What I'm Looking For in the Navy Game

MeanGreenGlory · October 3, 2023

There's a lot of doom and gloom around here right now, but I just glanced at the scores of the first four games and noticed a positive trend line worth noting:

Points Scored:

Game 1: 21
Game 2: 39
Game 3: 40
Game 4: 45

Points Allowed:

Game 1: 58
Game 2: 46
Game 3: 37
Game 4: 31

Each game, the offense has scored more points and the defense has allowed fewer points. You can argue that the last game against an FCS opponent should have been a bigger spread, and there's truth to that, but overall it looks like the players are getting more comfortable with the new schemes.

Regarding Navy, I'm less concerned about our offense and more concerned about our run defense. If we can score 35+ and keep them to 28 or under, I think it'll be an indicator that we'll be competitive in the rest of conference play.

Hunter Green · October 3, 2023

Rain my be the determining factor.

meaniegreenie · October 3, 2023

30 minutes ago, MeanGreenGlory said:

There's a lot of doom and gloom around here right now, but I just glanced at the scores of the first four games and noticed a positive trend line worth noting:

Points Scored:

Game 1: 21

Game 2: 39

Game 3: 40

Game 4: 45

Points Allowed:

Game 1: 58

Game 2: 46

Game 3: 37

Game 4: 31

Each game, the offense has scored more points and the defense has allowed fewer points. You can argue that the last game against an FCS opponent should have been a bigger spread, and there's truth to that, but overall it looks like the players are getting more comfortable with the new schemes.

Regarding Navy, I'm less concerned about our offense and more concerned about our run defense. If we can score 35+ and keep them to 28 or under, I think it'll be an indicator that we'll be competitive in the rest of conference play.

The quality of opponents declined with each of those games too. If Navy is worse than ACU, then the pattern should continue.

Sig381 · October 3, 2023

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UNTethered Eagle · October 3, 2023

6 hours ago, meaniegreenie said:

The quality of opponents declined with each of those games too. If Navy is worse than ACU, then the pattern should continue.

La Tech beat FIU though.

Aquila_Viridis · October 3, 2023

Perfect. Right in line with my expectation that NT wins 50-25. 😁

Rudy · October 3, 2023

Our guys have trouble tackling players in dry weather. We expect them to be better tacklers when it's wet???

3_n_out · October 4, 2023

I’m watching the Navy/Memphis game to get a better feel for our opponent this weekend. They have such a potent running game. They have good athletes and execute really well. They have really tough runners who can break it if we don’t keep contain.
Defensively, they can be aggressive and show different alignments to confuse offenses. You can see them all run to the football and gang tackle.
Just my thoughts for us to be competitive…

offense:

1. Maintain possession by establishing the run. I feel this will keep us in the game. I’ve seen gaps in their defense.

2. Connect on intermediate passes. The way they come at you, Rogers needs to make quick decisions and complete these passes.
defense:

1. LBs/safeties need to come up big this game. They’re going to have to make a lot of reads and a lot of 1v1 opportunities.

2. DBs can’t be playing 10yds deep like they did against ACU. Since they don’t pass as much, bring them closer about halfway in for run support. QB can throw and makes smart decisions.

3. Gang tackle…or just tackle

Edited October 4, 2023 by 3_n_out

Green Crazy · October 5, 2023

What I'm looking to change is this...

	FIRST	SECOND
CAL	21-33	0-25
FIU	20-17	19-29
LA TECH	23-14	17-23
ACU	31-17	14-14
TOTAL	95-81	50-91

In every game we've outscored our opponent in the first half (except Cal) and been outscored in the second half (except ACU, and that was a tie). Also, in every game we've scored less in the second half than the first half and almost given up more points in the second half than we have the first half. This could be a variety of things, but what it looks like is that the other teams are going in a halftime and making adjustments that are better than our adjustment, basically out coaching us at halftime and in the second half. I would like to see us get better in the third and fourth quarters instead of getting worse.

emmitt01 · October 5, 2023

On 10/3/2023 at 5:44 PM, UNTethered Eagle said:

La Tech beat FIU though.

