Did Nixon and Shorter Make the Right Decision?

UNTLifer · May 24, 2023

These things seem to follow Freeze.

https://theshadowleague.com/jarquez-exposed-auburn-suspends-multiple-students-after-sex-tape-of-one-of-its-players-leaked-on-social-media/#:~:text=Sex Tape Leaked With Star,was leaked on social media.

Jonnyeagle · May 24, 2023

No they sure did not.

Rudy · May 24, 2023

Short answer, no.

Long answer, also no.

Hunter Green · May 24, 2023

13 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

These things seem to follow Freeze.

https://theshadowleague.com/jarquez-exposed-auburn-suspends-multiple-students-after-sex-tape-of-one-of-its-players-leaked-on-social-media/#:~:text=Sex Tape Leaked With Star,was leaked on social media.

Does this qualify under NIL rules??

Wag Tag · May 24, 2023

Yes. They believe that each of them can compete at the highest level of college football. This NIL raise also doesn’t hurt. Wish Shorter the best!

MeanGreen13 · May 25, 2023

If it was for money and higher competition, yes. If it was about post-football life and athletic legacy, no. IF they get on the field and make it to the next level, it will be worth it to them. If they don't, they'll hit the real world like any other athlete... maybe with less support from either alumni base.

southsideguy · May 25, 2023

I think Shorter could be good for them if he can stay healthy. I wish he would have stayed.

GrandGreen · May 25, 2023

My guess is it was an obvious decision.

Play football at an at least perceived much higher level with my guess a lot more compensation.

NIL is going to ruin what's left of college football, there is simply no way a AAC or CUSA team is going to be able to keep their best players from teams with more financial support

Okiefan · May 25, 2023

54 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

My guess is it was an obvious decision.

Play football at an at least perceived much higher level with my guess a lot more compensation.

NIL is going to ruin what's left of college football, there is simply no way a AAC or CUSA team is going to be able to keep their best players from teams with more financial support

When a player can transfer to a school and receive a 100K paycheck in addition to free school and monthly stipend, it is better than 99% of the athletes would receive in their first job out of school. In my opinion, playing time may not the first priority for many of these transfer players with only one season left, especially G5 starters moving up. For the COVID extra year players at P5 schools with a strong NIL program, some are not on the 85 scholarship roles anyway. I personally know players following this path. NIL allows them to expand the roster so to speak through payments directly to the player to pay for expenses. Without a strong NIL program, schools are limited and at a tremendous disadvantage.

Edited May 25, 2023 by Okiefan

untphd · May 25, 2023

They left, so they must have thought it was the right decision.

NorthTexasWeLove · May 25, 2023

Who cares. College football is fading. There are now 70 feeder programs. We are one of them. Complete irrelevancy is closing in fast. The casual, even casuals in the state of Texas, soon won't be able to differentiate UNT and Texas A&M-Commerce.

untphd · May 25, 2023

Funny that you should bring up Commerce, they have the best bbq tailgating. A guy I used to work with is from there and has won dozens of bbq awards including chicken, ribs and whole hogs.

greenminer · May 25, 2023

Why should we be in the wrong? They're the ones who suck.

Side.Show.Joe · May 29, 2023

In the short term, yes, they made the right choice. They will have an opportunity to play for one of the more successful programs in the SEC. They will almost certainly earn more NIL/extra money than they would have at UNT. But, playing at Auburn offer them no extra access to the NFL. And, they will find it harder to see the field among a larger group of talented players. In 10 years, most Auburn fans will probably not even remember their names.

So in the long term... they probably made very poor choices. At UNT they would have been featured stars with every opportunity to make big time plays for the NFL scouts. And however their professional careers played out, they would have been remembered as UNT greats. In Shorter's case, possibly one of the best to ever play his position at UNT. Playing their entire careers at UNT worked out fine for Joe Greene and Abner Haynes. But, Shorter and Nixon made their choices. Now they have to live with their choice. No player(s) is/are bigger than the program. UNT will be just fine. Go Mean Green!!!

Edited May 29, 2023 by Side.Show.Joe

Mike Jackson · May 30, 2023

On 5/24/2023 at 7:02 PM, MeanGreen13 said:

If it was for money and higher competition, yes. If it was about post-football life and athletic legacy, no. IF they get on the field and make it to the next level, it will be worth it to them. If they don't, they'll hit the real world like any other athlete... maybe with less support from either alumni base.

Very grounded logical assessment. Too bad it got an eye roll reaction.

Cr1028 · May 30, 2023

I’m curious what advice this guy would give them and if he feels he made the right decision.

untphd · May 30, 2023

37 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

I’m curious what advice this guy would give them and if he feels he made the right decision.

Far as I can tell he hasn't found a spot yet.

UNTLifer · May 30, 2023

1 hour ago, untphd said:

Far as I can tell he hasn't found a spot yet.

Didn't he play at Vanderbilt with his final year of eligibility?

Cr1028 · May 30, 2023

30 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Didn't he play at Vanderbilt with his final year of eligibility?

Yes

Cr1028 · May 30, 2023

3 hours ago, untphd said:

Far as I can tell he hasn't found a spot yet.

Yea I don’t think he has. I wonder if in his mind he gained anything from going to Vandy besides just a new experience.

untphd · May 30, 2023

1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

Didn't he play at Vanderbilt with his final year of eligibility?

I thought he was talking about going pro after vandy. Why else leave?

untphd · May 30, 2023

22 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

Yea I don’t think he has. I wonder if in his mind he gained anything from going to Vandy besides just a new experience.

It would be one way to test the waters, bujt it has a high price.

Mike Jackson · May 31, 2023

This is great little discussion related to this topic.

untphd · May 31, 2023

43 minutes ago, Mike Jackson said:

This is great little discussion related to this topic.

Thanks for sharing.

wardly · May 31, 2023

On 5/24/2023 at 3:54 PM, Wag Tag said:

Yes. They believe that each of them can compete at the highest level of college football. This NIL raise also doesn’t hurt. Wish Shorter the best!

In addition they can get more "exposure" off the field as well. Just say CHEEZE!