Jump to content

8 years ago today

TripleGrad

By TripleGrad
in Mean Green Football

 Share

Recommended Posts

tmjerm Veteran

tmjerm

Posted
Posted

Will forever love Seth.  He elevated the program no doubt (just look at the data you posted).  He wasn’t especially charismatic and the game has drastically changed in the last couple of years. I think Eric is great with offensive schemes and can relate to players. Prayers up that that results in some good times 

  • Upvote 6
  • Downvote 1
Dannymacfan Grand Master

Dannymacfan

Posted
Posted
18 minutes ago, tmjerm said:

Will forever love Seth.  He elevated the program no doubt (just look at the data you posted).  He wasn’t especially charismatic and the game has drastically changed in the last couple of years. I think Eric is great with offensive schemes and can relate to players. Prayers up that that results in some good times 

Seth was a very good coach.  He never had this type of losses from his players.  Eric could learn a lot from how Seth handled things if you ask me.

  • Upvote 4
  • Haha 1
  • Eye Roll 3
  • Downvote 2
  • Popular Post
VideoEagle Mentor

VideoEagle

Posted
  • Popular Post
Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, TripleGrad said:

.500 ball is *elevated*?

Seth was the first (non-interim) coach to leave with a .500 or better record since 1980. He was only the second coach in at least 40 years to have back-to-back nine-win seasons. When he arrived, NT had been to one bowl game in 11 years, and during his tenure, we went to five bowls in six years. He changed the standard from "Can you get to any bowl game?" to "How many bowl games can you win?" I don't have the exact numbers handy, but roughly 60% of D1 football coaches have less than a .500 record after 5 years putting Seth in the (roughly) Top 40% of D1 football head coaches. 

Unquestionably, he raised the program to a much higher level than it was when he arrived. 

Edited by VideoEagle
  • Upvote 9
  • Lovely Take 1
  • Thanks 1
  • Eye Roll 1
  • Downvote 1
emmitt01 Grand Master

emmitt01

Posted
Posted
13 hours ago, Dannymacfan said:

Seth was a very good coach.  He never had this type of losses from his players.  Eric could learn a lot from how Seth handled things if you ask me.

Absolutely. Dealing with a college football landscape that is completely different than what it currently is, and with resources and assistant pay completely different than his predecessors, Seth really took us to new heights.

  • Upvote 2
  • Downvote 1
Cougar King Experienced

Cougar King

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, Rudy said:

Looking back, it would have been beneficial for Seth to have gotten the KState job.  He was never the same after he was turned down.  

I thought he turned it down because he didn't want to retain certain K-State people. 

  • Upvote 2
VideoEagle Mentor

VideoEagle

Posted
Posted
16 minutes ago, Cougar King said:

I thought he turned it down because he didn't want to retain certain K-State people. 

That was what the story was. Of course, he never directly commented and KState claimed they were never interested in him as a coach. 

Rudy Grand Master

Rudy

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Cougar King said:

I thought he turned it down because he didn't want to retain certain K-State people. 

He didn't want to retain certain KState assistants, and they decided to move on.

  • Upvote 1
Mean Green 93-98 Grand Master

Mean Green 93-98

Posted
Posted

To Seth's credit, he did what every North Texas coach has tried to do, but no one has been able to do since Hayden Fry--get offered a head coaching gig at a major conference program.  And to his further credit, he turned it down due to loyalty.  Certainly loyalty to the coaches on his staff, in that he demanded KSU hire them all.  And I believe part of it was loyalty to North Texas, who had given him his first opportunity as a head coach.

  • Upvote 2
  • Haha 2
  • Eye Roll 1
VideoEagle Mentor

VideoEagle

Posted
Posted
48 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

To Seth's credit, he did what every North Texas coach has tried to do, but no one has been able to do since Hayden Fry--get offered a head coaching gig at a major conference program.  And to his further credit, he turned it down due to loyalty.  Certainly loyalty to the coaches on his staff, in that he demanded KSU hire them all.  And I believe part of it was loyalty to North Texas, who had given him his first opportunity as a head coach.

Actually the last coach to get hired away to what be became a P5 conference team was Jerry Moore who was hired by Texas Tech after the 1980 season. He was the last coach to leave with a.500 record or better before Seth. 

  • Thanks 2
Mean Green 93-98 Grand Master

Mean Green 93-98

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, VideoEagle said:

Actually the last coach to get hired away to what be became a P5 conference team was Jerry Moore who was hired by Texas Tech after the 1980 season. He was the last coach to leave with a.500 record or better before Seth. 

Thank you, I forgot about him.  The larger point still stands.

  • Upvote 1
Meangreen Fight Experienced

Meangreen Fight

Posted
Posted
6 hours ago, VideoEagle said:

Seth was the first (non-interim) coach to leave with a .500 or better record since 1980. He was only the second coach in at least 40 years to have back-to-back nine-win seasons. When he arrived, NT had been to one bowl game in 11 years, and during his tenure, we went to five bowls in six years. He changed the standard from "Can you get to any bowl game?" to "How many bowl games can you win?" I don't have the exact numbers handy, but roughly 60% of D1 football coaches have less than a .500 record after 5 years putting Seth in the (roughly) Top 40% of D1 football head coaches. 

Unquestionably, he raised the program to a much higher level than it was when he arrived. 

How many conference Championships?  How many bowls wins (in an era when you can go to bowls at 0.500 or below)?  I still see jokes about college football using North Texas as the standard of ineptitude in college football.  Top 40% huh?  So get a 65% in one of classes of your major which technically passing but a D and you are satisfied?  🙄.  We will see how good of a Coordinator Seth is in 2024.  As head coach with the highest paid staff in CUSA most of his tenure he was mediocre.

  • Upvote 3
KingDL1 Veteran

KingDL1

Posted
Posted
10 hours ago, KingDL1 said:

Seth didn't have to play 4 body bag games a year either; he even cried his way out of the Army series. 

How many teams with a winning record did Seth beat?

How many bowls did Seth win?

How many years did Seth go undefeated in Conference?

How many Conference Championships did Seth win?

How many years did Dickey go undefeated in Conference play? 

I was not a Dickey fan, but given the schedules played, facilities available, and increase in funds for assistant coaches Dickey would have clobbered Seth.

Seth was a big freaking joke, that laughed all the way to bank.

  • Upvote 1
  • Thanks 1
  • Downvote 4
rcade Veteran

rcade

Posted
Posted

I'll remember Seth for the great start and the inability to win bowl games and big games aside from shocking Arkansas and knocking off undefeated UTSA.

If he does well as the Sooners OC he'll be in the running for the top job when it comes open next.

  • Skeptical Eagle 1

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

WE BELIEVE IN THE MEAN GREEN!

News

Recruiting

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Please review our full Privacy Policy before using our site.