And if Chandler Rogers had been our quarterback, we would have too.

THOR · October 6, 2023

On 10/3/2023 at 10:37 AM, MeanGreenGlory said:

keep them to 28 or under

no way in hell this happens

Jonnyeagle · October 6, 2023

You gotta stop three different plays every play. And they are big and physical.

Rudy · October 6, 2023

1 hour ago, Jonnyeagle said:

You gotta stop three different plays every play. And they are big and physical.

It blows my mind we don't have a Wishbone formation. So many options on every single play.

3_n_out · October 6, 2023

At this point, I’m sure we all just want to see steady improvement from our defense game to game. Also, it’ll show the defensive coaches are doing their part to make this unit more functional. If not, I just can’t see how Morris remains confident with Caponi.

Travis · October 6, 2023

10 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

And if Chandler Rogers had been our quarterback, we would have too.

Debatable. So even after spotting Rogers three points , we still lost the game from that second half with Rogers under center. Rogers is the guy at QB but let’s not forget we had the lead when he took over at FIU and then we lost it.

golfingomez · October 6, 2023

On 10/3/2023 at 10:37 AM, MeanGreenGlory said:

There's a lot of doom and gloom around here right now, but I just glanced at the scores of the first four games and noticed a positive trend line worth noting:

Points Scored:

Game 1: 21

Game 2: 39

Game 3: 40

Game 4: 45

Points Allowed:

Game 1: 58

Game 2: 46

Game 3: 37

Game 4: 31

Each game, the offense has scored more points and the defense has allowed fewer points. You can argue that the last game against an FCS opponent should have been a bigger spread, and there's truth to that, but overall it looks like the players are getting more comfortable with the new schemes.

Regarding Navy, I'm less concerned about our offense and more concerned about our run defense. If we can score 35+ and keep them to 28 or under, I think it'll be an indicator that we'll be competitive in the rest of conference play.

that may be what you are looking for, but all you are going to find is...

Seamen... Seamen EVERYWHERE!

greenminer · October 6, 2023

15 hours ago, Rudy said:

It blows my mind we don't have a Wishbone formation. So many options on every single play.

Probably for the same reason(s) coaches don't want to play against it, and want extra time to prepare: you have to execute it at an extremely high/polished level, or you fail miserably.

Rudy · October 6, 2023

50 minutes ago, greenminer said:

Probably for the same reason(s) coaches don't want to play against it, and want extra time to prepare: you have to execute it at an extremely high/polished level, or you fail miserably.

Then you should implement it during the off season, so you can learn it.

greenminer · October 6, 2023

1 hour ago, Rudy said:

Then you should implement it during the off season, so you can learn it.

Don't you think you might be underestimating everything that is involved? If it were so straightforward, why aren't more programs implementing it?

97and03 · October 6, 2023

11 hours ago, Travis said:

Debatable. So even after spotting Rogers three points , we still lost the game from that second half with Rogers under center. Rogers is the guy at QB but let’s not forget we had the lead when he took over at FIU and then we lost it.

Really? And what would we have held if Earle hadn’t thrown two INTs and completed 50 percent of passes?? Rogers was 11/15 with 2 TDs. The defense blew that game - we can all agree on that - but can we at consider that the game might have been out of reach without the first half turnovers and ineptitude??

Travis · October 7, 2023

On 10/6/2023 at 3:06 PM, 97and03 said:

Really? And what would we have held if Earle hadn’t thrown two INTs and completed 50 percent of passes?? Rogers was 11/15 with 2 TDs. The defense blew that game - we can all agree on that - but can we at consider that the game might have been out of reach without the first half turnovers and ineptitude??

Doesn’t matter. And also kinda my point. It is a large assumption that Rogers would have won the game at FIU. Earl still left the game with a lead and Rogers was spotted three points and we lost the game. To assume that somehow he would have won it largely ignores that simple fact.

Edited October 7, 2023 by Travis