If ACU Beats us…..

[Cooke County Kid]

How is everyone on this board going to react when ACU beats us?  Let’s see we would be 0-4, wait until the end of a 0-12 season to fire EM.  Because if we don’t beat ACU we will be 0-12.  How does this SH*T happen, we go from bad to worse, can’t even just stay bad. Bad hire, admit it and go forward, cut our loses literally and financially. 

[Cerebus]

[MeanGreenTexan]

6 minutes ago, Cooke County Kid said:

How is everyone on this board going to react when ACU beats us?  Let’s see we would be 0-4, wait until the end of a 0-12 season to fire EM.  Because if we don’t beat ACU we will be 0-12.  How does this SH*T happen, we go from bad to worse, can’t even just stay bad. Bad hire, admit it and go forward, cut our loses literally and financially. 

We actually weren’t “bad”, by UNT’s standards before.   Just… mediocre.

The problem is, we wanted to be better than mediocre, and instead of hiring that guy (whoever he was, some say Justin Fuente, but I guess we’ll never know), we hired the guy to get us back to “bad”. 

[Side.Show.Joe]

8 minutes ago, Cooke County Kid said:

How is everyone on this board going to react when ACU beats us?  Let’s see we would be 0-4, wait until the end of a 0-12 season to fire EM.  Because if we don’t beat ACU we will be 0-12.  How does this SH*T happen, we go from bad to worse, can’t even just stay bad. Bad hire, admit it and go forward, cut our loses literally and financially. 

If nothing is done to correct our issues and we lose to LT and ACU, then we will almost certainly go 0-12. If that is the situation, then Morris won't be the only firing that needs to occur. I just can't see it coming to that. 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

5 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

If we drop next week to latech and then lose to ACU the stage would be set for a likely 0-12 campaign. I think that's what he's saying. 

Are you a paid PR employee of the UNT athletic department? Or is your field access for your little picture taking that important to you? It's one or the other. 

[Matt]

If we lose to ACU, I may have to officially enter the fan transfer portal. 

[TheReal_jayD]

2 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

If we drop next week to latech and then lose to ACU the stage would be set for a likely 0-12 campaign. I think that's what he's saying. 

Are you a paid PR employee of the UNT athletic department? Or is your field access for your little picture taking that important to you? It's one or the other. 

Why don’t you grab a snickers there Ben. 

[Side.Show.Joe]

1 minute ago, TheReal_jayD said:

Why don’t you grab a snickers there Ben. 

jayD, Are you confident we will beat ACU?

[NorthTexasWeLove]

Just now, TheReal_jayD said:

Why don’t you grab a snickers there Ben. 

 I'm good, but I am tired of the country club shenanigans. Just more of the same. All that S needs to be rooted out. 

[TheReal_jayD]

3 minutes ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

jayD, Are you confident we will beat ACU?

No sir. Definitely got some stuff to figure out. 

[Side.Show.Joe]

2 minutes ago, TheReal_jayD said:

No sir. Definitely got some stuff to figure out. 

If, God forbid, we do lose to LA Tech & ACU, what needs to happen?

[TheReal_jayD]

1 minute ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

If, God forbid, we do lose to LA Tech & ACU, what needs to happen?

Bring guys in that fit the schemes. Or change scheme to fit guys. Right now it’s square peg in round hole. On both sides of ball.

[NorthTexasWeLove]

1 minute ago, TheReal_jayD said:

Bring guys in that fit the schemes. Or change scheme to fit guys. Right now it’s square peg in round hole. On both sides of ball.

It ALWAYS needs to be change scheme to fit players while you RECRUIT players to FIT your SCHEME. That's coaching 101. 

[Side.Show.Joe]

Just now, TheReal_jayD said:

Bring guys in that fit the schemes. Or change scheme to fit guys. Right now it’s square peg in round hole. On both sides of ball.

I had my doubts in the off-season. And, from what I've read, I think you did too.

While we were signing an army of WR's, I wondered why there wasn't more of an emphasis on the defensive side of the ball (which is where Seth had most of hie issues). The portal was there for us. We can't bring in new players to fit the scheme now. Why were these issues not addressed over the summer? And, why should fans give Morris/Caponi a pass for not doing their jobs? 

[Cooke County Kid]

The days of issuing passes had better be over, only passes we need are completions!

[jtm0097]

31 minutes ago, Cooke County Kid said:

How is everyone on this board going to react when ACU beats us?  Let’s see we would be 0-4, wait until the end of a 0-12 season to fire EM.  Because if we don’t beat ACU we will be 0-12.  How does this SH*T happen, we go from bad to worse, can’t even just stay bad. Bad hire, admit it and go forward, cut our loses literally and financially. 

I looked back at our records on Wikipedia and 1913 was the last time we went winless. 

The staff needs to make adjustments this week. Maybe we need to have a few different looks and add a few wrinkles to our defensive play calling.

