North Texas Portal Entry Thread

DeepGreen · December 5, 2023

I imagine these collectives will look at their ROI’s.

TheReal_jayD · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 3:30 AM, TIgreen01 said:

So…has this board just turned into the ad/tease for the patreon vip board now? Starts a thread, updates it for a while, then stops and links behind a paywall. Ok.

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List is updated. I am sorry for the delay.

Arkstfan · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 4:34 AM, peanuts104 said:

I wonder what happens when NIL collectives get burned on spending too much money on players at the top level. I think the money dries up in a year or two in terms of willingness to give out funds. Could be very wrong.

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I don't know what anyone else is doing. I know the one at A-State does one year deals. They don't commit money they don't have. They also pay after the fact. You have to meet your various obligations during the month or you are likely to have your pay held until you make the required appearances and social media posts. I highly doubt that is the practice everywhere but one of the organizers at A-State was COO of a very large bank and did a stint at the Federal Reserve.

My expectation is we will eventually see a collective go to bankruptcy or just flat fold because it lacks any assets to protect in bankruptcy court and some really unhappy players when the check bounces or never arrives.

I also expect some schools will have the embarrassment of discovering that the person they hired to run the collective is a film-flam man and has skimmed money off in various schemes.

Again won't be pretty.

Arkstfan · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 4:39 AM, DeepGreen said:

I imagine these collectives will look at their ROI’s.

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I would expect there will be instances of collectives telling coaches we aren't pouring any more money into that kid, though I expect the norm will be coaches saying, don't spend any more or don't spend more than X.

The real issue is the donor class. If you are paying and getting 3 win teams, your enthusiasm is bound to wane.

BillySee58 · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 1:19 AM, UNTFan94 said:

As I sit here seeing all of these names enter the portal, I am a bit caught off guard. I really thought we had found something special at the end of the year. Morris was hired to bring in talent, and it appears to me that we are losing much more of it than bringing in.

I wonder if it would help him to bring in an experienced voice and recruiter. Somebody that can unite, inspire, and maybe most importantly RETAIN talent. Somebody that is respected among TX high school coaches. Somebody that knows the area well. Somebody that has been a HC at this level. Somebody who has learned what it takes to succeed and fail at this level. That somebody may be Todd Dodge. Who is to say the one who killed this program could not also be the one to resurrect it? I think he could be a big help to EMO.

I am not off the train yet, but I do wonder if Littrell might be involved in some sabotaging of this roster, given everything that has occurred. Please talk me off the ledge. #GMG

Signed,

A Concerned Fan

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I really don’t think there is much Morris can do with some of these departures. Guys know they can get paid handsomely and don’t have to sit out because so many of them have graduated due to getting that free COVID season of eligibility. I completely get the concern though.

One thing I’ll say is that as of now out of our 17 Portal entrants, only Ethan Miner and Josh Smith were brought in by Morris.

TheReal_jayD · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 1:59 AM, Cr1028 said:

@TheReal_jayDsays that most of these guys were encouraged to leave so take that as you wish.

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I’m sure this was meant to be a facetious comment.. but outside of Maclin, Ayo, Wilson, Miner and Febechi I don’t see staff losing any sleep over any one else that has hit portal so far. And 3 of the 5 I listed were walk ons and 1 of the others only offer out of portal was UNT. Sucks losing them. But it’s happening to everyone. There is over 1000 guys in portal right now. Almost 10 per team

MeanGreenTexan · December 5, 2023

On 12/4/2023 at 7:24 PM, GMG_Dallas said:

Was just about to post this.

New coaching staff and we have a void with Maclin leaving. Would he come back and would the coaching staff want him back? So far, FAU has offered.

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Luke 15:11

tmjerm · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 5:18 AM, Arkstfan said:

I would expect there will be instances of collectives telling coaches we aren't pouring any more money into that kid, though I expect the norm will be coaches saying, don't spend any more or don't spend more than X.

The real issue is the donor class. If you are paying and getting 3 win teams, your enthusiasm is bound to wane.

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First, I appreciate your posts. You’re pretty level headed and see things pretty clearly. Not sure what brings you around these parts but I’m glad you’re around.

To me, we need genuine regulation. Either re-empower the NCAA or come up with something different. I’m not sure why we’d come up with something different when there’s already an infrastructure. I think the TV deals shifted the power from the regulatory authority to the conferences/schools. For a time, that was good. I don’t necessarily want the old NCAA back but we have got to have governance over this thing really fast before it’s all in ruins if it isn’t already. It’s so sad to me to see something I’ve loved all my life look the way it does today.

