Worst hire since Dodge?

TheReal_jayD · November 6, 2023

4 hours ago, WinningCulture_UNT said:

You Can't compare Morris to Kinne. Kinne had half of his team from UIW transfer into T-State. How was Morris going to get WSU kids to come to UNT? Not happening, not to mention Kinne's kids from UIW were all from Morris era at UIW. Morris will figure this out. To all UNT fans, take a note from Aaron Rodgers. R-E-L-A-X.

THIS 110%

57 minutes ago, rcade said:

A team has 22 starters except for Colorado, which has 21.

Even if half of Kinne's starters were actually from Incarnate Word, the idea that bringing in a bunch of Incarnate Word players was an advantage for him is far-fetched. For the love of God it's Incarnate Word! A school that small which wasn't playing even FCS football 12 years ago isn't churning out players who can win at the FBS level.

If Morris had arrived and brought in five Incarnate Word transfers we'd have thought "sweet Jesus our cupboard was bare."

UIW was one of the best FCS in the country the last two seasons.. If we played them last year I am not sure we would have beat them. Yes bringing in half of the starters already familiar with the staff and system is a huge advantage that we can't over look.

TheReal_jayD · November 6, 2023

6 minutes ago, keith said:

Be honest, how many of you had Eric Morris circled as your number one target for our head coach? How many of you knew who he was before he was announced as our head coach? He wanted to get back to Texas and we were kind enough to pay his relocation expenses. Regardless of how you feel about him, his hire was a big risk and with that comes the potential for huge returns. If he flames out, he'll be gone in three years. If he orchestrates a massive turn-around, he'll also be gone in three years. Hopefully it's the latter and he gets hired away instead of fired away.

There were people on here that were wanting Morris when Seth flirted with Kansas State.

VideoEagle · November 6, 2023

1 hour ago, keith said:

his hire was a big risk

I just went back and looked at several newspaper articles from when he was hired. He was most certainly NOT a big risk. Multiple news articles praised him as a PAC-12 OC last year. Here's just one from the Seattle Times. Morris built a winning program at UIW and his recruits are now crucial to Texas State's current success.

A LOT of people on this board were strongly in favor of hiring a successful P5 coordinator with successful head coaching experience at a lower division and Texas ties. That's exactly what NT did!

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · November 7, 2023

You’re delusional if you think Morris is a bad hire, he cares so much about the program. It’s year 1 did y’all really expect a damn conference championship?

It’s a struggle, but it’s also apparent many won’t be happy no matter who’s coach.

Cr1028 · November 7, 2023

On 11/4/2023 at 8:01 PM, MrAlien said:

First off, this was going to be a rebuilding year.

Second, Morris was a late hire, had virtually no recruiting, missed most of the fall transfer window, and most of the good assistant coaches were already committed to other schools.

Morris was hired 3 days before GJ Kinne coached his last game at UIW. Kinne’s Texas State team is bowl eligible for the first time in 9 years with 3 games left to play. Morris, on the other hand, is on the cusp of having us miss a bowl game for just the 2nd time in the last 8 years.

Texas State went from 4-8 to now 6-3.

We went from 7-6 to 3-6.

UNTLifer · November 7, 2023

Question: what defensive scheme did Morris run at UIW, were they successful and who was his coordinator?

Cr1028 · November 7, 2023

13 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Question: what defensive scheme did Morris run at UIW, were they successful and who was his coordinator?

Don’t know the answers to all of these but I know the DC was Justin Deason who is now an assistant at New Braunfels Canyon HS. He must’ve had some success because he won a D2 title at TAMU-C with Carthel.

https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2023/02/27/five-possible-candidates-to-be-the-next-dc-at-sfa?ref=article_preview_title

Edited November 7, 2023 by Cr1028

MGNation92 · November 7, 2023

44 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Question: what defensive scheme did Morris run at UIW, were they successful and who was his coordinator?

31 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

Don’t know the answers to all of these but I know the DC was Justin Deason who is now an assistant at New Braunfels Canyon HS. He must’ve had some success because he won a D2 title at TAMU-C with Carthel.

https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2023/02/27/five-possible-candidates-to-be-the-next-dc-at-sfa?ref=article_preview_title

After diving into Deason, he is a product of Bill Clay, who ran a 3-4 and is currently a defensive analyst at OSU (Was the DC under Les Miles from 2001-2004, when Deason played).

I imagine it's a similar system with a 3 man front. Deason's defenses did, however cause a lot of turnovers - Most of his defenses at TAMUC and UIW were top in multiple categories in the nation. Majority of his coaching career has been D2/FCS though. Morris knows him well, so I'm sure there's a reason he didn't bring him along.

Cr1028 · November 7, 2023

5 hours ago, MGNation92 said:

After diving into Deason, he is a product of Bill Clay, who ran a 3-4 and is currently a defensive analyst at OSU (Was the DC under Les Miles from 2001-2004, when Deason played).

I imagine it's a similar system with a 3 man front. Deason's defenses did, however cause a lot of turnovers - Most of his defenses at TAMUC and UIW were top in multiple categories in the nation. Majority of his coaching career has been D2/FCS though. Morris knows him well, so I'm sure there's a reason he didn't bring him along.

Thank you for the info.

untjim1995 · November 7, 2023

If you’re a G5 program, you’d be really smart to look at a great regional FCS program to poach their coach and get their players to transfer. As was mentioned earlier, getting upperclassmen that are used to a coach’s system and moving them up against G5s that aren’t really good, you’ll do fine. Texas State is showing just that. We just didn’t look at that when we hired Morris. Doesn’t mean he will fail, but it makes his efforts to recruit and develop HUGE!!

MAX KOCH · November 8, 2023

Coaches should just get paid a ratio percentage of wins to losses. If Morriss ends up 3-9 then 3/9 = 33% of his salary

Win all games and get 100% ... lose them all don't get paid at all.

VideoEagle · November 8, 2023

6 hours ago, MAX KOCH said:

Coaches should just get paid a ratio percentage of wins to losses. If Morriss ends up 3-9 then 3/9 = 33% of his salary

Win all games and get 100% ... lose them all don't get paid at all.

Good luck with that!

GrayEagle · November 9, 2023

The latest national figures show that Eric Morris is a good offensive coach. The passing offense is rated 13th in the nation. The run offensive is #36 nationally. We are ranked #11 in total offense. Not too many new coaches will beat that kind of performance.

Now flip it to defense. The pass defense is #47. That's a good number but the problem is we do not get thrown against very often. That's the only decent defensive number. Both the rushing defense and the total defense rank 133 (dead last).

Those figures tell that the run defense should be changed unless the team being played does not have a good run offense; in which case the 3-5-5 should be able to stop a passing team. It seems a rather simple fix; get the best available DC to replace the current one. Applications, anyone?