On offense, we ran the ball more which was nice. They need to make better decisions throwing the ball. The INTs were horrible on those 3 drives in the 2nd quarter. Also, no more fades thrown in the end zone on 4th and goal.

[Cerebus]

2 minutes ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

 The portal was there for us.

It was, but Morris wasn't here at the time most of the portal recruiting actually happened.   If you wanted us to make an impact this year, then SL should have been let go earlier so the new coach could 1) defend our guys from getting recruited, and 2) recruited other players actually in the portal.

 

Now that is about the only slack I am willing to cut EM.  The rest of the complaints, such as staff make up, scheme selection, game planning, in game adjustment, etc?  Those all have some (to a lot of) validity. 

[Side.Show.Joe]

Just now, Cerebus said:

It was, but Morris wasn't here at the time most of the portal recruiting actually happened.   If you wanted us to make an impact this year, then SL should have been let go earlier so the new coach could 1) defend our guys from getting recruited, and 2) recruited other players actually in the portal.

 

Now that is about the only slack I am willing to cut EM.  The rest of the complaints, such as staff make up, scheme selection, game planning, in game adjustment, etc?  Those all have some (to a lot of) validity. 

And many of us on this board wanted Littrell gone long before the end of last season. The timing of Littrell's firing is on Wren and Smatresk. 

[NT80]

Hayden Fry's first two games coaching at North Texas in 1973...

vs UTA = loss 7-31

vs Memphis = loss 3-24

.............................................

Eric Morris' first two games coaching at Incarnate Word in 2018...

vs New Mexico = loss 30-62

vs UNT = loss 16-58

..........................................

The point is, it takes time for a program turnaround....

[TheReal_jayD]

17 minutes ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

I had my doubts in the off-season. And, from what I've read, I think you did too.

While we were signing an army of WR's, I wondered why there wasn't more of an emphasis on the defensive side of the ball (which is where Seth had most of hie issues). The portal was there for us. We can't bring in new players to fit the scheme now. Why were these issues not addressed over the summer? And, why should fans give Morris/Caponi a pass for not doing their jobs? 

I voiced my concerns to @Harry multiple times. We grabbed some very talented younger kids on defense. But I think could have used 5-7 guys that could contribute day one. 

[Side.Show.Joe]

3 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Hayden Fry's first two games coaching at North Texas in 1973...

vs UTA = loss 7-31

vs Memphis = loss 3-24

.............................................

Eric Morris' first two games coaching at Incarnate Word in 2018...

vs New Mexico = loss 30-62

vs UNT = loss 16-58

..........................................

The point is, it takes time for a program turnaround....

The difference is.... we didn't need a turnaround.

It's like taking a '69 Camero in to have a 396 installed, but when you pick it up, the mechanic took your 302 out and replaced it with a 289 from a mustang. The sh!t don't fit and it ain't what you asked for. You'd fire that mechanic, right?

Our program didn't need a complete rebuild. We just needed an upgrade. Now, we are in a rebuild, because our coaching discissions have been awful. Morris screwed up. It's really that simple. 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

10 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Hayden Fry's first two games coaching at North Texas in 1973...

vs UTA = loss 7-31

vs Memphis = loss 3-24

.............................................

Eric Morris' first two games coaching at Incarnate Word in 2018...

vs New Mexico = loss 30-62

vs UNT = loss 16-58

..........................................

The point is, it takes time for a program turnaround....

I was unaware we're in a turnaround. Littrell wasn't fires for a turnaround. Morris wasn't hired for a turn around. The AD didn't imply this is a turnaround project. And Eric Morris spoke as a matter of factly about success. 

[Green Lantern]

4 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

I was unaware we're in a turnaround. Littrell wasn't fires for a turnaround. Morris wasn't hired for a turn around. The AD didn't imply this is a turnaround project. And Eric Morris spoke as a matter of factly about success. 

Need to track it down but believe he said something to the effect of this being an AAC Championship contender calibre roster. 
 

Not accepting the “rebuilding” narrative some are trying to push. This is unacceptable.

[Udomann]

Hell, we took their QB and now we are worried about losing to them. I'm not even sure this is Dodge level of bad.

In 5 years we might be talking about the Morris era in the same breath as Mcnulty/Greer @UT

[TreeFiddy]

1 hour ago, jtm0097 said:

I looked back at our records on Wikipedia and 1913 was the last time we went winless. 

The staff needs to make adjustments this week. Maybe we need to have a few different looks and add a few wrinkles to our defensive play calling.

On offense, we ran the ball more which was nice. They need to make better decisions throwing the ball. The INTs were horrible on those 3 drives in the 2nd quarter. Also, no more fades thrown in the end zone on 4th and goal.

Our QB, who was benched at halftime, was our leading rusher.  Let that sink in for a minute.