PAC 12 Realignment Talk Mega Thread (All 12 threads merged)

[meanrob]

The interesting thing in all this is the play seems to be extend invitations soon after losing teams. The Big 12, AAC, Sun Belt, and even CUSA didn’t wait long. The PAC took a wait and see approach and both their members and TV got antsy about it. Bit of a simplification and the PAC may have thought they were too high and mighty for G5 teams but if they add four right after the LA schools left, maybe it doesn’t come to this. 

[keith]

If all this happened a couple years ago and the Big12 was able to bring in Arizona, Arizona St and Utah, would they have ever gone after Houston, UCF and Cincinnati?  Timing is everything.

[ColoradoEagle]

4 minutes ago, wardly said:

Cal, Stanford, OSU and WSU. These 4 programs keep the PAC 12 alive and reload with programs from the MWC plus SMU. Lets give them SDSU, Fresno St. ,Colorado State, Boise St., AFA, UNLV, and Utah St. 

Not even half of those would be able to/want to pay their exit fees. I also don't think a lot of people realize that with OSU and WSU, you take away their current media deal money and they're AAC level schools. No reason to jump conferences for them.

[meangreenbob]

2 minutes ago, keith said:

If all this happened a couple years ago and the Big12 was able to bring in Arizona, Arizona St and Utah, would they have ever gone after Houston, UCF and Cincinnati?  Timing is everything.

I don’t believe so. Lucky break. 

[El Paso Eagle]

40 minutes ago, meanrob said:

Seems Crow was a fan of Larry Scott to the very end. No wonder he wants to stay on a sinking ship. 

In all of these money deals, doesn't the PAC owe a lot of money to their previous media partners?

[meanrob]

CBS is reporting that Washington is wavering. I don’t see how you say no and can’t think of any team moving to a better conference and regretting it. You make the money work somehow. 

[meanrob]

2 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

In all of these money deals, doesn't the PAC owe a lot of money to their previous media partners?

They owe $50 mil to Comcast. Not sure of the terms of how they are paying it back. 

[greenminer]

13 hours ago, Cr1028 said:

Welcome to the G5 life coach.

Bingo.

While everyone is dancing around the state of this conference, this is really just a part of a massive move we are seeing, ultimately the state of CFB (D1) will be SEC/B10 and everyone else.

[keith]

So, the heart and soul of the Pac12 is....wait for it.....Oregon St and Washington St?  That's enough to maintain the conference?  Would it keep its tie to the Rose Bowl?  Internet gold.

[MrAlien]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I do think the MWC exit fee does change at a certain date.  So I think they will still have some interest from MWC schools like SDSU and UNLV.  Plus the conference still has their own Pac12 TV network, and can self stream.  Gonzaga is also an option

[greenminer]

This is a fan account, I see this as no more than a wishlist.

[NorthTexasWeLove]

17 minutes ago, MrAlien said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but I do think the MWC exit fee does change at a certain date.  So I think they will still have some interest from MWC schools like SDSU and UNLV.  Plus the conference still has their own Pac12 TV network, and can self stream.  Gonzaga is also an option

It goes from 34M to 17M after '24 I believe. Still a significant amount even after being cut in half. Pair that with not knowing what a new conference deal would look like it's unlikely the MWC schools budge. 

[meanrob]

11 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

It goes from 34M to 17M after '24 I believe. Still a significant amount even after being cut in half. Pair that with not knowing what a new conference deal would look like it's unlikely the MWC schools budge. 

It’s something like if you want to give a year’s notice, you have to give it before June 30th and it’s 17 million. After the date a year’s notice it is 34 mil. 
SDSU could’ve given notice after June 30th and paid 17 mil but they wouldn’t join until 2025. That’s my reading. 

[Victorygreen04]

2 hours ago, Tommy Gadberry said:

I can share what works for me. On desktop you open the tweet, meaning click it so it is the main thing on the page.  They copy the address bar and paste here.

on mobile iphone you open it and click 

and then click copy link and paste here.

Thank you 

[rcade]

On 8/2/2023 at 8:47 AM, Rudy said:

 

Bally's is going bankrupt because they can't get enough subscribers for their service which carries pro sports teams.  Good luck Apple  🤣

Apple is in good shape. It has Messi.

[Victorygreen04]

 

Edited August 4, 2023 by Victorygreen04

[jtm0097]

There's the grenade that just blew up the PAC 12.

[MeanGreen22]

RIP Pac-12

[meanrob]

Now it gets really interesting. 

[Green Otaku]

Oregon and Washington are the lynch pins of the PAC, if they go it's done. A conference of Ore, OSU, Wash, WSU, Cal, Stan, ASU, and Utah looks like it can survive, even if the lost ASU and Utah. Without those two the whole thing falls apart. 

[keith]

Assuming, Arizona, Arizona St and Utah are gone too, that leaves four remaining in the PAC (Cal, Stanford, Oregon St. and Washington St.).  Not sure that's enough to rebuild around.  So assuming the PAC is dead and it just a matter of picking over the remaining carcasses, what's the next move for the AAC (if there is one)?  Do we get aggressive?  If the MWC is able to add 4 previously P5 schools (regardless of who they are IMHO), they would move decidedly up the totem pole.

[El Paso Eagle]

Hang on.....

 

[El Paso Eagle]

Did ASU and Utah cause themselves not to get a full share?

 

 

[Cr1028]

11 hours ago, NT80 said:

No current P5 would volunteer to lose that status and go to a G5 conference.

Any G5 would volunteer to join any current P5 conference, even a dying PAC. 

You must’ve forgotten that the Big East was a “power” conference. For football it is now called the American athletic conference. The Pac12 is about the follow the exact same path. Houston, Memphis, UCF, and SMU all joined the “power conference” Big East for the 2013 season. They got just one season of “power conference” football and then back to g5 status. Joining the Pac would be a mistake. We need to build from what we have.

[El Paso Eagle]

Prediction surely to be wrong.

Cal and Stanford to the American to hobnob with SMU, Tulane, Rice, and SMU for their "shared educational values."

Oregon State and Washington State to the MWC