Talks with Army progressing

Tommy Gadberry · September 7, 2023

Tommy Gadberry · September 7, 2023

Army-Navy football game staying on CBS through 2028

The Army-Navy football rivalry will remain in its current television home until at least 2028 thanks to an agreement between the service academies and CBS Sports announced Thursday.

Terms weren't disclosed for the 10-year deal, which goes into effect after the current contract expires in 2018. Sources told Forbes that the current deal, inked in 2008, costs the network about $5 million a year, leading the financial publication in 2012 to label it "The most undervalued television deal in sports."

In 2009, the game moved to its new home on the second Saturday of December, making it the only top-tier college football contest on the schedule that day. The shift "allowed us to further shine a spotlight on Army-Navy, as we tell the compelling stories on and off the field of the young people at the service academies," said Sean McManus, chairman of CBS Sports, in a news release announcing the deal.

link: https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-sports/army-navy-game/2017/05/18/army-navy-football-game-staying-on-cbs-through-2028/#:~:text=The Army-Navy football rivalry,current contract expires in 2018.

NT80 · September 7, 2023

1 hour ago, Tommy Gadberry said:

Excellent news.

Jonnyeagle · September 7, 2023

UNT86 · September 7, 2023

I would take them ANY day over SMU.

Please let this happen. Our conference will be stronger for the exchange.

Daddy Dumpsalot · September 7, 2023

Army and Navy are so boring to watch. Handoff....run, handoff other side...run, option...run. BORING.

MeanGreen22 · September 7, 2023

Army for football, VCU for basketball. Let's do this.

Green Otaku · September 7, 2023

VCU and Dayton are the 2 being talked about as the non-football members. I don't know enough about either to pick which I'd prefer.

MeanGreen22 · September 7, 2023

10 minutes ago, Green Otaku said:

VCU and Dayton are the 2 being talked about as the non-football members. I don't know enough about either to pick which I'd prefer.

That’s extremely tough tbh. I will say Dayton has a DEEP fanbase. Regularly a top 25 team in attendance.

bstnsportsfan3 · September 7, 2023

29 minutes ago, Green Otaku said:

VCU and Dayton are the 2 being talked about as the non-football members. I don't know enough about either to pick which I'd prefer.

We should be happy with either one. Both great programs! VCU fits geographically. Dayton a little less but might be a bigger fan base overall. Both great

NT80 · September 7, 2023

22 minutes ago, MeanGreen22 said:

That’s extremely tough tbh. I will say Dayton has a DEEP fanbase. Regularly a top 25 team in attendance.

I think Dayton has a more National brand. We could play them in the Charleston Tourney second game, either them or LSU.

MCMLXXX · September 7, 2023

3 hours ago, MeanGreen22 said:

Army for football, VCU for basketball. Let's do this.

Why would we need a basketball add? If we have east/west divisions it might make sense, but otherwise 13 teams would be fine. Before we joined there were 11 teams.

NT80 · September 7, 2023

Army fan forum thread. About half want to join the AAC, other half like being Indy...

https://academywars.com/awforums/viewtopic.php?t=7840

Edited September 7, 2023 by NT80

Jonnyeagle · September 7, 2023

Jonnyeagle · September 7, 2023

https://www.si.com/college/group-five/aac/army-football-coach-jeff-monken-addresses-aac-rumors-west-point-black-knights-conference-realignment

cousin oliver · September 7, 2023

I mean I haven't seen anyone give a good reason as to why we wouldn't want Army.

emmitt01 · September 8, 2023

10 hours ago, Green Otaku said:

VCU and Dayton are the 2 being talked about as the non-football members. I don't know enough about either to pick which I'd prefer.

Both would be quality basketball adds, but Dayton would be my preference

GrayEagle · September 8, 2023

15 hours ago, Daddy Dumpsalot said:

Army and Navy are so boring to watch. Handoff....run, handoff other side...run, option...run. BORING.

I'm sure that's why Army-Navy is one of the most-watched games every year.

Arkstfan · September 8, 2023

Army is the ONLY football brand of significance east of the Great Plains left in play.

If it ain't Army the pool is a bunch of programs that are median AAC quality or worse.

Sun Belt has Georgia State and ODU and hold your head right you can put Texas State in the pool.

CUSA has FIU and can good faith argue MTSU/Nashville. Liberty is the biggest brand though not an urban(ish) state school like most of the league.

MAC has Buffalo (who is in the AAU), Toledo and well sure NIU is technically in the Chicago TV market. Can sort of claim Indianapolis with Ball State or Ann Arbor/Detroit with Eastern Michigan but yeah it's Buffalo and Toledo that actually fit the model.

No one in the is anything more than a spot filler and question is the spot in the middle or somewhere down at the bottom.

Edited September 8, 2023 by Arkstfan

Arkstfan · September 8, 2023

9 hours ago, GrayEagle said:

I'm sure that's why Army-Navy is one of the most-watched games every year.

It is usually the only college game available to watch. Move it to say Thanksgiving and let's see how it does.

NT80 · September 8, 2023

30 minutes ago, Arkstfan said:

Army is the ONLY football brand of significance east of the Great Plains left in play.

If it ain't Army the pool is a bunch of programs that are median AAC quality or worse.

Sun Belt has Georgia State and ODU and hold your head right you can put Texas State in the pool.

CUSA has FIU and can good faith argue MTSU/Nashville. Liberty is the biggest brand though not an urban(ish) state school like most of the league.

MAC has Buffalo (who is in the AAU), Toledo and well sure NIU is technically in the Chicago TV market. Can sort of claim Indianapolis with Ball State or Ann Arbor/Detroit with Eastern Michigan but yeah it's Buffalo and Toledo that actually fit the model.

No one in the is anything more than a spot filler and question is the spot in the middle or somewhere down at the bottom.

Yes, Army has a National following and brand, those others mentioned are not even close. Probably because of Servicemen around the world and all the Army/Navy National games every year. But not so much because they have been that great in football.

Tommy Gadberry · September 8, 2023

I hope they can land Army they really are a national treasure.

MeanGreenGlory · September 8, 2023

If the AAC gets Army and VCU, I think Aresco has us positioned well when the ACC inevitably explodes. I wrote a thread about it here:

If the ACC is able to stay together when the top brands leave and backfill, SMU may block us from the list of invitations which would leave us in a mediocre version of CUSA 3.0. That would suck.

However, if Aresco has a healthy media deal to lure the middle-of-the-pack brands to the AAC, he could effectively kill the ACC and leave SMU behind forcing them to join CUSA, Sun Belt, or go independent.

Edited September 13, 2023 by MeanGreenGlory

greenminer · September 8, 2023

On 9/7/2023 at 9:31 AM, Daddy Dumpsalot said:

Army and Navy are so boring to watch. Handoff....run, handoff other side...run, option...run. BORING.

When we go to war, it's good to know you're the one that wants to get your hair right.

MeanGreenTeeth · September 8, 2023

On 9/7/2023 at 11:55 AM, NT80 said:

I think Dayton has a more National brand. We could play them in the Charleston Tourney second game, either them or LSU.

Interesting. I didn't know Dayton had such a big following. On paper VCU looks like it's been the more successful program of the two over the last couple decades.