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[Tommy Gadberry]

I think McCasland will get the Baylor job and Tech may be looking as Ross to replace him.

[MrAlien]

Its not personal its business... The players are no longer playing for an education, they are playing for money.  With that mentality its almost a requirement for players to dip into the portal, this how it works in the professional world. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

1 hour ago, Tommy Gadberry said:

I think McCasland will get the Baylor job and Tech may be looking as Ross to replace him.

1st scenario is more probable than not.
2nd scenario is not likely.

[UNTLifer]

20 hours ago, greenminer said:

Most of them were recruited to fit McCasland's system.  What if Hodge has a different vision for our system? Do you change the system to accommodate this loyalty/investment, or do you take advantage of the portal to put yourself in a winning position...sooner?

Edwards, Buggs and Noland arrived as transfers after McCasland left and Ross was named his replacement.

[NT80]

3 hours ago, Tommy Gadberry said:

I think McCasland will get the Baylor job and Tech may be looking as Ross to replace him.

Tech fans would revolt.  Ross has no skins or banners yet as a Dl coach.  He has no connection to Tech like Grant did.

[Green Lantern]

3 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Tech fans would revolt.  Ross has no skins or banners yet as a Dl coach.  He has no connection to Tech like Grant did.

For real. Half of that ridiculous fanbase completely freaked when McCasland was the choice last year thinking it was “small time”. No way they could sell Ross as the hire to that group.

Edited April 10 by Green Lantern

[UNTLifer]

Drew would be a fool to leave Baylor for Kentucky.

[UNTLifer]

21 hours ago, wardly said:

Coaches and AD's use G5 programs as stepping stones [ Wren, Mac] so how can you not expect players to as well.

Calipari made $8.5 million at UK with all the pressure and lack of NIL to go with the job.  Drew makes a reported $5.13 million at Baylor with an alumni base funding NIL's left and right and about half, if that much, the pressure at UK.  Drew could end his career at Baylor in another 15 years pocketing around $80 million, have a statue erected on the banks of the Brazos and be a local legend or he could go to UK, spend about 5 years before the pressure and expectations run him off and pocket around $42.5 million.

Because of ego, he will probably go to UK, flame out in 5 years of so, and end up on Sports Center or covering March Madness every year.

[97and03]

5 hours ago, GMG24 said:

We released him from his National Letter of Intent, he was a signee not a commit.  Staff had to release him from what he signed. 

Well that’s actually much worse then. 

[greenminer]

9 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Edwards, Buggs and Noland arrived as transfers after McCasland left and Ross was named his replacement.

Okay, that dilutes my first sentence, but it's still a worthy question.

[GMG24]

16 hours ago, 97and03 said:

Well that’s actually much worse then. 

Not necessarily, with the attrition we are facing they may have felt they needed more play ready now guys which I don't really disagree with.  This young man was going to need 2 maybe 3 years before he was ready to play championship level basketball in the AAC 

[Jonnyeagle]

UNT in the past would never likely have done his.  This tells me they realize the stakes have risen and they must adapt to the situation they face.  I applaud them for it and hope the young man finds a rightful home.

[NTSU 74]

wOULD YOU REALLY WANT A KID THAT DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE?

[Tom McKrackin]

1 hour ago, NTSU 74 said:

wOULD YOU REALLY WANT A KID THAT DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE?

I agree with you 100% on this!

[UNTLifer]

22 minutes ago, NT80 said:

We don't need development high school players in this time of NIL and Portal. We need experienced JUCO or other college-portal players that seek starting positions to apply.

[97and03]

18 hours ago, GMG24 said:

Not necessarily, with the attrition we are facing they may have felt they needed more play ready now guys which I don't really disagree with.  This young man was going to need 2 maybe 3 years before he was ready to play championship level basketball in the AAC 

I don’t like pulling a scholarship this late in the game for any reason other than character issues/criminal activity (if that is what happened). Yes we lost an entire top six but we also lost guys who literally never saw the court. I am sure there was room for a developing shooter. Give him Stone’s spot. 

