Latest on OSU/WSU vs MWC

C Rod · September 12

13 minutes ago, NT80 said:

The 8 remaining MWC schools will be hurting…not only with the loss of some of their best brands…but their media contract renewal soon will suffer too. I bet many of them are on the phone to the AAC seeking shelter.

I'm sure the MWC brass are aware and trying to get ahead of it. Based upon the numbers El Paso Eagle shared, the MWC is about to receive between $108M and $116M in exit fees/PAC penalty fees. Divide that by the remaining 8 schools and each school will receive between $13.5 and $14.5 million dollars.

If Air Force or any other MWC school wants to leave the conference, they will also have to pay the $17M MWC exit fee and forfeit the $13.5-14.5 million headed their way. That's a $30 million dollar swing which makes me think the MWC will stay together for the time being.

NT80 · September 12

7 minutes ago, C Rod said:

I'm sure the MWC brass are aware and trying to get ahead of it. Based upon the numbers El Paso Eagle shared, the MWC is about to receive between $108M and $116M in exit fees/PAC penalty fees. Divide that by the remaining 8 schools and each school will receive between $13.5 and $14.5 million dollars.

If Air Force or any other MWC school wants to leave the conference, they will also have to pay the $17M MWC exit fee and forfeit the $13.5-14.5 million headed their way. That's a $30 million dollar swing which makes me think the MWC will stay together for the time being.

Yes, the exit fees are nice, but it won’t last them long if their Conference value has been cut in half for their next media contract.

“What does hang over the Mountain West is its television deal, which recently added TNT Sports as a third partner and runs through 2025-26.”

Matt from A700 · September 12

13 minutes ago, NT80 said:

The 8 remaining MWC schools will be hurting…not only with the loss of some of their best brands…but their media contract renewal soon will suffer too. I bet many of them are on the phone to the AAC seeking shelter.

This is going to be so crazy to follow. The AAC's media deal probably won't be any better at the next negotiations sans Houston, UCF, Cincinnati, SMU, and maybe Memphis, Tulane, and USF.

I still lean position ourselves for a Pac-12 invite with UTSA and some other nearby schools. Being stuck with the sloppy seconds from the AAC, MWC, and backfills from CUSA sounds less appealing.

Arkstfan · September 13

I have a theory about what Pac-6 is doing. Don't think they are giving a lot of consideration to whether someone is an academic peer, geographically compatible, or bring a large market.

My gut instinct is the pitch is this:

We get the teams that make this conference the frontrunner for the 5th auto bid. You aren't going to recover the special status but you make the Pac-6 into the Pac-8, 9, or 10 and go to the playoff four out of five or five out of five years, the media is going to treat you as one of the serious leagues. If you are making the playoff, your tv value arrives right there because you might not be a big boy but you are a bigger boy than MWC, AAC, Sun Belt, MAC, CUSA.

If they were market chasing, UNLV and Air Force are automatics.

I think Tulane and Memphis are the top targets for 7 and 8. They might be on the UTSA rising star bandwagon for 9.

But really think their hope is to skim contenders off and get them in the Pac and focus on getting in the big boy playoff every year.

UNTLifer · September 13

31 minutes ago, Arkstfan said:

They might be on the UTSA rising star bandwagon for 9.

They might want to see how this season plays out before hitching a trailer to that wagon.

Arkstfan · September 13

2 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

They might want to see how this season plays out before hitching a trailer to that wagon.

I’m a skeptic regarding UTSA

GMG_Dallas · September 14

12 hours ago, Arkstfan said:

I have a theory about what Pac-6 is doing. Don't think they are giving a lot of consideration to whether someone is an academic peer, geographically compatible, or bring a large market.

My gut instinct is the pitch is this:

We get the teams that make this conference the frontrunner for the 5th auto bid. You aren't going to recover the special status but you make the Pac-6 into the Pac-8, 9, or 10 and go to the playoff four out of five or five out of five years, the media is going to treat you as one of the serious leagues. If you are making the playoff, your tv value arrives right there because you might not be a big boy but you are a bigger boy than MWC, AAC, Sun Belt, MAC, CUSA.

If they were market chasing, UNLV and Air Force are automatics.

I think Tulane and Memphis are the top targets for 7 and 8. They might be on the UTSA rising star bandwagon for 9.

But really think their hope is to skim contenders off and get them in the Pac and focus on getting in the big boy playoff every year.

What makes Colorado State a contender outside of money? They haven't hit .500 since 2017.

Arkstfan · September 14

13 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

What makes Colorado State a contender outside of money? They haven't hit .500 since 2017.

They spend. They had a good run and clearly will spend to get another run.

NT80 · September 16

On 9/14/2024 at 6:02 PM, Arkstfan said:

They spend. They had a good run and clearly will spend to get another run.

They would have to replace their football coach first.

southsideguy · September 17

what espn wants is what will. happen. They are the puppet masters

wardly · September 18

For you youngsters, about 24 years ago the WAC had 16 schools.However 5 of them were disgruntled, and few years later 5 of their presidents met at the Denver airport and agreed to form a new conference. They convinced 3 of their cohorts to join them and the 8 schools formed the MWC which essentially destroyed the WAC, who never recovered. Time passes, and a few years ago the AAC steals 6 programs from CUSA forcing them to add anyone they could just to survive, if being the worst G 6 program is surviving . So what goes around comes around. The MWC will add schools like New Mexico State,UTEP,SAC St, and anyone else in order to live. They are scheduled to receive over $100 million in exit and poaching fees so are well positioned to help 1AA programs move up.However Hawaii is on life support,playing in a high school stadium and being subsidized their travel expenses by the MWC who might not want to continue this arrangement . The AAC will probably lose 2 to 4 schools which they will try to replace with Sun Belt or CUSA programs. All of the movements were started by the poaching of the SEC,Big 12, and Big 10 ,which again proves that the big fish eat the little fish.