2025 DC Wish List

[GMG_Dallas]

  On 10/27/2024 at 1:31 AM, 3_n_out said:

Question is, would a DC for a G5 program be more attractive than being a HC for a D-II program? I wonder how much he makes at SFA?

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He makes about $260k at SFA, $215k less than Caponi.

I think the G5 DC spot is more attractive. It would put a bigger spotlight on him. I'd imagine G5 coordinator to G5 HC is more common than D2 HC to G5 HC. It could also get him a spot as a P4 coordinator but he's not making a D2 to P4 jump without first going G5. Just needs to get a foot in the FBS world as a DC to open more doors.

Edit to direct the D2 stuff. He's an FCS HC, not D2. I think the point still stands. 

Edited October 27, 2024 by GMG_Dallas

[jtm0097]

Caponi has been fired. What a terrible experiment this was.

[El Paso Eagle]

Must be an experienced DC or head coach from lower division. Hopefully Morris will have enough confidence in himself to hire an experienced coach and let him run that side of the ball. My personal choice will continue to be Carthel.

My fear is Morris goes with a young inexperienced coach. I hope Mosley puts his foot down on this hire.

[MeanGreenFan94]

I would like to follow the Indiana model of recent success with Cignetti from James Madison. Hire a successful DC that has a winning environment and bring a bunch of his defense with him. 

[Glory to the Green]

This is from Dave Campbell’s I struggled to insert the link.

Edited November 16, 2024 by Glory to the Green

[jtm0097]

  On 11/16/2024 at 9:43 PM, MeanGreenFan94 said:

I would like to follow the Indiana model of recent success with Cignetti from James Madison. Hire a successful DC that has a winning environment and bring a bunch of his defense with him. 

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SFA DC or HC would work for me. That SFA defense had some studs on it.

 

[3_n_out]

This is a major hire for the program. No more giving GA’s their first opportunity as position coaches. We need a lead dog in the pack since we’re just chasing our tails. 

[Glory to the Green]

  On 11/16/2024 at 11:11 PM, 3_n_out said:

This is a major hire for the program. No more giving GA’s their first opportunity as position coaches. We need a lead dog in the pack since we’re just chasing our tails. 

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[UNTLifer]

  On 11/16/2024 at 9:58 PM, Glory to the Green said:

This is from Dave Campbell’s I struggled to insert the link.

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Are they just pulling names out of thin air?  What’s the connection?

Air Force has given up loads of points this year.   Southern MS gives up 30+ points a game. 
Cassity and Hemphill are intriguing but would they leave their current situations?  Would Carthel leave a HC position for a DC position?

Edited November 17, 2024 by UNTLifer

[El Paso Eagle]

  On 11/17/2024 at 12:05 AM, UNTLifer said:

Would Carthel leave a HC position for a DC position?

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Maybe, if he wants to be an HC at the FBS level, he might see this as an opportunity to get that chance over his current situation.

[Hunter Green]

  On 9/15/2024 at 1:33 AM, MeanGreenTexan said:

This should have been the call last year.   I wonder if anyone reached out.    Being the "highest paid G5 coordinator" should be a reason to consider leaving Nac.

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Not to mention sliding into the HC position when the time comes.

[jtm0097]

  On 11/17/2024 at 12:05 AM, UNTLifer said:

Are they just pulling names out of thin air?  What’s the connection?

Air Force has given up loads of points this year.   Southern MS gives up 30+ points a game. 
Cassity and Hemphill are intriguing but would they leave their current situations?  Would Carthel leave a HC position for a DC position?

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It's Mike Craven's list. He could give a shit less about us. Probably just looking at DCs that are going to be on the market soon.

Edited November 17, 2024 by jtm0097

[3_n_out]

  On 11/17/2024 at 12:05 AM, UNTLifer said:

Are they just pulling names out of thin air?  What’s the connection?

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This is my worry of having a younger HC running the show. Do they have the contacts and connections to be able to hire experienced coaches? And, will these experienced potential DCs believe in EM and his style knowing they potentially could be hung out to dry with all the aggressive nature of Morris’s playcalling? Also, will they realize EM could be on the hot seat, so their time could be limited? Lots of things to unpack going to a school constantly underperforming year after year. 

[Side.Show.Joe]

Let's go totally gangsta, and make a statement with this hire. Let's send notice that North Texas will not tolerate losing to the likes of UTSA. I think we could get this guy as our next DC..............