[GMG24]

10 hours ago, 97and03 said:

I don’t like pulling a scholarship this late in the game for any reason other than character issues/criminal activity (if that is what happened). Yes we lost an entire top six but we also lost guys who literally never saw the court. I am sure there was room for a developing shooter. Give him Stone’s spot. 

Does not necessarily mean we pulled it, he may have asked.  We don't have to release him from his NLI National Letter of Intent, but can choose to do so.  

[GMG_Dallas]

On 4/10/2024 at 2:23 PM, UNTLifer said:

Because of ego, he will probably go to UK, flame out in 5 years of so, and end up on Sports Center or covering March Madness every year.

He rejected Kentucky.

[GrandGreen]

On 4/11/2024 at 4:43 PM, NTSU 74 said:

wOULD YOU REALLY WANT A KID THAT DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE?

That is a trick question.  Few players that sign at any school other than the very top tier (SEC, Big East, etc.) schools would not desire to be part of those elite programs.  

Likewise, by signing with any team that player has expressed his desire to play for that team.  

So there is no way, a kid? (player) would sign at any school if he did not want to be there.  Maybe not his first choice or in his top hundred; but based on what is available to him; it was decided it was his best option. 

 

[Censored by Laurie]

returning (so far)

1. Rondel Walker - 6'5" 180 Sr., wing
2. Matt Stone - 6'4" 200 Sr., wing
3. Moulaye Sissoko - 6'10" 250 Sr., post
4. Terrance Dixon - 6'8" 235 Jr/Soph?, post (scholarship?)
5. Alex Cotton - 6'5" 195, Fr., wing

transfers

6. Johnathan Massie (Longwood) - 6'6" 190 Sr., wing ... 11.3ppg, 5.2rpg, 35% 3pt%
7. Jasper Floyd (Fairfield) - 6'3" 195 Sr., guard ... 9.5ppg, 5.9rpg, 4.1apg, 2.4 steals/game (9th in nation)
8. Latrell Jossel (SFA) - 6'1" 185 Sr., guard ...12.9ppg, 2.3apg, 37% 3pt%
9. Brock Vice (Creighton) - 6'10" 245 Fr., post ...redshirted '23-24 season

freshmen

10. Tyron Mason (Plano) - 6'6" 185 Fr., wing

if we assume Dixon is on scholarship. there should be three more to play with. apparently 2 D1 transfers are on campus this week. 

there's not a ton of size, but a lot of length on the wings which could make up for not having a legit 4. Floyd's numbers present him as a true PG...no clue on Jossel, but looks more like a scorer...I think either way, we need bare-minimum one more ball-handler. 

Vice/Dixon are both pure wild-cards...I'd say at least one more 6'8"-6'10" player no matter what...if either/both can contribute next season, then my last ship goes to another scoring guard...if not, go big

[BleedingGreen]

14 hours ago, Censored by Laurie said:

returning (so far)

1. Rondel Walker - 6'5" 180 Sr., wing
2. Matt Stone - 6'4" 200 Sr., wing
3. Moulaye Sissoko - 6'10" 250 Sr., post
4. Terrance Dixon - 6'8" 235 Jr/Soph?, post (scholarship?)
5. Alex Cotton - 6'5" 195, Fr., wing

transfers

6. Johnathan Massie (Longwood) - 6'6" 190 Sr., wing ... 11.3ppg, 5.2rpg, 35% 3pt%
7. Jasper Floyd (Fairfield) - 6'3" 195 Sr., guard ... 9.5ppg, 5.9rpg, 4.1apg, 2.4 steals/game (9th in nation)
8. Latrell Jossel (SFA) - 6'1" 185 Sr., guard ...12.9ppg, 2.3apg, 37% 3pt%
9. Brock Vice (Creighton) - 6'10" 245 Fr., post ...redshirted '23-24 season

freshmen

10. Tyron Mason (Plano) - 6'6" 185 Fr., wing

if we assume Dixon is on scholarship. there should be three more to play with. apparently 2 D1 transfers are on campus this week. 

there's not a ton of size, but a lot of length on the wings which could make up for not having a legit 4. Floyd's numbers present him as a true PG...no clue on Jossel, but looks more like a scorer...I think either way, we need bare-minimum one more ball-handler. 

