Jump to content

With SMU leaving I am concerned

cousin oliver

By cousin oliver
in Conference ReAlignment

 Share

Recommended Posts

cousin oliver Grand Master

cousin oliver

Posted
Posted

Where do we go from here?  Again, SMU did everything in their power to not be associated with us in any way.  And now their wish has been granted and they have joined a power conference.  What happens now?  I am very fearful that the Mountain West or PAC2 now will join in some way and we will be left behind once again.  Please talk me off the ledge.

  • Upvote 1
  • Eye Roll 8
  • Downvote 4
ChristopherRyanWilkes Enthusiast

ChristopherRyanWilkes

Posted
Posted

This is actually not worse case scenario. If all of this played out differently, we could have lost a lot more teams, and would have been really reeling. At this point, we are decently positioned. If SMU is the only team that leaves, and the conference is stuck at 13 teams, so be it. It was a little awkward having two DFW teams in the same conference anyways. Best case scenario we either join up in a new "best of G5" conference in the Pac-12, or add Washington State and Oregon State to the AAC. Even though geographically MWC makes more sense for them, we can offer more money. The main deal either way is we need to find ourselves competitive for that token G5 playoff spot by being in the best G5 conference. My fear would be that MWC really pulls away with additions of Oregon State and Washington State as well, but even in that scenario, with teams like Memphis, Navy, Tulane etc. still in tow I think we can still be competitive. Buckle up, now comes the fun part for us. 

  • Upvote 2
  • Thanks 1
JT Hammons Proficient

JT Hammons

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, ChristopherRyanWilkes said:

This is actually not worse case scenario. If all of this played out differently, we could have lost a lot more teams, and would have been really reeling. At this point, we are decently positioned. If SMU is the only team that leaves, and the conference is stuck at 13 teams, so be it. It was a little awkward having two DFW teams in the same conference anyways. Best case scenario we either join up in a new "best of G5" conference in the Pac-12, or add Washington State and Oregon State to the AAC. Even though geographically MWC makes more sense for them, we can offer more money. The main deal either way is we need to find ourselves competitive for that token G5 playoff spot by being in the best G5 conference. My fear would be that MWC really pulls away with additions of Oregon State and Washington State as well, but even in that scenario, with teams like Memphis, Navy, Tulane etc. still in tow I think we can still be competitive. Buckle up, now comes the fun part for us. 

Agreed.  Now we need to hope that ESPN and Aresco can work out a deal for the 2 left behinds and maybe pick off the Mountain West of their better markets.

DentonLurker Veteran

DentonLurker

Posted
Posted
6 minutes ago, cousin oliver said:

and they have joined a power conference

Just give it a couple of years. I don't think there's any way the B10/SEC let the ACC remain a "power conference." As a matter of fact, I give it 1-2 years before the B10/SEC pluck the schools they want and the ACC ends up in the same boat as the P12.

My prediction for the future

  • The B10/SEC pluck the best of ACC schools
  • The B10/SEC break off from the rest of FBS
  • They create their own rules around paying players
  • They create a similar structure to the NFL with conferences and divisions
  • They end up with their own playoffs
  • They crown their own national champion

At that point, I think the rest of the conferences and the ACC leftovers (like SMU) go back to being more regional and playing in a separate playoff system.

  • Upvote 1
  • Thanks 1
GMG_Dallas Grand Master

GMG_Dallas

Posted
Posted (edited)

I don't understand the concern. Who cares about SMU. They'll struggle to be 6-6 and won't regularly win more than 10 in basketball in the ACC.

The PAC 2 won't join the MWC. Not enough money and limited visibility.

Edit to add: if anything, this reinforces the notion that geography doesn't matter. Oregon and Washington to Texas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana for an AAC West division isn't so far-fetched anymore. The beauty in all this is that the other AAC schools such as Tulane, Memphis, USF have no potential landing spots. The ACC and BIG 12s expansions this summer have solidified the AAC (Minus SMU).

