Amateur Athletics in College Are Officially Over - NCAA Proposes Rule Changes

[ADLER]

Here's FootballScoop's take on the new proposals

https://footballscoop.com/news/breaking-in-radical-change-ncaa-proposing-new-subdivision-to-allow-schools-to-pay-athletes-directly

This will certainly accelerate the next wave of realignment as Florida State, Clemson, Miami, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, and Stanford will all be clamoring to join one of P3 Conferences sooner than their scheduled GOR expiration. Will all of them be able to find a suitable home?

Rumors of mass defections are already swirling.

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The Action Network's Brett McMurphy reported earlier this year that Clemson, Florida State, Miami, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Virginia and Virginia Tech have had conversations with lawyers to explore "just how unbreakable" the ACC's grant-of-rights deal is.

 

Will Pitt, Louisville, and Georgia Tech now be willing to join this "Magnificent 7" in cancelling the ACC GOR if it's their only chance of joining a P3 conference?

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Edited December 5, 2023 by ADLER

[DentonStang]

6 hours ago, MrAlien said:

The proposal is preposterous!  

The NCAA has no power and they know it, I think they only proposed this idea to force congress to get involved. 

It's crazy anyone thinks programs are going to willingly let this get corrupted by Title IX.  What an unbelievable and unfair distribution of money that would be. 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

9 minutes ago, DentonStang said:

It's crazy anyone thinks programs are going to willingly let this get corrupted by Title IX.  What an unbelievable and unfair distribution of money that would be. 

Hardly any university strictly adheres to title IX. It's washed over and no one bats an eye. 

[RBP79]

Stupid question......

Are NIL monies claimed and taxed? 

[Rudy]

At this point, make players employees of the school, set a salary cap, donors are the owners, athletic directors are the general managers, and make the athletes sign contracts.  Legally binding contracts.  A player wants to change teams, trade.  Let's see how long those shitty P5 douchebags settle for not simply being able to poach a G5 player.

 

This is what those players wanted, then this is what they get.  You wanted to be a pro sports player, you get the whole experience, including taxes.

[TheColonyEagle]

47 minutes ago, RBP79 said:

Stupid question......

Are NIL monies claimed and taxed? 

That's not a stupid question....

 

I would assume they WOULD be taxed

[greenjoe]

The advantage to donors of giving to the school run NIL is the tax credit.  As the he e program is now, the paid athlete is somewhat an employee of the collective.   Does the school continue to pay the athlete’s insurance or is that a benefit of the collective ?

[MeanGreenZen]

1 hour ago, TheColonyEagle said:

That's not a stupid question....

 

I would assume they WOULD be taxed

Heck yes it is taxed.

[MeanGreenZen]

If these athletes want to make it a business, fine, let’s make it a business. The athletes can sign contracts with schools that also include buyout clauses (like their coaches have) if they want to transfer. 

Contracts can be of varying length and the amount of the buyouts can also vary. If the athlete outperforms the contract and wants to sign with another school, great, the athlete or their next school has to pay North Texas X amount that North Texas can then use to sign their replacement.

There are a lot of details to iron out. But something like this could work. 

Also, I don’t have a problem with players being fairly compensated, but let’s not pretend that the players aren’t benefiting from the institution in non-educational ways. 

Rogers, Adeyi, and Maclin produced a 3,000/1,000/1,000 season. They also ate the food provided by our nutrition staff, worked out in our facilities under the tutelage of our strength/conditioning coaches and executed a scheme designed by our coaches. 

Then those players can just peace out and auction themselves off to the highest bidder? No, the school that invested so heavily into them deserves compensation. 

Edited December 6, 2023 by MeanGreenZen

[Arkstfan]

The NCAA isn't spineless, it's toothless. The Association has been beat to hell by a string of antitrust lawsuit decisions going back 40 years.

Basketball would likely have already had a privately run CFP style tournament had the NCAA not bought the NIT to stave off an inevitable loss to the NIT because of a stupid rule that said if you are invited to the NCAA Tournament and turn it down, you are ineligible for postseason. Incredibly obvious violation.

Our courts are stacked pretty deep with judges who are skeptical of any sort of restraint on free markets and they are slapping the NCAA right and left.

Absent Congress granted an antitrust exemption, genuine pay for play is coming and with it most likely a union and a collective bargaining agreement that sets minimum compensation standards that no one outside the P4 can afford and some in the P4 can't afford.

If the NCAA and P4/5 gets slammed as bad as many expect in pending litigation ($4 billion is a possible verdict) its going to be insanity.

You are going to see some of the P4 who can't just cough up their potentially as much as $58 million share of the verdict. They are going to turn to venture capital firms who are going to be willing throw hundreds of millions maybe billions at P4 athletic departments for a percentage of all future revenue.

Imagine a bunch of schools selling their souls to venture capital and then being pressured to form a new conference that doesn't include those schools who take out more than they contribute. Sorry Mississippi State and Vandy we need your share of SEC revenue.

This business got full on pro there won't be 69 Power 4 schools.

College football isn't going to die.

There are 772 four year colleges playing football, up four from last year with 11 more in the process off adding football.

What is going to die is unpaid football at the schools in the SEC, ACC, Big Ten, and Big XII.

Gee whiz schools in AAC, CUSA, MAC, MWC/P2, Sun Belt likely won't go play football at those schools for a million plus any more and won't be blessed with their top teams getting a crack at the P4 lower tier teams in a bowl.

College football will live on.