Is Stanford also offering the ACC to play with no pay?

El Paso Eagle · August 17, 2023

El Paso Eagle · August 17, 2023

NT80 · August 17, 2023

1 hour ago, El Paso Eagle said:

It still costs ACC schools $ to send all sports teams and equipment to California and Texas.

Green Otaku · August 17, 2023

Does every new thought/headline need its own thread? And I'm not trying to single you out, there have been several threads in the last few days that could easily been in the catch all thread.

Edited August 17, 2023 by Green Otaku

greenminer · August 17, 2023

More spoliation on Jim's end.

I have not read anywhere that suggests Stanford is willing to actually do this.

El Paso Eagle · August 17, 2023

2 minutes ago, greenminer said:

More spoliation on Jim's end.

I have not read anywhere that suggests Stanford is willing to actually do this.

I hope Stanford and Cal (hell, even SMU) get into the ACC. That should eliminate additional AAC teams leaving for the PAC4

GMG_Dallas · August 17, 2023

36 minutes ago, NT80 said:

It still costs ACC schools $ to send all sports teams and equipment to California and Texas.

This is why I mostly dismiss the idea of the "top" 4 AAC and 4 MWC joining the existing PAC with a media deal around $10-$15 million per year. The schools generally suggested for the AAC are Tulane, SMU, Memphis, and USF. I just don't see the travel with Memphis and USF as being feasible for the Olympic sports. IMO, if there's to be a merger of some sort with the MWC and AAC, it'll mostly include Texas and Oklahoma schools. Otherwise, I think it'll be a full AAC and Pac merger with a west division to limit the cross-country travel.

Edited August 17, 2023 by GMG_Dallas

MeanGreen22 · August 17, 2023

3 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

I hope Stanford and Cal (hell, even SMU) get into the ACC. That should eliminate additional AAC teams leaving for the PAC4

100% on it. The likelihood we full merge with the Pac4 are very slim.. the likelihood we merge with the Pac2? Substantially higher.

wardly · August 19, 2023

DMN reports that Thursday Stanford told the other 3 remaining members of PAC 4 it had informed ACC that it would be open to joining the conference at greatly reduced or even no media rights for several years. This sounds similar to SMU's approach to the ACC. Once the ACC makes a final decision on Stanford then Cal, OSC,and WSU can move forward. If SMU also gains admittance that's one less AAC program to pluck and it makes more sense for them to join the conference. However none of this makes much sense to me.

wardly · August 19, 2023

1 hour ago, wardly said:

DMN reports that Thursday Stanford told the other 3 remaining members of PAC 4 it had informed ACC that it would be open to joining the conference at greatly reduced or even no media rights for several years. This sounds similar to SMU's approach to the ACC. Once the ACC makes a final decision on Stanford then Cal, OSC,and WSU can move forward. If SMU also gains admittance that's one less AAC program to pluck and it makes more sense for them to join the conference. However none of this makes much sense to me.

Just saw podcast that said CAL also offered to join ACC under same conditions as Sanford and SMU. I am just guessing but perhaps the money these new additions don't take will be passed on to Clemson and FSU to shut them up.

El Paso Eagle · August 20, 2023

12 hours ago, wardly said:

Just saw podcast that said CAL also offered to join ACC under same conditions as Sanford and SMU. I am just guessing but perhaps the money these new additions don't take will be passed on to Clemson and FSU to shut them up.

Cal is the most debt ridden program in football. How does this work?

wardly · August 20, 2023

10 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Cal is the most debt ridden program in football. How does this work?

Beats me. They are upgrading football stadium at cost of mega millions and are between a rock and a hard place. My best guess is while these programs are saying they will join for no media money for 4 or so years what they probably mean is that they will take AAC money and forgo the balance for a specified period. Even though SMU has the cash and is in Dallas I just don't see them getting invited by the ACC. They are a small private school with a small alumni base.

greenminer · August 20, 2023

1 hour ago, wardly said:

Even though SMU has the cash and is in Dallas I just don't see them getting invited by the ACC. They are a small private school with a small alumni base.

The one thing that kept coming up the most this past week, amongst all these rumors, is a trio of schools having momentum for ACC…and it includes SMU.

Could be nothing. Could be something

NT80 · August 20, 2023

1 hour ago, greenminer said:

The one thing that kept coming up the most this past week, amongst all these rumors, is a trio of schools having momentum for ACC…and it includes SMU.

Could be nothing. Could be something

The ACC has 14 football-playing members now, not counting Notre Dame, which plays a few ACC teams yearly. Adding 2 more members like Cal and Stanford they could go to 16 for football and allow for divisions. Adding only Stanford and Cal would also allow a nice easy travel package to the west coast bay area of 2 games per Olympic sport then return.

Edited August 20, 2023 by NT80

wardly · August 20, 2023

I just don't think SMU brings value to the ACC at the same level as Stanford. Also I don't know why the ACC needs both Cal and Stanford, especially Cal, but we will see how things play out this week.

Tommy Gadberry · August 20, 2023

1 hour ago, wardly said:

I just don't think SMU brings value to the ACC at the same level as Stanford. Also I don't know why the ACC needs both Cal and Stanford, especially Cal, but we will see how things play out this week.

You don’t get it, SMU is willing to pay their way in and forgo millions in revenues. It’s obscene but its SMUt.