Edited by GMG_Dallas
  • Upvote 2
UNTFan23 Community Regular

UNTFan23

Posted
Posted
Just now, untjim1995 said:

We should cancel our series with them, but we won’t. 

Series was likely canceled when we joined the AAC.

  • Upvote 2
Green Lantern Mentor

Green Lantern

Posted
Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

We should cancel our series with them, but we won’t. 

Agree. UTSA, Rice, Tulsa, Tulane ect. should also refuse to schedule them in the future. Use it as an opportunity to lock them out of Texas and surrounding state based games.
 

We get nothing out of our series with them. 

Edited by Green Lantern
  • Upvote 1
  • Eye Roll 1
Matt from A700 Grand Master

Matt from A700

Posted
Posted
41 minutes ago, UNTFan23 said:

Series was likely canceled when we joined the AAC.

Yeah, SMU doesn't have many future nonconference games scheduled, but considering our future schedules, we wouldn't be able to play annually again until 2030, with a couple of games sprinkled in for 2025 and 2028.

UNTcrazy727 Grand Master

UNTcrazy727

Posted
Posted
30 minutes ago, SMU2006 said:

Pretty sure its going to be the other way around.

Y'all are going to need "winnable" games to get to bowl eligibility and I think your AD loves that we help fill up your stadium. I don't think SMU would be against playing UNT in OOC. But like others have said, the series was cancelled when we joined the AAC and we don't have any OOC openings until 2030. This year's game will be the last for a long time. 

  • Popular Post
NorthTexasWeLove Grand Master

NorthTexasWeLove

Posted
  • Popular Post
Posted
10 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

Y'all are going to need "winnable" games to get to bowl eligibility and I think your AD loves that we help fill up your stadium. I don't think SMU would be against playing UNT in OOC. But like others have said, the series was cancelled when we joined the AAC and we don't have any OOC openings until 2030. This year's game will be the last for a long time. 

There is zero reason to play SMU. It's a lose/lose for UNT. 

 

  • Upvote 9
SMU2006 Mentor

SMU2006

Posted
Posted
21 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

Y'all are going to need "winnable" games to get to bowl eligibility and I think your AD loves that we help fill up your stadium. I don't think SMU would be against playing UNT in OOC. But like others have said, the series was cancelled when we joined the AAC and we don't have any OOC openings until 2030. This year's game will be the last for a long time. 

We already have a better NIL and transfer portal class than most of the ACC including Wake, Duke, BC, Syracuse, NC State, and UVA.

I do not think we'll keep UNT on the schedule but I wouldn't mind it.  Easy travel and fun for the region.

  • Upvote 2
  • Downvote 2
untjim1995 Grand Master

untjim1995

Posted
Posted
24 minutes ago, SMU2006 said:

We already have a better NIL and transfer portal class than most of the ACC including Wake, Duke, BC, Syracuse, NC State, and UVA.

I do not think we'll keep UNT on the schedule but I wouldn't mind it.  Easy travel and fun for the region.

Welp, see ya later…

keith Veteran

keith

Posted
Posted

I know P5 isn't necessarily a "thing" any more, but WSU and OSU are now the first two to be kicked out of the club and they are not likely to be the last.  I think the biggest threat to the AAC and UNT in particular (and it's diminishing daily) is if WSU and OSU were somehow able to pull a rabbit out of the hat and reconstitute the PAC with some collection of schools from the MWC and AAC (or all of the MWC schools) and keep all the benefits and privileges that go along with it.  

rcade Veteran

rcade

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

There is zero reason to play SMU. It's a lose/lose for UNT. 

The Safeway Bowl isn't a lose-lose when we're beating them. I still want to see us go to Not That Gerald Ford Stadium and put another slobber knocker on them like 43-6 in 2014.

Aquila_Viridis Rising Star

Aquila_Viridis

Posted
Posted

The fact that stupid conference is still called the Atlantic Coast indicates how stupid they are and all this is. More stupidness will come from it. I am not concerned at all about avoiding stupidness. Any prior involvement with smu was stupid and we should learn from prior stupid mistakes. Sadly their stupid people will come on here to proclaim their superiority. Just block or otherwise avoid their stupidness.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Tell a friend

    Love GoMeanGreen.com? Tell a friend!