Vice/Dixon are both pure wild-cards...I'd say at least one more 6'8"-6'10" player no matter what...if either/both can contribute next season, then my last ship goes to another scoring guard...if not, go big

Definitely we need one more PG , a 6-7 to 6-9 PF, bag another 6-7 to 6-10 P/F 

[Censored by Laurie]

5/10 Update

1. Rondel Walker - 6'5" 180 Sr., wing
2. Matt Stone - 6'4" 200 Sr., wing
3. Moulaye Sissoko - 6'10" 250 Sr., post
4. Alex Cotton - 6'5" 195, Fr., wing

transfers

5. Johnathan Massie (Longwood) - 6'6" 190 Sr., wing ... 11.3ppg, 5.2rpg, 35% 3pt%
6. Jasper Floyd (Fairfield) - 6'3" 195 Sr., guard ... 9.5ppg, 5.9rpg, 4.1apg, 2.4 steals/game (9th in nation)
7. Latrell Jossel (SFA) - 6'1" 185 Sr., guard ... 12.9ppg, 2.3apg, 37% 3pt%
8. Brock Vice (Creighton) - 6'10" 245 Fr., post ... redshirted '23-24 season
9. Atin Wright (Drake) - 6'1" 185 Sr, guard ... 14.1ppg, 40.6% 3pt%, 38 steals
10. Grant Newell (Cal) - 6'9" 220 Jr, post ... 5.5ppg, 3.5rpg, 30.5% 3pt%
11. Brenen Lorient (FAU) - 6'9" 200 Jr., post ... 2.2ppg, 1.3rpg, 13 blocks

freshmen

12. Tyron Mason (Plano) - 6'6" 185 Fr., wing

- my best guess on a starting five / rotation

1. Jasper Floyd
2. Atin Wright
3. Rondel Walker
4. Johnathan Massie
5. Moulaye Sissoko

Jossel will be a primary bench scoring option. I think Mason and Cotton will be fighting for for the same minutes at the 2/3. Stone will still get minutes kinda across the 2,3,4 spots for stretches...more if neither Mason nor Cotton show they can contribute and lock down a spot. I think Newell and Lorient are enough size/length/athleticism to get by as sort of a combo 4/5 off the bench. Vice's development is a wild-card, but if he shows anything we already have more depth inside than last season. 

I'm sure some here still want more size, but if we do spend the last scholarship, man I hope it's on a point guard. Floyd looks like a legit 1, but based on numbers Wright and Jossel look more like 2s...and while maybe they can handle, their strengths are as scorers. lack of PG depth hurt us more than lack of size/Sissoko-struggles. 
 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

44 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

5/10 Update

1. Rondel Walker - 6'5" 180 Sr., wing
2. Matt Stone - 6'4" 200 Sr., wing
3. Moulaye Sissoko - 6'10" 250 Sr., post
4. Alex Cotton - 6'5" 195, Fr., wing

transfers

5. Johnathan Massie (Longwood) - 6'6" 190 Sr., wing ... 11.3ppg, 5.2rpg, 35% 3pt%
6. Jasper Floyd (Fairfield) - 6'3" 195 Sr., guard ... 9.5ppg, 5.9rpg, 4.1apg, 2.4 steals/game (9th in nation)
7. Latrell Jossel (SFA) - 6'1" 185 Sr., guard ... 12.9ppg, 2.3apg, 37% 3pt%
8. Brock Vice (Creighton) - 6'10" 245 Fr., post ... redshirted '23-24 season
9. Atin Wright (Drake) - 6'1" 185 Sr, guard ... 14.1ppg, 40.6% 3pt%, 38 steals
10. Grant Newell (Cal) - 6'9" 220 Jr, post ... 5.5ppg, 3.5rpg, 30.5% 3pt%
11. Brenen Lorient (FAU) - 6'9" 200 Jr., post ... 2.2ppg, 1.3rpg, 13 blocks

