PAC 12 Realignment Talk Mega Thread (All 12 threads merged)

[Wag Tag]

The ACC is the next PAC12. Again time zones matter. They will survive in a lessor capacity. If only OSU and WSU join, down the road we could cherry pic the MWC.

[NorthTexasWeLove]

21 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

I don't think FSU and Clemson leave if the ACC agrees to reconstruct their TV agreement to give them a bigger share. FSU's main complaint right now is schools like Wake Forest and Boston College get the same amount as money as they do. ESPN has obviously told them adding Stanford and Cal will increase their money. Otherwise, they wouldn't be voting on it. 

The ACC will never be able to pay them. What they're going to get do the SEC and they know that. 

[shaft]

2 hours ago, Wag Tag said:

The ACC is the next PAC12. Again time zones matter. They will survive in a lessor capacity. If only OSU and WSU join, down the road we could cherry pic the MWC.

The ACC and PAC-12 are in very different positions.  The PAC-4's problem is they can't simply raid the MWC to rebuild.  When the SEC & Big 10 raid the ACC ten years from now the ACC will be able to raid the American, Sun Belt and CUSA to rebuild.

[DentonLurker]

27 minutes ago, shaft said:

When the SEC & Big 10 raid the ACC ten years

No way the raid of the ACC is 10 years down the road. I’ll be shocked if it hasn’t happened by the 2025 season.

[Wag Tag]

37 minutes ago, shaft said:

The ACC and PAC-12 are in very different positions.  The PAC-4's problem is they can't simply raid the MWC to rebuild.  When the SEC & Big 10 raid the ACC ten years from now the ACC will be able to raid the American, Sun Belt and CUSA to rebuild.

As stated a lesser capacity! They won’t remain a P5

Edited August 10, 2023 by Wag Tag

[DentonStang]

6 hours ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

Sure. But to say there hasn't been a vote is disingenuous. An official vote won't happen until its known there are enough "Yes" votes. 

We're saying the same thing. Of course they informally made their intentions known.  

 

This whole thing seems to really be about ND, ESPN, and the revenue sharing model. I don't know near enough to understand the why elements. ACC seems to be a backstabbing snake pit of the highest order

Edited August 11, 2023 by DentonStang

[wardly]

4 hours ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

If the rest of the ACC agreed to change the TV payouts so FSU and Clemson get a bigger share I bet they'd be more inclined to vote "Yes" on expansion. 

ESPN said the ACC had 10 votes to expand, 2 short, and they are dropping the idea.

[wardly]

It appears that SDSU wanted to take the 4 PAC teams and cherry pick the MWC and AAC. The MWC said its all of them or none of them, which means they think they have the stick. Also, I have read that the MWC only wants OSU and WSU. Fun to see how it all plays out, but SDSU probably had the right idea.

[UNTLifer]

Poor SDSU. Your dream conference is gone so you are stuck with a bunch that know you really don’t want to be there. They won’t get any favors from the MWC. 

[Jonnyeagle]

So why are we limiting ourself to the Pac4?  
 

I have been saying all along we should go after the cream of the Mountain West schools as well.  This reporter seems to agree there is some value there.
 

 

[NorthTexan95]

If MWC teams won't leave for PAC due to high fees of leaving the conference, why would they make the same move to the AAC?   I don't see any MWC teams leaving the conference. 

[GrayEagle]

36 minutes ago, NorthTexan95 said:

If MWC teams won't leave for PAC due to high fees of leaving the conference, why would they make the same move to the AAC?   I don't see any MWC teams leaving the conference. 

They won't move anywhere until the end of the Spring Semester next year.  When at least the exit fee returns to normal.  Let's say that it returns to the normal $17M; which is still a ridiculous fee for teams that only pull $4M from TV rights.  If the AAC were able to promise them $8-$10M (not everyone; large markets) then it might make it worthwhile to exit if they would recover the exit fee in the second year.  I don't know how many would be willing to do that.  However, if they raised the payout to meet the competition, it's likely that most, if not all, of the Mountain West might stay.

 

 

 

 

[emmitt01]

[SigmaGreen]

17 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

[greenminer]

20 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

[DentonLurker]

Pete Thamel is legit though. If he’s tweeting it, you know there’s truth to it.

[UNTLifer]

50 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

SMU looks so desperate in all of this. They are like the little kid praying by his bed. 

[MeanGreenGlory]

 

[UNTLifer]

4 minutes ago, MeanGreenGlory said:

 

Well done. 

[cousin oliver]

 

[UNTLifer]

13 hours ago, cousin oliver said:

 

They usually do.

 

**I apologize, but it was just too easy.

Edited August 11, 2023 by UNTLifer
Apology

[MrAlien]

SMU does not generate enough media revenue on its own, if given and equal split, existing ACC schools would earn less money.  The thought that SMU will forgo revenue sharing for 5 years would put them at a major deficit compared to schools in the ACC that bring in $40+ million a year in addition to their own donors.  

[C Rod]

8 minutes ago, MrAlien said:

SMU does not generate enough media revenue on its own, if given and equal split, existing ACC schools would earn less money.  The thought that SMU will forgo revenue sharing for 5 years would put them at a major deficit compared to schools in the ACC that bring in $40+ million a year in addition to their own donors.  

Apparently they have a group of donors willing to commit to $200M, spread out over 5 years, to offset the loss in TV revenue. SMU and their fans are in a sad state of desperation.

[UNTcrazy727]

 

 

[bstnsportsfan3]

Is this the longest thread in GMG history?