  • What's going on Mean Green?

    1. 0

      IF we have to keep Morris 🤢

      I would have already fired Morris but if he stays it needs to be with several conditions. 1) hand over play calling duties to an OC, either bringing in someone or elevating Davis or Cobbs to the position. (I think Davis already has the title but we know it is meaningless). 2) bring in a new ST coach 3) replace the strength and conditioning staff. Too many injuries this season and the team is gassed by the end of the game and getting steamrolled. 4) new DC needs to run a system that can stop the run and must be able to adapt throughout the season to account for opponents and personnel losses. And all of the above needs to be overseen by the AD’s office. And no contracts for more than one year. Obviously this means replacing most of the staff, which at its core means we should really fire Morris and bring in an experienced HC who already knows how to build a staff. But if we are being cheap, at least the assistants don’t require buy outs. I would also like to see the AD renegotiate Morris’ contract to reduce the base salary/buyout and increase the incentives for accomplishments, including bowl wins and championships.
      97and03 in Mean Green Football
    2. 22

      Eric Morris needs to go

      I am torn on what to do with EM, but I know he needs to go. Many say we need a HC with head coaching experience at the FBS level. I know there are HCs at other FBS programs doing more with less, but would they come to a place where historically it's difficult to win consistently and risk it all if their eye is ultimately on a power conference job? Then if you take a P4 conference former HC, they have most likely been fired and they may not get the mojo back like Tom Herman at FAU or Charlie Strong. So, if that is the case where do we go? Many are saying no FCS HC or no more coordinators who have not been a HC at this level. Again where do we go if not those type of guys? My thought is that you may have to hire that guy that this board has been reluctant to go after. That's the guys who have had issues somewhere else and that's why they are no longer where they are. Lane Kiffin had issues and FAU gave him the chance to resurrect his career. Alabama gave Sarkisian (spelling) a chance to resurrect his career and he is doing good things at Texas. We have tried a lot of things, but we have not tried that route of HCs with some skeletons in their past. I feel that if that coach wins, people will forget about their past. I am sure people at Texas have forgotten about what went down with Sark at USC. Just my opinion because we have been striking out for a long time on HCs.
      Venson in Mean Green Football
    3. 36

      I hope we lose to Temple

      Geeze yall are so f’ing negative all damn time
      NTSU52 in Mean Green Football
    4. 8

      In case you’re a Yeti collector

      YETI has a collegiate collection. I didn't get a chance to snag one of the above, so I'm hoping that UNT will become available on their website. Eventually?
      greenminer in Mean Green Football
    5. 36

      I hope we lose to Temple

      You mean the playbook that famously can be drawn out on a napkin?
      greenminer in Mean Green Football

  • Popular Contributors

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      15,479
    • Most Online
      1,865
    meangreen0015
    Newest Member
    meangreen0015
    Joined

  • Most Points

    1. 1
      El Paso Eagle
      El Paso Eagle
      166,979
    2. 2
      NT80
      NT80
      129,958
    3. 3
      KingDL1
      KingDL1
      128,415
    4. 4
      greenminer
      greenminer
      118,595
    5. 5
      TheReal_jayD
      TheReal_jayD
      104,984

  • Biggest Gamblers

    1. 1
      EdtheEagle
      EdtheEagle
      26,589,381
    2. 2
      UNTLifer
      UNTLifer
      4,156,819
    3. 3
      untphd
      untphd
      779,513
    4. 4
      flyonthewall
      flyonthewall
      670,422
    5. 5
      3_n_out
      3_n_out
      578,480
    6. 6
      SteaminWillieBeamin
    7. 7
      cousin oliver
      cousin oliver
      448,120
    8. 8
      meangreenfaninno
    9. 9
      South Texas Green
    10. 10
      outoftown
      outoftown
      314,541

WE BELIEVE IN THE MEAN GREEN!

News

Recruiting

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Please review our full Privacy Policy before using our site.