PAC 12 Realignment Talk Mega Thread (All 12 threads merged)

[NorthTexasWeLove]

  On 8/7/2023 at 2:39 AM, greenminer said:

:Deep breathe.  Wouldn't have Judy.

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Very true. 

If the douches do leave (smu/tulane/memphis/usf), I would love to get Army and AF. Host the president cup games as conference games and have the Navy vs Army game as The American game of the year hosted by the American conference. Snag app st and James Madison. And I think we'd still be better off than cusa as it was. There is a way to still be better. And given that our dude is Aresco and not Judy is d somewhat reassuring. 

[NT93]

  On 8/7/2023 at 1:54 AM, Salsa_Verde said:

Navy has to play in the west division, it was a condition of them joining the AAC. They want to be in the Texas recruiting market. 

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Doesn’t matter.  We’re going to be in CUSA again, except we’ll call it the AAC and we’ll have a good commissioner.

[NorthTexasWeLove]

  On 8/7/2023 at 2:56 AM, NT93 said:

Doesn’t matter.  We’re going to be in CUSA again, except we’ll call it the AAC and we’ll have a good commissioner.

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I think it will be a more competitive version of CUSA. No small markets and no significant amount of dead weight, not to toss a stone in a glass house. 

[NT80]

  On 8/7/2023 at 2:23 AM, jtm0097 said:

 

 

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I don’t see any value in Oregon State to the Big12.   Likewise Cal or Stanford should be offered before SDSU.  

[NorthTexasWeLove]

  On 8/7/2023 at 3:04 AM, NT80 said:

I don’t see any value in Oregon State to the Big12.   Likewise Cal or Stanford should be offered before SDSU.  

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Pound for pound, SDSU is the best athletic program (major sports) on the west coast. With 30M+ a year in a TV deal they could be dangerously competitive in everything. 

[PlummMeanGreen]

I agreed with another alum today for another version of the PAC. He said many of them were even meeting tonight (except UNT was not part of that meeting).🤢

AAC will say goodbye to:

•••SMU (money, money, money & NIL gold•••Tulane (former SEC school)…Rice U (will spend part of their multi-billion endowment if they were in a P5 PAC ??;   UTSA (the big surprise of all because—when they win—San Antonio supports them, SA is a tourist destination city with the Alamo, the River Walk, major college sized stadium that also has a bowl game—sorry, but how many G5 conferences with schools who have 30,000 seat stadiums are part of any discussion for a Power 5 conference?  How about none? Big donors at SMU like Garry Webber saw this & are now taking care of business at G. Ford Stadium.  
🦅  It’s our school so no matter how all this plays out—I’ll still see (some of you) at DATCU Stadium vs the CAL Bears.  •••All we can do in spite of the times we live with all this NCAA non-sense is to keep blooming where planted. 

[C Rod]

 

[southsideguy]

what happened to Washington state?

[Jonnyeagle]

 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

  On 8/7/2023 at 3:14 AM, C Rod said:

 

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Take em all, big12! 

THEN, the AAC can go get the best four G5s available. No reason to stay pat at 14. Wanna be a part of the club gotta act like you belong in the club. 

[NT93]

  On 8/7/2023 at 3:19 AM, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Take em all, big12! 

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[C Rod]

  On 8/7/2023 at 3:19 AM, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Take em all, big12! 

THEN, the AAC can go get the best four G5s available. No reason to stay pat at 14. Wanna be a part of the club gotta act like you belong in the club. 

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[southsideguy]

we can only control what we can control.  Rice is no loss, Smut dont like them anyway.  UTSA they will have no rivalry games.  If they are gone we should not schedule any of them.  SMUT doesn't bring fans to our field as well as Rice.  We have big crowds at our stadium because we love to hate them.  They have big crowds we play that at Ford because we love to hate them.

I am not sure who we pick up to replace them with.  If SDSU goes  maybe it opens the door for some MWC schools.  Regardless of who they get it wont be the PAC12 of old. You think someone will pay for Rice to replace USC and UTSA replace UCLA, SMU to replace Oregon or Washington.  The equation wont be equal.

[El Paso Eagle]

  On 8/7/2023 at 3:08 AM, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Pound for pound, SDSU is the best athletic program (major sports) on the west coast. With 30M+ a year in a TV deal they could be dangerously competitive in everything. 

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This amount assumes they get a Big 12 invite?

[El Paso Eagle]

  On 8/7/2023 at 2:46 AM, C Rod said:

Yormark is going for the kill. 

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If this happens, Washington State will go to the MWC, and Stanford and Cal go independent for football. 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

  On 8/7/2023 at 3:57 AM, El Paso Eagle said:

This amount assumes they get a Big 12 invite?

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That's what the response was to. 

[NT80]

  On 8/6/2023 at 10:49 PM, Green Otaku said:

Another thing people are not talking about is will the PAC withhold conference distribution for the 6 teams leaving this year? Last year it was $37m per team, so will they have $222M to bolster their current teams as well as entice new ones? 

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But the PAC also has at least a couple current legal suits against them for over $50m+ 

[ColoradoEagle]

The only two schools desperate enough and with enough money to be eastern outliers in a MWC 3.0 are SMU and Tulane. 
 

Even still, I don’t think it happens.

[Green Otaku]

  On 8/7/2023 at 5:13 AM, NT80 said:

But the PAC also has at least a couple current legal suits against them for over $50m+ 

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Which ones? I've only ever heard of the comcast overpayment that's $50m. 

[Green Otaku]

  On 8/7/2023 at 12:27 AM, wardly said:

They only need 7 votes .The MWC killed the 16 team WAC so the existing schools have stabbed their brethren in the back before.

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9 votes I think. They need 3/4 of the conference to vote in favor of dissolving the conference. 

[El Paso Eagle]

  On 8/7/2023 at 6:11 AM, ColoradoEagle said:

The only two schools desperate enough and with enough money to be eastern outliers in a MWC 3.0 are SMU and Tulane. 
 

Even still, I don’t think it happens.

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You would think they would both hold off for a possible ACC invite in the next 2 to 3 years

[dodgefan]

With those PAC schools joining the BIG12, recruiting for UNT just got even tougher. Recruiters for those schools, will flood DFW.

[DentonLurker]

  On 8/7/2023 at 11:23 AM, dodgefan said:

With those PAC schools joining the BIG12, recruiting for UNT just got even tougher. Recruiters for those schools, will flood DFW.

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Meh. Those schools are already recruiting DFW.

[DentonLurker]

With the added travel costs with the cross-nation conferences, I'm starting to wonder if a good solution would be to let football and maybe basketball stand on their own while having sub-"conferences" that are more regional for all the other sports. I just don't know how this cross-nation model is going to be sustainable in the long run for sports other than football or basketball. Maybe I'm underestimating the $'s the conference affiliations are going to bring into the schools, but with most schools only balancing budgets with the student tax I just don't see how schools will be able to fund the cross-nation model for long.

[Mike Jackson]

  On 8/5/2023 at 4:52 AM, GrayEagle said:

I'd hate to lose Rice, Tulane, and SMU (there I said it) but that's their decisions.

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I understand why losing SMU would bother a Mean Green fan.  But I don’t get the affinity for Rice and Tulane?  Why do you hate losing them?  It is unfortunate overall but I think the days of smaller private universities playing above FCS will be over by 2032 or shortly after.  So any FBS private university program not in a P5 conference today will be operating at huge disadvantage.  The private schools named for their city or region have a better shot of making it because they gain regional support easier.