Dartmouth men's basketball players file petition seeking to unionize

[NT80]

Northwestern University's football team made a bid to form the first union for college athletes in 2014.

It was a move that was met with almost immediate opposition by college conferences and schools that argued it would fundamentally alter a system in which hundreds of millions of dollars are distributed annually to conferences and schools.

The move ultimately ended in August 2015 with the NLRB board ruling unanimously that creating a new system of union and nonunion college teams would lead to different standards from school to school. It said a system with varied money for players and things like practice time would create competitive imbalance.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/38401080/dartmouth-basketball-players-file-petition-seeking-unionize

[UNTLifer]

[GMoney]

NOOOOOOO!

[MrAlien]

The NIL money is coming in from so many different entities, even players on the same team are getting money from different places.  Some of the money is donated other come from endorsement deals, a union would have very little commonality for those involved.  The people handing out the money do not want to deal with a union, and will stop handing out money.  

[NT80]

I feel the NIL and Portal and Realignment are all pushing college athletics to a place more like paid minor leagues for some sports (football and basketball).  In order to try to achieve parity, the same basic financial treatment of all players in all programs will need to be agreed on.

Program levels determined by payroll and benefits....not really a good thing for amateur sports.

[BillySee58]

On 9/15/2023 at 1:07 PM, UNTLifer said:

Exactly. Institutions > individuals

[TreeFiddy]

28 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:

Exactly. Institutions > individuals

Coach Prime said all his players chose him, not the institution.  Also, when asked, he said he is the best coach in the game right now so...

[DeepGreen]

Unionize Dartmouth basketball?  Good move basketball players.  Do they realize that the union leaders will be the ones that benefit the most financially?  Stupid idea.

[GrandGreen]

On 9/18/2023 at 12:12 PM, DeepGreen said:

Unionize Dartmouth basketball?  Good move basketball players.  Do they realize that the union leaders will be the ones that benefit the most financially?  Stupid idea.

Unless things have changed, the Ivy league does not give out athletic scholarships and all students are financially supported on a "need" basis.  

If that remains true, it is a much different type of situation when compared to other NCAA schools.    

 

[NT80]

26 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

Unless things have changed, the Ivy league does not give out athletic scholarships and all students are financially supported on a "need" basis.  

If that remains true, it is a much different type of situation when compared to other NCAA schools.    

 

"There's a good substantive legal argument many, though not all, college athletes are employees," McCann wrote on X. "Dartmouth is probably not the ideal private school men's team to try this given that they are not a major program and are Ivy League, where there are no athletic scholarships. ... But Dartmouth student workers in dining services are already in a union, so from that lens is a good school."

[greenminer]

5 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

Unless things have changed, the Ivy league does not give out athletic scholarships and all students are financially supported on a "need" basis.  

Harvard is Ivy League...are they not using athletic schollies?

[NT80]

1 hour ago, greenminer said:

Harvard is Ivy League...are they not using athletic schollies?

No. As an Ivy League institution, Harvard does not offer athletic or academic scholarships to students. However, Harvard does provide need-based financial aid to those students who demonstrate financial need.

No, the Ivy League as a group does not award merit, talent, or athletic scholarships to prospective students. Instead, Ivy League colleges offer some of the strongest need-based financial aid programs in the world.

[GrayEagle]

I don't understand how the Ivy League schools are 1-AA if they don't give scholarships.  Division 3 does not award scholarships but all other divisions do.