Cr1028 · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 5:30 AM, TheReal_jayD said:

I’m sure this was meant to be a facetious comment.. but outside of Maclin, Ayo, Wilson, Miner and Febechi I don’t see staff losing any sleep over any one else that has hit portal so far. And 3 of the 5 I listed were walk ons and 1 of the others only offer out of portal was UNT. Sucks losing them. But it’s happening to everyone. There is over 1000 guys in portal right now. Almost 10 per team

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No disrespect was attached to my comment. I was simply saying what I had seen said. It was in no way a swipe at you.

BleedingGreen · December 5, 2023

One answer - $$$$$$$$$.

TheReal_jayD · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 2:59 PM, Cr1028 said:

No disrespect was attached to my comment. I was simply saying what I had seen said. It was in no way a swipe at you.

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MeanGreenTexan · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 1:19 AM, UNTFan94 said:

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I am not off the train yet, but I do wonder if Littrell might be involved in some sabotaging of this roster, given everything that has occurred. Please talk me off the ledge. #GMG

Signed,

A Concerned Fan

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Andrew · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 3:07 AM, DentonLurker said:

Doing what they deem best for their own personal situation will make them miserable adults? Not to mention, some of the portal entries are encouraged by their current coaches.

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Yes because more often than not their decisions are all about me me me… granted they could just as easily be buried in the depth chart, but there must be balance. One and only one transfer and abolish the NIL!

NorthTexasWeLove · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 4:18 PM, Andrew said:

Yes because more often than not their decisions are all about me me me… granted they could just as easily be buried in the depth chart, but there must be balance. One and only one transfer and abolish the NIL!

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The dog is out of the bag.

It does need regulation.

However, the NCAA just put out confirmation they are working on a system that separates the rich from the poor and creates a new "division" of collegiate athletics. My guess is that it will be for football only. Furthering the case of allocating far more of our funds into basketball. The smart universities willing to get this done early will set a foundation that catapults them into relevancy. The dumb universities will be completely reactionary. Guess which category UNT will fall in...

SilverEagle · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 5:16 AM, Arkstfan said:

I don't know what anyone else is doing. I know the one at A-State does one year deals. They don't commit money they don't have. They also pay after the fact. You have to meet your various obligations during the month or you are likely to have your pay held until you make the required appearances and social media posts. I highly doubt that is the practice everywhere but one of the organizers at A-State was COO of a very large bank and did a stint at the Federal Reserve.

My expectation is we will eventually see a collective go to bankruptcy or just flat fold because it lacks any assets to protect in bankruptcy court and some really unhappy players when the check bounces or never arrives.

I also expect some schools will have the embarrassment of discovering that the person they hired to run the collective is a film-flam man and has skimmed money off in various schemes.

Again won't be pretty.

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Hmmm........SURELY North Texas wouldn't get itself into such a situation.....😎

GoGreenBeans · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 4:18 PM, Andrew said:

Yes because more often than not their decisions are all about me me me… granted they could just as easily be buried in the depth chart, but there must be balance. One and only one transfer and abolish the NIL!

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So...reverting things back to the old ways?? Changes obviously need to be made, but there is no future in which NIL is completely done away with. Athletes already got a taste of this life, trying to have them turn back would destroy CFB

SMU2006 · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 12:34 AM, Andrew said:

Going to have a miserable life as adults. That’s the next generation. 🤮

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UNTLifer · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 4:58 PM, SMU2006 said:

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Satisfying that fetish again.

HoustonEagle · December 5, 2023

As far as I can tell we have the most players going into the portal of any team in the conference. Going back to a theme I have harped on many times. We have to find the money otherwise we can't compete!

SMU2006 · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 5:50 PM, HoustonEagle said:

As far as I can tell we have the most players going into the portal of any team in the conference. Going back to a theme I have harped on many times. We have to find the money otherwise we can't compete!

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MGNation92 · December 5, 2023

Excuse my French but we're douchebagED

Jdawg48 · December 5, 2023

Yup Rodgers in portal....

Man what an offseason this is going to be

HelixGMG · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 7:21 PM, MGNation92 said:

Excuse my French but we're douchebagED

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Just saw this too and am stunned. The only silver lining is that many other quarterbacks have entered the portal too. But you hate to see a stud starter go...

Green Crazy · December 5, 2023

On 12/5/2023 at 7:21 PM, MGNation92 said:

Excuse my French but we're douchebagED

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And the last domino to fall. We only have ourselves (UNT) to blame. If our alum, besides about 5% of us over the last 3 decades gave a douchebag then we'd be in a totally different situation on multiple levels.

Edited December 5, 2023 by Green Crazy