What would be your move with Rubin?

greenminer · February 16

Rumor mill is that Rubin could be ready to go after one more game (after UAB on Sunday). If it were your call, what would you do?

Edited February 16 by greenminer

MeanGreenTexan · February 16

He should play when he feels ready and is medically cleared. I don't know when that is, but I'm not holding a good-to-go Jones out any longer than needed. That just doesn't make much sense.

BillySee58 · February 16

He wasn’t rushed back last time and that didn’t prevent the injury. If he is cleared and feels good, just kind of have to play him and hope for the best. And don’t go into seasons with only one playable PG anymore.

HoosMeanGreen · February 16

2 hours ago, greenminer said:

Rumor mill is that Rubin could be ready to go after one more game (after UAB on Sunday). If it were your call, what would you do?

Playing him. Does not have to be 35 minutes. I want him back in some form to get ready for the conference tournament.

Censored by Laurie · February 16

he missed three weeks the first time. it's been three weeks since the re-tweak. I'm not playing him this weekend, even if he's medically cleared.

I'm not worried about him re-integrating into the team. he's literally the most experienced player in school history.

err on the side of caution...the conference tournament is our only path into a national tournament. if he is 100% for FAU, maaaaaybe, but definitely some minutes for Rice.

HoosMeanGreen · February 16

2 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

he missed three weeks the first time. it's been three weeks since the re-tweak. I'm not playing him this weekend, even if he's medically cleared.

I'm not worried about him re-integrating into the team. he's literally the most experienced player in school history.

err on the side of caution...the conference tournament is our only path into a national tournament. if he is 100% for FAU, maaaaaybe, but definitely some minutes for Rice.

Pinned and replying next week. Not killing my weekend high!

Censored by Laurie · February 16

1 minute ago, HoosMeanGreen said:

Pinned and replying next week. Not killing my weekend high!

neat.

MeanGreen22 · February 16

No reason to bring him back until he’s ready. Regular season championship ship has sailed. I’d like a little ramp up before the tourney but only if he’s not rushed.

Andrew · February 16

I picked the middle but honestly it also would hinge on if he and Scott plan to return next season. They partner well together. If so I wouldn’t risk it as we have time. If he is gone then perhaps push him back sooner.

greenminer · February 17

5 hours ago, BillySee58 said:

He wasn’t rushed back last time and that didn’t prevent the injury. If he is cleared and feels good, just kind of have to play him and hope for the best. And don’t go into seasons with only one playable PG anymore.

All this back and forth about how we do with/out Rubin. How do you think we’d be doing with a serviceable backup PG? You think we would be sitting with 3-4 more wins? Competing for a 1 or 2 seed? I suspect we’d be in a position for a T4 seed.

Hunter Green · February 17

6 hours ago, MeanGreen22 said:

No reason to bring him back until he’s ready. Regular season championship ship has sailed. I’d like a little ramp up before the tourney but only if he’s not rushed.

And for CJ as well.

MeanGreen22 · February 17

13 hours ago, greenminer said:

All this back and forth about how we do with/out Rubin. How do you think we’d be doing with a serviceable backup PG? You think we would be sitting with 3-4 more wins? Competing for a 1 or 2 seed? I suspect we’d be in a position for a T4 seed.

Imagine this team with Shahada Wells. Ended up at McNeese and averaging 17/5/5

greenminer · February 17

16 hours ago, Andrew said:

I picked the middle but honestly it also would hinge on if he and Scott plan to return next season. They partner well together. If so I wouldn’t risk it as we have time. If he is gone then perhaps push him back sooner.

I can’t think of a scenario where this kind of decision is based on offseason turnover.

can you explain your reasoning here?

GMG24 · February 17

15 hours ago, greenminer said:

All this back and forth about how we do with/out Rubin. How do you think we’d be doing with a serviceable backup PG? You think we would be sitting with 3-4 more wins? Competing for a 1 or 2 seed? I suspect we’d be in a position for a T4 seed.

I think we may win 2 of the losses. Giving Edwards/Buggs a few minutes of rest along the way, goes a long way down the stretch. I liked the minutes he had Moore log in the first half. I thought it was exactly what we needed.

NT93 · February 17

He should play when he’s cleared to play. Why leave a healthy starter on the bench?

Edit after reading @Greendylan post. I agree. By being cleared to play, I meant that as being 100%.

Edited February 17 by NT93

Greendylan · February 17

I picked "ASAP," but that's assuming he's fully medically cleared and feeling pretty close to 100%. He's that important to this team, and even if an at-large NCAA tournament bid is no longer in play, these upcoming regular season games down the stretch are still monumentally important. Now, if the question is implying that "ASAP" would be playing him at like 80% and with a medical staff unconvinced, then absolutely not.

UNT Family Man · February 17

Medical staff has to clear him, he has to believe he is ready, and then work load management. I hope that can mean limited minutes building up to the conference tournament.

Greenrex · February 17

I only make expert medical comments over on Facebook however in this case I'm gonna go with whatever the doctors say.

greenminer · February 17

1 hour ago, Greendylan said:

and even if an at-large NCAA tournament bid is no longer in play

That went out the window during OOC play. IMO, it's extremely hard for us to crawl back into those conversations. Especially after losing to SMU/FAU/UAB.

Edited February 17 by greenminer

Glory to the Green · February 17

2 hours ago, GMG24 said:

liked the minutes he had Moore log in the first half. I thought it was exactly what we needed.

Hodge mentioned the value of Moores minutes during the postgame on the radio. If needed, hope he’s able to continue to contribute.

GMG24 · February 17

1 minute ago, Glory to the Green said:

Hodge mentioned the value of Moores minutes during the postgame on the radio. If needed, hope he’s able to continue to contribute.

I really like his ability to handle the basketball. He's as close to Rubin's ability to handle the ball as we have on the team.

Matt from A700 · February 17

I wouldn't rush him, but I really hope he's good to go by the Rice game when all of his friends and family are in attendance.

GMG_Dallas · February 17

Even if he's 100% in his first game, he should not get the normal load of playtime. The ideal would be to have him play 10-15 minutes his first couple games to get his body back into game shape. Don't want to him to get hurt again right before the postseason.

Edit to add, if the season ended today, we'd play Tulsa in round 1. Limit Haggerty and they have no other offense. No purpose in pushing Jones to a full load of minutes when he comes back. Get him going with 10-15 minutes per game and ramp it up to about 20-25 in that first postseason game, then unleash him should we win that first game.

Edited February 18 by GMG_Dallas

BillySee58 · February 18

21 hours ago, greenminer said:

All this back and forth about how we do with/out Rubin. How do you think we’d be doing with a serviceable backup PG? You think we would be sitting with 3-4 more wins? Competing for a 1 or 2 seed? I suspect we’d be in a position for a T4 seed.

Yes I do. Also assuming a serviceable backup PG would allow Jones to play off the ball periodically as well which would’ve helped in the periods of offensive stagnation when there just hasn’t been enough creators on the floor.

Andrew · February 18

23 hours ago, greenminer said:

I can’t think of a scenario where this kind of decision is based on offseason turnover.

can you explain your reasoning here?

The same reason they do this in the NBA and honestly it’s happened at high school if the guy isn’t going to a large program. Don’t want him to injure it again and in a major way that could cause problems leading into next season if he is returning. If he isn’t then we can push it as needed to get the most while we have him.