2025 DC Wish List

Tommy Gadberry · November 18

This new guy HAS to have Texas recruiting ties! The last one did not and could not identify and recruit talent either.

Glory to the Green · November 18

24 minutes ago, Tommy Gadberry said:

This new guy HAS to have Texas recruiting ties!

I don’t think this as important as it was a few years ago. If the guy can coach, the players will come.

Big Z · November 18

8 minutes ago, Glory to the Green said:

I don’t think this as important as it was a few years ago. If the guy can coach, the players will come.

Agree

It's all about the Benjamins now

UNTLifer · November 18

23 hours ago, Green with Envy said:

And easy with those comparisons. Kiffin was fired from the Raiders and had several college stops before FAU. Coker was out of the game for a number of years before starting up UTSA. Deion was a publicity hire that just happened to have worked out.

Just stop it with the facts and stuff.

UNTLifer · November 18

18 hours ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

After doing a little research, it is my opinion that Benedetto needs to get the job.

The dude runs a 4-2-5, and this season his defense has not given up more than 28 points in any game. That includes NIU's 16-14 win over Notre Dame, and NIU's 24-17 loss to NC State. Benedetto's defense is only giving up an average of 284.4 yard per game and 18.5 points.

for comparison, if UNT's defense didn't allow more than 28 points in any game this season, the Mean Green would be 7-3 right now. And that's with Morris' questionable discissions like passing up points, onside kicks after the first drive of the game, and not having a jumbo package in goal line situations.

I would be good with that. His current reported salary is around $135,000 so money wouldn't be an issue.

SilverEagle · November 18

We need to find the Patrick Cobbs of DC's. How impressive is a coach who is down to his third or fourth string RB and coaches/develops him to get 192 yards against UTSA.,,,,,with a bum shoulder.

BBA1989 · November 18

On 9/14/2024 at 8:40 PM, All About UNT said:

I know the perfect guy...and he is available on the cheap.

No to Chris Cosh

UNTLifer · November 18

14 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

We need to find the Patrick Cobbs of DC's. How impressive is a coach who is down to his third or fourth string RB and coaches/develops him to get 192 yards against UTSA.,,,,,with a bum shoulder.

I want coaches that understand UNT and want to be here. Not recommending for the DC position, but people like Chris Hurd (special teams at Illinois) and Marcus Trice (DB's/Defensive recruiting coordinator at SFA) need to be here.

Green Otaku · November 18

2 hours ago, Glory to the Green said:

I don’t think this as important as it was a few years ago. If the guy can coach, the players will come.

It never has been. The vast majority of coaches here going back several staffs have had ties and it has never gotten us players outside of our normal level. Posters here put way too much emphasis on this.

Glory to the Green · November 18

28 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

want coaches that understand UNT and want to be here.

I want them excited to be here, too. A guy with a few skins on the wall…a guy that can push back on EM’s desire to always go for it on 4th down….or to encourage to take the 3 points.

I think a stronger DC immediately makes our defense and our offense better.

Think we hire a firm to conduct the search?

UNTLifer · November 18

27 minutes ago, Glory to the Green said:

Think we hire a firm to conduct the search?

Hope not. They tend to be a waste of money. If they do go that route, I hope they pick UNTLifer LLC.

SilverEagle · November 18

2 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Hope not. They tend to be a waste of money. If they do go that route, I hope they pick UNTLifer LLC.

....and ably assisted by the SilverEagle/Firefightenrick consortium.

SilverEagle · November 18

1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

I want coaches that understand UNT and want to be here. Not recommending for the DC position, but people like Chris Hurd (special teams at Illinois) and Marcus Trice (DB's/Defensive recruiting coordinator at SFA) need to be here.

Totally agree. I remember when it was announced that Corkey Nelson was hired. Since he had previously been the DL coach under Rod Rust my first response was "well at least he knows what he's getting himself into".

jtm0097 · November 18

My criteria for DC.

1. Runs a 4 man front

2. Has been a success DC at the FBS or FCS Level

3. Texas Ties (coached in state at some point)

4. Recruits transfer portal and JUCOs

untbowler · November 18

9 minutes ago, jtm0097 said:

My criteria for DC.