Jess Loepp

 

https://goutsa.com/sports/football/roster/season/2024/staff/jess-loepp

 

He is currently in his 3rd season as the Runners Defensive Coordinator. And, UTSA doesn't have enough money to stop us from taking him.

[Glory to the Green]

  On 11/17/2024 at 12:05 AM, UNTLifer said:

Are they just pulling names out of thin air?  What’s the connection?

Air Force has given up loads of points this year.   Southern MS gives up 30+ points a game. 
Cassity and Hemphill are intriguing but would they leave their current situations?  Would Carthel leave a HC position for a DC position?

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Here’s the article. Not much info.  
 

https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2024/11/16/breaking-north-texas-fires-defensive-coordinator-matt-caponi?ref=article_preview_title

[Glory to the Green]

  On 11/17/2024 at 2:02 AM, jtm0097 said:

It's Mike Craven's list. He could give a shit less about us. Probably just looking at DCs that are going to be on the market soon.

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Ha!  There should be a segment on the Sundays ROF podcast that discusses potential hires. We’ll see if they go into details of the names. 

[MeanGreen22]

  On 11/17/2024 at 1:47 AM, El Paso Eagle said:

Maybe, if he wants to be an HC at the FBS level, he might see this as an opportunity to get that chance over his current situation.

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Could get a hefty raise and be “HC in waiting”. It’s worth the call. 

[Mean Green 93-98]

  On 11/17/2024 at 3:07 AM, MeanGreen22 said:

Could get a hefty raise and be “HC in waiting”. It’s worth the call. 

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That would be a little unorthodox when the current HC is still in his 30s.

[MeanGreenGlory]

What's the appeal of Carthel? 

Honest question. I don't follow FCS closely, but it seems like every time a position opens up at UNT people on the board want Carthel to fill it.

I see he won the NCAA Division II championship in 2017 and has an overall record of 89–48 which are both impressive. However, his run at SFA from a W/L perspective looks similar to Seth's at UNT in that he built up the program in a few years, but he seems to be plateauing over the past few years.

I'd love to hear more about what the advocates see in him and why he'd be a good fit for UNT specifically. 

[3_n_out]

  On 11/17/2024 at 3:22 AM, MeanGreenGlory said:

What's the appeal of Carthel? 

Honest question. I don't follow FCS closely, but it seems like every time a position opens up at UNT people on the board want Carthel to fill it.

I see he won the NCAA Division II championship in 2017 and has an overall record of 89–48 which are both impressive. However, his run at SFA from a W/L perspective looks similar to Seth's at UNT in that he built up the program in a few years, but he seems to be plateauing over the past few years.

I'd love to hear more about what the advocates see in him and why he'd be a good fit for UNT specifically. 

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Let’s start with Odom as our interim DC. I heard he was also interim DC for USC not long ago? Anyone know what’s his story?

[3_n_out]

  On 11/17/2024 at 3:43 AM, 3_n_out said:

Let’s start with Odom as our interim DC. I heard he was also interim DC for USC not long ago? Anyone know what’s his story?

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NVM. Just found a thread of it

[southsideguy]

Morris should not be allowed to interview for the DC position.  We need to have someone who understands the defense to ask the right question.  Could we ask Orr to do the interviews for us?

[Tom McKrackin]

  On 11/17/2024 at 5:23 AM, southsideguy said:

Morris should not be allowed to interview for the DC position.  We need to have someone who understands the defense to ask the right question.  Could we ask Orr to do the interviews for us?

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Absolutely agree.  Morris made a terrible decision in the last hire, paying him WAY more than he deserved. Mosley should require full sign off on all candidates and he will.  

[3_n_out]

  On 11/17/2024 at 5:29 AM, Tom McKrackin said:

Absolutely agree.  Morris made a terrible decision in the last hire, paying him WAY more than he deserved. Mosley should require full sign off on all candidates and he will.  

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Our DC also needs to be able to recruit. Apparently, the last regime only recruited DBs and STILL couldn’t run the 3-3-5. 

[Tom McKrackin]

  On 11/17/2024 at 5:33 AM, 3_n_out said:

Our DC also needs to be able to recruit. Apparently, the last regime only recruited DBs and STILL couldn’t run the 3-3-5. 

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Agreed.  Our former highest paid football assistant was clearly a terrible coach and recruiter as well.  Mosley will be making the next hire.  He has to as Morris is putting his AD job in jeopardy now.