NCAA Revenue & Expenses By School

[StealthEagle84]

Found this information somewhat interesting.  UNT ranks at #75, which is ahead of several of our conference counterparts. 

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances

[DentonLurker]

Is total budget really a ranking tool? It doesn’t really give you any insight into the health of a program.

[GrayEagle]

On 6/18/2023 at 11:22 AM, DentonLurker said:

Is total budget really a ranking tool? It doesn’t really give you any insight into the health of a program.

These figures are not the budget; they are the revenue and expenses.  The only problem is that the amount allocated does not state where those funds come from.  

I believe that our allocation comes from student fees, donations, and other income.  We have a very large amount from student fees because our enrollment keeps growing.  So far, I believe that we do not have to take anything from the Universities revenue.  In other words, nothing from the non-athletic funds.  We are relatively solvent as long as our enrollment keeps growing.  We are fortunate there.  Many universities are having a decrease in enrollment.  If that is combined with a decrease in giving, which it usually is, they can have to borrow from funds allocated to other departments to keep athletics solvent.  This chart doesn't tell if the budget is solvent or in a deficit situation which the university must make up.

[DentonLurker]

1 hour ago, GrayEagle said:

These figures are not the budget; they are the revenue and expenses.

I'm curious to know what you consider a budget if revenue and expenses aren't a budget?

[DentonLurker]

Here's the breakdown:

Revenue - $44.477M

Ticket Sales - $1.337M

Contributions - $2.358M

Rights/Licensing - $4.815M

Student Fees - $13.251M

School Funds - $20.075M

Other - $2.638M

Expenses - $44.222M

Coaching/Staff - $16.651M

Scholarships - $6.526M

Facilities/Overhead - $10.337M

Other - $10.706

Edited June 22, 2023 by DentonLurker
Reformat

[Cooke County Kid]

Some way we need to get over the $55 million mark and soon. 

[GrayEagle]

The budget is the estimated income and the estimated expenses.  This statement is supposedly actual income and expenses.

By the way the figures that you furnished only added to $38.694M.  My guess is that the cutoff date is different.

[DentonLurker]

Okay. I apologize for the slight generalization of using the word budget instead of actuals. I think for the purposes of this conversation it’s probably not really that impactful of a distinction.. I can’t imagine that it’s materially different from what was budgeted.

And I just double checked the numbers and they add up. I typed them out from the database linked above.

[outoftown]

12 hours ago, DentonLurker said:

Here's the breakdown:

Revenue - $44.477M

Ticket Sales - $1.337M

Contributions - $2.358M

Rights/Licensing - $4.815M

Student Fees - $13.251M

School Funds - $20.075M

Other - $2.638M

Expenses - $44.222M

Coaching/Staff - $16.651M

Scholarships - $6.526M

Facilities/Overhead - $10.337M

Other - $10.706

So, when it says "school funds" here... is that direct subsidy from the academic side? Is Contributions = donations? I have a hard time believing that is really only 2.5 million

I also noticed that UNT is in the top10 when it comes to "total Allocated" (which includes student contributions).

[GrayEagle]

I don't doubt that for a minute.

[DentonLurker]

2 hours ago, outoftown said:

So, when it says "school funds" here... is that direct subsidy from the academic side?

School funds: Includes both direct and indirect support from the university, including state funds, tuition, tuition waivers etc., as well as federal Work Study amounts for student workers employed by athletics department. It also includes state, municipal, federal and other appropriations for athletics, as well as the value of university-provided support such as administrative services, facilities and grounds maintenance, security, risk management, utilities, depreciation and debt service that is not charged to the athletics department.
 

2 hours ago, outoftown said:

Is Contributions = donations?

Contributions: Includes amounts received directly from individuals, corporations, associations, foundations, clubs or other organizations for the operations of the athletics program. Amounts paid in excess of a ticket’s value. Contributions include cash, marketable securities and in-kind contributions such as dealer-provided cars for staff use. Also includes revenue from preferential seating.

2 hours ago, outoftown said:

I have a hard time believing that is really only 2.5 million

I’m not sure why you wouldn’t believe that. Giving to Athletics has been terrible for a long time.

[97and03]

On 6/21/2023 at 5:30 PM, DentonLurker said:

Here's the breakdown:

Revenue - $44.477M

Ticket Sales - $1.337M

Contributions - $2.358M

Rights/Licensing - $4.815M

Student Fees - $13.251M

School Funds - $20.075M

Other - $2.638M

Expenses - $44.222M

Coaching/Staff - $16.651M

Scholarships - $6.526M

Facilities/Overhead - $10.337M

Other - $10.706

The most important takeaway from the data is that less than ten percent of the budget comes from alumni so they should probably put up or shut up when it comes to their demands about the direction of the program.

 

Edited June 25, 2023 by 97and03

[wardly]

18 hours ago, 97and03 said:

The most important takeaway from the data is that less than ten percent of the budget comes from alumni so they should probably put up or shut up when it comes to their demands about the direction of the program.

 

Historically we don't care what athletics cost as long as we don't have to pay for it. As financial contributors to athletics we are all mouth and no money.[ I include myself in the "WE."]