1. Runs a 4 man front

2. Has been a success DC at the FBS or FCS Level

3. Texas Ties (coached in state at some point)

4. Recruits transfer portal and JUCOs

There is a certain coach in the Piney Woods that fits that criteria and has wanted to be at UNT for years.

greenminer · November 18

22 hours ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

The funny thing with that is, after we fired the DC from Southlake and brought in an experienced college DC . . . our defense actually got worse.

Yep, with a guy who, by previous tenure in Denton, is a legend.

Sometimes bad coaches succeed, and a good one fails. College football is weird.

Green Otaku · November 18

Is Colby Carthel a no-brainer? Also would he give up his HC job for a coordinator role?

Stix · November 18

3 hours ago, SilverEagle said:

....and ably assisted by the SilverEagle/Firefightenrick consortium.

... who would make sure we wouldn't be out-coached.

Shark84 · November 18

52 minutes ago, Green Otaku said:

Is Colby Carthel a no-brainer? Also would he give up his HC job for a coordinator role?

Do his teams have a record of having great defenses? I don't know much about him. No Power 5 experience as an assistant worries me a little. Fits with his Texas roots.

97and03 · November 18

2 hours ago, jtm0097 said:

My criteria for DC.

1. Runs a 4 man front

2. Has been a success DC at the FBS or FCS Level

3. Texas Ties (coached in state at some point)

4. Recruits transfer portal and JUCOs

Agree with 2-4.
Don’t particularly care which system they run as long as it fits the personnel available and can confuse the opponent. I think a four man front isn’t a panacea. Generally we have trouble with DL depth, especially with any size. Probably easier to recruits quality LBs, which means a 3-4.

I wonder if Charlie Strong still has the desire to coach. I don’t think he was coaching this season. Definitely a proven DC.

Edited November 18 by 97and03

MeanGreenGlory · November 18

On 11/16/2024 at 8:22 PM, MeanGreenGlory said:

What's the appeal of Carthel?

Honest question. I don't follow FCS closely, but it seems like every time a position opens up at UNT people on the board want Carthel to fill it.

I see he won the NCAA Division II championship in 2017 and has an overall record of 89–48 which are both impressive. However, his run at SFA from a W/L perspective looks similar to Seth's at UNT in that he built up the program in a few years, but he seems to be plateauing over the past few years.

I'd love to hear more about what the advocates see in him and why he'd be a good fit for UNT specifically.

Bumping because his name keeps getting thrown into the hat.

Can someone please explain the appeal of Carthel for DC and exclude any “coach in waiting” argument?

jtm0097 · November 18

1 hour ago, 97and03 said:

Agree with 2-4.
Don’t particularly care which system they run as long as it fits the personnel available and can confuse the opponent. I think a four man front isn’t a panacea. Generally we have trouble with DL depth, especially with any size. Probably easier to recruits quality LBs, which means a 3-4.

Fair enough, even if the new DC mixes in 4 man front looks more, I would be happy with that. Hell I liked Refferts 3-3-5 that had the OLB on the line rushing the passer. That was effective for us.

greenminer · November 18

42 minutes ago, MeanGreenGlory said:

Bumping because his name keeps getting thrown into the hat.

Can someone please explain the appeal of Carthel for DC and exclude any “coach in waiting” argument?

His name glowed while he was at A&M Commerce because 1) He was doing well there, and 2) there was a rumor tossed around that he dreamed of coaching at UNT.

He's not doing so hot at SFA right now. I think people need to factor that in and reconsider.

El Paso Eagle · November 19

1 hour ago, greenminer said:

His name glowed while he was at A&M Commerce because 1) He was doing well there, and 2) there was a rumor tossed around that he dreamed of coaching at UNT.

He's not doing so hot at SFA right now. I think people need to factor that in and reconsider.

Before you jump on that take a look at how many players and coaches he has lost the last several season and you still putting competitive teams on the field. One thing I like about him so much is that he does deal with losing players constantly and still produces quality teams.

TalonsUp · November 19

48 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Before you jump on that take a look at how many players and coaches he has lost the last several season and you still putting competitive teams on the field. One thing I like about him so much is that he does deal with losing players constantly and still produces quality teams.

Carthel was the best choice when we hired EM.
Let’s look at the D2 playoff teams and the FCS playoff teams. I want a talented guy that wants to move up, can recruit and work the portal with limited or no NIL