freshmen

12. Tyron Mason (Plano) - 6'6" 185 Fr., wing

- my best guess on a starting five / rotation

1. Jasper Floyd
2. Atin Wright
3. Rondel Walker
4. Johnathan Massie
5. Moulaye Sissoko

Jossel will be a primary bench scoring option. I think Mason and Cotton will be fighting for for the same minutes at the 2/3. Stone will still get minutes kinda across the 2,3,4 spots for stretches...more if neither Mason nor Cotton show they can contribute and lock down a spot. I think Newell and Lorient are enough size/length/athleticism to get by as sort of a combo 4/5 off the bench. Vice's development is a wild-card, but if he shows anything we already have more depth inside than last season. 

I'm sure some here still want more size, but if we do spend the last scholarship, man I hope it's on a point guard. Floyd looks like a legit 1, but based on numbers Wright and Jossel look more like 2s...and while maybe they can handle, their strengths are as scorers. lack of PG depth hurt us more than lack of size/Sissoko-struggles. 
 

Good stuff. 

I think our size is OK. If Brice pans out, our size is really good. 4 players 6'9" or better that can all contribute. That's rare air even for a major program, especially for a mid-major. I don't mind having a couple 6'1" guards, so as long as they aren't getting heavy minutes together. On paper, Ross and his staff have done a really good job. Now, they have to gel it and it has to translate onto the  floor. 

[Shark84]

We need these guys to live in the gym over the summer and get use to playing together. Maybe they can scrimmage against the Bleed Green team. Wish we would find an overseas tournament to play in. 

[JT Hammons]

1 hour ago, Censored by Laurie said:

5/10 Update

1. Rondel Walker - 6'5" 180 Sr., wing
2. Matt Stone - 6'4" 200 Sr., wing
3. Moulaye Sissoko - 6'10" 250 Sr., post
4. Alex Cotton - 6'5" 195, Fr., wing

transfers

5. Johnathan Massie (Longwood) - 6'6" 190 Sr., wing ... 11.3ppg, 5.2rpg, 35% 3pt%
6. Jasper Floyd (Fairfield) - 6'3" 195 Sr., guard ... 9.5ppg, 5.9rpg, 4.1apg, 2.4 steals/game (9th in nation)
7. Latrell Jossel (SFA) - 6'1" 185 Sr., guard ... 12.9ppg, 2.3apg, 37% 3pt%
8. Brock Vice (Creighton) - 6'10" 245 Fr., post ... redshirted '23-24 season
9. Atin Wright (Drake) - 6'1" 185 Sr, guard ... 14.1ppg, 40.6% 3pt%, 38 steals
10. Grant Newell (Cal) - 6'9" 220 Jr, post ... 5.5ppg, 3.5rpg, 30.5% 3pt%
11. Brenen Lorient (FAU) - 6'9" 200 Jr., post ... 2.2ppg, 1.3rpg, 13 blocks

freshmen

12. Tyron Mason (Plano) - 6'6" 185 Fr., wing

- my best guess on a starting five / rotation

1. Jasper Floyd
2. Atin Wright
3. Rondel Walker
4. Johnathan Massie
5. Moulaye Sissoko

Jossel will be a primary bench scoring option. I think Mason and Cotton will be fighting for for the same minutes at the 2/3. Stone will still get minutes kinda across the 2,3,4 spots for stretches...more if neither Mason nor Cotton show they can contribute and lock down a spot. I think Newell and Lorient are enough size/length/athleticism to get by as sort of a combo 4/5 off the bench. Vice's development is a wild-card, but if he shows anything we already have more depth inside than last season. 

I'm sure some here still want more size, but if we do spend the last scholarship, man I hope it's on a point guard. Floyd looks like a legit 1, but based on numbers Wright and Jossel look more like 2s...and while maybe they can handle, their strengths are as scorers. lack of PG depth hurt us more than lack of size/Sissoko-struggles. 
 

Great post but I disagree, it seems to me like our ball handling is already improved significantly with the new signees.  I would love to have one more big shot blocker and rebounder.