Promotion/relegation in college football? Game-changing idea could help save Pac-12

[meangreen11]

But it’s off the field where so much interest in these two programs lies. As they team up for a court fight over the Pac-12’s survival, their future conference affiliation hangs in doubt.

Will they dissolve the Pac-12 and join the Mountain West?

Will they merge with the Mountain West under the Pac-12 banner to preserve the league and its assets?

Will they rebuild the Pac-12 by plucking other Group of Five members?

Or … Will they do something unconventional, creative and, some might say, altogether eccentric. Will they leap with both feet into a pool of uncertainty, overhaul how college conferences are structured and remake the industry’s long-standing model?

read more: https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football-pac-12-mountain-west-promotion-relegation-234810955.html

[NT80]

20 hours ago, meangreen11 said:

But it’s off the field where so much interest in these two programs lies. As they team up for a court fight over the Pac-12’s survival, their future conference affiliation hangs in doubt.

Will they dissolve the Pac-12 and join the Mountain West?

Will they merge with the Mountain West under the Pac-12 banner to preserve the league and its assets?

Will they rebuild the Pac-12 by plucking other Group of Five members?

Or … Will they do something unconventional, creative and, some might say, altogether eccentric. Will they leap with both feet into a pool of uncertainty, overhaul how college conferences are structured and remake the industry’s long-standing model?

read more: https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football-pac-12-mountain-west-promotion-relegation-234810955.html

A very interesting concept.  But it may be too soon for it to happen, and especially with only a conference and a portion of a conference.  There would need to be more participants.  What happens with a team like Oregon State, who just spent $180m on a stadium re-do gets relegated to the lower conference?  Donors stop donating.

[PlummMeanGreen]

9 hours ago, NT80 said:

A very interesting concept.  But it may be too soon for it to happen, and especially with only a conference and a portion of a conference.  There would need to be more participants.  What happens with a team like Oregon State, who just spent $180m on a stadium re-do gets relegated to the lower conference?  Donors stop donating.

So very true.  
Look what SMU alums are spending to be relevant again, but to be relevant as a P5 school—not a G5 school.  

UNT’s Indoor Practice Facility is a priceless jewel inside the Mean Green Village, but the NCAA Rules Committee has so screwed things up since UNT opened the IPF it’s not even funny.  

[NT80]

Oregon St. AD: Promotion/relegation model 'worthy of study'

"I just don't see a great easy pathway to get there without a major market disruptor coming in with a lot of financial resources to say, let's do something different," Schulz said.

Recent events in European soccer suggest large brands do not believe a promotion/relegation model benefits them. In fact, the ill-fated Super League proposal shows the lengths Europe's biggest soccer clubs were willing to go to enter a model more consistent with how American sports leagues operate."

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38457319/promotion-relegation-model-worthy-study

[akriesman]

I am not a huge soccer fan. But, I think the Promotion/Relegation model used in the UK is one of the coolest things in sports worldwide.

[Arkstfan]

On 9/22/2023 at 2:05 PM, akriesman said:

I am not a huge soccer fan. But, I think the Promotion/Relegation model used in the UK is one of the coolest things in sports worldwide.

It is unless your team gets relegated and the loss of income forces selling off the stars and then you suck for real and go down another level. 24 Premier league teams relegated ended up falling two steps, seven of those going down three steps, and one going down four steps. Very common for relegated teams to end up going into administration (bankruptcy court) to reorganize their finances. Some smaller clubs have been folded, one relocated. Portsmouth FC barely escaped being folded.

[akriesman]

56 minutes ago, Arkstfan said:

It is unless your team gets relegated and the loss of income forces selling off the stars and then you suck for real and go down another level. 24 Premier league teams relegated ended up falling two steps, seven of those going down three steps, and one going down four steps. Very common for relegated teams to end up going into administration (bankruptcy court) to reorganize their finances. Some smaller clubs have been folded, one relocated. Portsmouth FC barely escaped being folded.

Hmm. That's really interesting.

[NT80]

This is how it would potentially work, and attract fans too...

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3485239/exactly-what-america-needs-this-report-of-a-promotionrelegation-system-between-the-pac-12-and-mwc-in-college-football

[untcampbell]

I am interested, and I would follow closely. I have a special place in my heart for the underdog, and promotion/relegation captures it beautifully.

 

GMG

Edited September 26, 2023 by untcampbell

[VideoEagle]

On 9/24/2023 at 11:59 PM, Arkstfan said:

It is unless your team gets relegated and the loss of income forces selling off the stars and then you suck for real and go down another level. 24 Premier league teams relegated ended up falling two steps, seven of those going down three steps, and one going down four steps. Very common for relegated teams to end up going into administration (bankruptcy court) to reorganize their finances. Some smaller clubs have been folded, one relocated. Portsmouth FC barely escaped being folded.

It sounds as though relegation has the same effect that the NCAA death penalty had on SMU. I can’t imagine many, if any, schools voting for it. 

[Arkstfan]

On 9/26/2023 at 6:43 AM, VideoEagle said:

It sounds as though relegation has the same effect that the NCAA death penalty had on SMU. I can’t imagine many, if any, schools voting for it. 

Let's say AAC split into two equal divisions. Top division gets 50% more than the current distribution, the relegation division gets 50% less.

Would you want UNT to vote for a pro/rel model?

Let's say bottom two of top division go down each year and top two of the regulation division go up.

Would not take long for the better teams with the added money to become significantly stronger. The teams coming up get a cash infusion but odds are they'll get relegated.

Going up, you can do some decent business in the portal but if you get relegated, you get picked over like an apple tree at harvest. 

In the last 20 years only six clubs have won the Premier League and four of those won 18 of the titles. Power concentrates.