Go get Gary Patterson!

[Hunter Green]

I read he has stepped away from UT. Let him fix our defense and then be the next coach in waiting. 

 

[TreeFiddy]

Ray Mendoza would be an improvement at DC.

How does a coaching staff show up to the season this unprepared?  How does an AD allow a coaching staff show up to the season this unprepared?

[GMG_Dallas]

I posted this in another thread this morning. It's reported Patterson stepped away from UT to spend more time with family. He's down the road in Fort Worth! Go get him!

[greenminer]

3 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

I posted this in another thread this morning. It's reported Patterson stepped away from UT to spend more time with family. He's down the road in Fort Worth! Go get him!

If he's in FW, was he ever really around UT?

[greenjoe]

When Todd Dodge was here there were a good many Southlake residents  that came to the game just to see him.  Can you imagine how many Ft Worth people would come to Denton to watch Gary Patterson ?

[GMG_Dallas]

7 minutes ago, greenminer said:

If he's in FW, was he ever really around UT?

He was spending much of his time in Austin. Coming to UNT as assistant of some sort means he can live at home in Fort Worth full time.

[Pavlovs Eagle]

Patterson has been tweeting pics of himself tailgating at TCU games since W1 saying it's the first time he's done it in decades.  I have a hard time seeing him walking away from retirement and TCU tailgates.  He truly loves the Frogs despite how they treated him at the end.

Honestly they may ask for him back with how they looked the last two weeks.

[Cerebus]

50 minutes ago, Hunter Green said:

I read he has stepped away from UT. Let him fix our defense and then be the next coach in waiting. 

 

The ding on Patterson in his last few years at TCU was that he didn't like to recruit and has publicly been outspoken against the transfer portal.  TCU went and got Dykes specifically because he was a heavy recruiter and loved the transfer portal. 

 

[BBA1989]

Someone should at least knock on the door and talk to Patterson.  The answer is always no unless you ask.  

[Cerebus]

4 minutes ago, BBA1989 said:

Someone should at least knock on the door and talk to Patterson.  The answer is always no unless you ask.  

As what, defensive coordinator?  Special assistant?  Something along those lines I am all for.

He can't be a head coach unless he is willing to recruit and especially recruit the portal, something TCU fans said he would not do. 

[MeanGreen4Life1998]

I’d love this but it won’t happen

[TreeFiddy]

7 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

As what, defensive coordinator?  Special assistant?  Something along those lines I am all for.

He can't be a head coach unless he is willing to recruit and especially recruit the portal, something TCU fans said he would not do. 

Yes, as a consultant.  Have him come in and evaluate what the F is going on and provide his feedback.  AD needs to know if this is a legit FBS coaching staff or if they are as outmatched as they appear.

[GMG_Dallas]

20 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

As what, defensive coordinator?  Special assistant?  Something along those lines I am all for.

He can't be a head coach unless he is willing to recruit and especially recruit the portal, something TCU fans said he would not do. 

Special assistant. Honestly wouldn't even care if he still went to TCU tailgates as long as it didn't conflict with our games.

[meaniegreenie]

1 hour ago, Cerebus said:

The ding on Patterson in his last few years at TCU was that he didn't like to recruit and has publicly been outspoken against the transfer portal.  TCU went and got Dykes specifically because he was a heavy recruiter and loved the transfer portal. 

 

We don't need him to recruit since we've got the "Receipt Bringer" handling that.

[GrayEagle]

The one good thing about this staff is they are good recruiters.  I'd hate to lose the good recruiters if they are good coaches also.

[ntmeangreen11]

8 minutes ago, GrayEagle said:

The one good thing about this staff is they are good recruiters.  I'd hate to lose the good recruiters if they are good coaches also.

I believe we have more coaches on staff who can recruit than ever before, at the same time we've invested in the staff behind the scenes for positive results. What we haven't done to my knowledge is figure out our NIL. I believe the first collective folded and it's being managed by a third party now if I'm not wrong. That has to be a part of the equation moving forward.

If we had made this investment in recruiting staff a decade ago with the old rules I'm sure we would have a top 60 class right now but present day college football is pay to play. Like it or not this is the business of talent acquisition and retention, 365 days a year, it's no longer about finding the right fit for your system to develop 3+ years. In my opinion you could trim three or four positions from the recruiting staff and offer ten portal guys 20k a year each. 

As for Gary Patterson, sure, doubt it would ever happen in any capacity though.

[greenminer]

Absolutely on board with GP on our staff as a consultant/assistant.

[Mike Jackson]

Assistant HC and DC.  With this supposedly good recruiting staff he would not have to spend a lot of energy recruiting.  Maybe evaluate having a transfer portal scout/coordinator/evaluator in addition to regular recruiting staff.

Edited September 11, 2023 by Mike Jackson

[James]

DO. IT.

[Udomann]

2 hours ago, GrayEagle said:

The one good thing about this staff is they are good recruiters.  I'd hate to lose the good recruiters if they are good coaches also.

Problem is, we had a talented roster last year that is being wasted now. Doesn't matter how well you recruit if you can't teach

[DentonLurker]

I love the idea of bringing in someone like Patterson as some kind of special assistant to the head coach. Texas State did that with David Bailiff, former HFC there and at Rice. I think these young coaches would benefit from and elder statesman having his pulse on the program.

[El Paso Eagle]

47 minutes ago, Udomann said:

Problem is, we had a talented roster last year that is being wasted now. Doesn't matter how well you recruit if you can't teach

Last year with Seth, there were complaints that we did not have the talent to compete in the American. The complaint is that we have the talent and are not utilizing it. I'm not saying Morris has not started very poorly, but we need to get together on the talent level at some point.

[El Paso Eagle]

43 minutes ago, DentonLurker said:

I love the idea of bringing in someone like Patterson as some kind of special assistant to the head coach. Texas State did that with David Bailiff, former HFC there and at Rice. I think these young coaches would benefit from and elder statesman having his pulse on the program.

If something like this were to happen (and I don't think it will), I could see Morris reaching out to PB. He's familiar with many of the players and has the experience to work with different schemes.

[NT91]

No money.

[UNTLifer]

3 hours ago, NT91 said:

No money.

Really?  What are we getting from the AAC from media rights?  Whatever it is, it is more than the $2.50 we were getting in CUSA.