

NM Green · September 26

San Antonio has to be biting his lip and by him I mean Jeff. You know utsa deep down wanted the pac. If Texas state gets an invite, there will be some squirming in the corridors down south. That would put Texas state on equal footing with the Runners.

I vote to hold off on Texas State for the AAC because they are too close to SAT. I’d rather hit a new market or stronger longer sustained program.

GMG

DeepGreen · September 26

2 hours ago, Green Otaku said:

What's Texas St.'s budget? The only report I could find was $37m. I'd think that travel would be a huge drag on the program, especially being on an island.

Who cares about Texas State? I don't. Let them stay put, or join CUSA. They can have fun with La Tech each year.

Green Otaku · September 26

41 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:

Who cares about Texas State? I don't. Let them stay put, or join CUSA. They can have fun with La Tech each year.

Agree, there is no need to expand right now with AFA out of the picture. I don't think the AAC should do a defensive move to block the PAC, let them go if they want. In the future JMU. App St., or VCU as a non-football make more sense to me.

Billy Clyde · September 27

If everyone else leaves, maybe we’ll be able to win some games?

Mean Green 93-98 · September 27

How AAC held on to four schools

Tim Pernetti had been through it before and knew what to expect.

The first-year American Athletic Conference commissioner pulled off a major coup earlier this week when his conference held on to Memphis, South Florida, Tulane and UTSA despite Pac-12 overtures that became very public.

It's obviously uncomfortable when another conference has eyes on your prized schools. The AAC has been on the receiving end of that dilemma multiple times. In just the last two years, the AAC lost Central Florida, Cincinnati, Houston and SMU to Power Fove conferences.

How'd Pernetti hold off the Pac-12?

It started with using his experience guiding Rutgers to the Big Ten as the school's athletic director to lay out to his conference exactly what would happen behind the scenes during the process. Pernetti, who probably deserves a statue for maneuvering Rutgers well above its weight class into the Big Ten, had the real-life experience to accurately presage what was to come once it became clear the Pac-12 would look eastward after grabbing Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State and San Diego State from the Mountain West.

Pernetti was candid, stressed the Pac-12's projected TV rights numbers weren't anywhere close to concrete and earned trust in the room for his direct approach, according to multiple sources. How a conference commissioner handles a high-stress situation – and whether the conference members still have faith in the leadership – can have a major impact on realignment decisions. Just look at what happened to the Pac-12 more than a year ago for proof.

In the end, Pernetti, who is aggressively trying to position the AAC moving forward, passed the test. Four in-demand schools decided they'd rather stick with what they knew than leave for promises of greener pastures out west.

"I'd never bet against Tim," said one industry source familiar with the situation. "He's a very talented, smart guy."

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/insider-notebook-alabama-georgia-mega-preview-what-mack-browns-telling-recruits-how-aac-rebuffed-pac-12/

NT80 · September 27

On 9/26/2024 at 1:24 PM, DeepGreen said:

Who cares about Texas State? I don't. Let them stay put, or join CUSA. They can have fun with La Tech each year.

Many on the Texas State forum are turning their noses up at the AAC anyway. They seem to prefer PAC or MWC, something different from us and UtSa.

NT80 · September 27

13 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

How AAC held on to four schools

Tim Pernetti had been through it before and knew what to expect.

The first-year American Athletic Conference commissioner pulled off a major coup earlier this week when his conference held on to Memphis, South Florida, Tulane and UTSA despite Pac-12 overtures that became very public.

It's obviously uncomfortable when another conference has eyes on your prized schools. The AAC has been on the receiving end of that dilemma multiple times. In just the last two years, the AAC lost Central Florida, Cincinnati, Houston and SMU to Power Fove conferences.

How'd Pernetti hold off the Pac-12?

It started with using his experience guiding Rutgers to the Big Ten as the school's athletic director to lay out to his conference exactly what would happen behind the scenes during the process. Pernetti, who probably deserves a statue for maneuvering Rutgers well above its weight class into the Big Ten, had the real-life experience to accurately presage what was to come once it became clear the Pac-12 would look eastward after grabbing Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State and San Diego State from the Mountain West.

Pernetti was candid, stressed the Pac-12's projected TV rights numbers weren't anywhere close to concrete and earned trust in the room for his direct approach, according to multiple sources. How a conference commissioner handles a high-stress situation – and whether the conference members still have faith in the leadership – can have a major impact on realignment decisions. Just look at what happened to the Pac-12 more than a year ago for proof.

In the end, Pernetti, who is aggressively trying to position the AAC moving forward, passed the test. Four in-demand schools decided they'd rather stick with what they knew than leave for promises of greener pastures out west.

"I'd never bet against Tim," said one industry source familiar with the situation. "He's a very talented, smart guy."

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/insider-notebook-alabama-georgia-mega-preview-what-mack-browns-telling-recruits-how-aac-rebuffed-pac-12/