Mississippi State (12/17/23)

[outoftown]

UNT is shooting 54%, MSU 41%, and UNT also has a better 3 pct. And yet UNT is down, and it speaks to who is the more physical team and who was better at hounding the other team. MSU has a 13-0 lead on points of turnovers. And MSU has given up only 1 turnover. UNT has to force them to make some mistakes if they want a shot at winning this.

Edited December 17, 2023 by outoftown

[outoftown]

I mean i get why the guys on TV think MSU is deeper than UNT and its not completely moronic. But it does feel a bit off, when MSU has only 7 guys with more than 3 minutes so far.

[outoftown]

40-32, with UNT heading to the line. offensive drought has continued into the second half. So far no points from the field yet. 16:42 to go.

[GMoney]

TOs and rebounding!

[Matt from A700]

It's nice to hang our hat on the lowest scoring defense in the nation the past two years, but we need to figure out an offense.

[Big Z]

This sucks 

[Green Lantern]

We have A LOT of work to do as a team. Not ready for AAC play.

[Jonnyeagle]

Very disappointed 

[Venson]

I decided to watch the women's game. At least there we are competitive. We need some size. If not, our guards need to be able to create and score and right now they can't.

[outoftown]

UNT was once up 25-14. Since then the score is 15-40 for MSU

[Pavlovs Eagle]

The team looks like they're done.

Fire up the bus. 

[GrandGreen]

18 minutes ago, Matt from A700 said:

It's nice to hang our hat on the lowest scoring defense in the nation the past two years, but we need to figure out an offense.

That defense is obviously gone.  

[scratch1976]

Wow!!! What a pathetic showing!!! 🤮😡

[L Ron Studdard]

Man, this offense is freaking pathetic. Mississippi State gave up 81 points to 3-6 Murray State Wednesday. UNT gets their third field goal of the half with 6:50 remaining.

Edited December 17, 2023 by L Ron Studdard

[Greendylan]

I have no idea how the season will turn out in the end with months to go, but as of right now, this does not feel like a team that is progressing.

[Green Lantern]

Embarrassing 2nd half effort. No confidence right now. The ”Offense” is putrid. Meanwhile the elite AAC teams are beating Top 25 teams. Got our work cut out for us.

[outoftown]

If you ask me the team will not be good as long as it has several players who do not at all contribute offensiveily. I thought Sissoko drawing some very tough assginments, played great defense today at times, Stone was also ok there.

However when you have two guys who combine for 39 minutes also combine for 2 points, and zero field goals that is a problem if it repeats. And this sure doesn't feel like a first.

If Sissoko gets some offensive mojo back and learns how to handle pressure from good centers when he is on offense, then i think this team contend in the AAC. Without that, I don't see enough folks capable of creating their own space for that to end well without someone up the middle scoring a bit.

Edited December 17, 2023 by outoftown

[Venson]

The men got dominated, but the women are up by 13.

 

[GMG_Dallas]

Turnovers: UNT 16   Miss State 3

Steals: UNT 1    Miss State 8

Blocks: UNT 1   Miss State 5

Assists: UNT 4   Miss State 15

Off Rebs: UNT 10  Miss State 17 

 

No surprise who won with such stark differences in those categories.

[NTXDJ]

That was one of the worst losses I've seen by our guys in several years.  MSU has a good team, but NT made way too many turnovers.  Rubin is a good #2 guard, but he's not much of a point guard.  Anytime your top scorers are also leading the team in turnovers, that's a recipe for frustration. 

[3_n_out]

This offense is terrible. We simply don’t have any offensive players aside from Jason Edwards. And the offensive sets are terrible. Hodge needs to change this style of offense coz it stinks and it does nothing for these guys. All I see are dribble handoffs and passing around the perimeter. No movement towards the lane from guys without the ball. It’s ugly to watch. 

[Matt from A700]

I feel like we have a lot of good offensive pieces, but no one has stepped up as the guy that can be reliably leaned on whenever we need a bucket or free throws like Tylor. I thought Edwards was the top choice to be that guy, but I don't think he gets enough opportunities. I'm not a fan of subbing 2-3 guys out at every other dead ball, so I think some of it is on the coaching decisions. I always believe to coach accordingly to the game, not on the substitution patterns you practiced. If we've got a hot hand, leave him in there!!

Also I agree with @NTXDJ. Rubin is not a PG.

[drex]

I miss Mac getting in their face to wake them up.

[aztecskin]

I think the defense was awful. Jeffries went coast to coast down the middle of the court. This is a no-middle defense folks. Couple of guys got caught ball-watching while MSST drove and dumped it off for dunks. 

Some of those dudes joined the squad to be scorers and aren't scoring too much. 

[3_n_out]

13 minutes ago, Matt from A700 said:

I feel like we have a lot of good offensive pieces…

I thought that also, but 10 games in, Edward’s is the only one who is aggressive offensively and looks for his shot. Aaron was good the first couple of games, Ruben showed for a couple more, but that’s it. Very disappointed in Buggs and Noland. I thought those two would be more dynamic offensively for us, but they’re not. 
 

Where was Walker? I thought he could play?