SMU potentially to the PAC-12

[meanrob]

2 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

On ESPN Radio last night, they discussed that PAC 12 might go almost all in with Apple TV. They commented that with Apple TV could get their money, but the problem is getting people (especially recruits) to watch their games. So yes, they may get cash on par with the Big 12, but that is risky if you're tying everything to streaming on one service.

Kinda reminds me when the NHL went to NBCSports because of money. Hard to find the games and ESPNs overall coverage dipped dramatically. But not sure the overall health of the league suffered. 
 

If they go with Apple there’s no question the eyes on the league will go down.  The real issue is if they have teams that are nationally relevant. If they don’t, there’s really no reason for any non west outlet to cover them. Also interesting to see if big time teams will schedule a home and home if the game will only be available via Apple. Not sure yet if other teams will follow Ohio State. 

[NT80]

5 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

On ESPN Radio last night, they discussed that PAC 12 might go almost all in with Apple TV. They commented that with Apple TV could get their money, but the problem is getting people (especially recruits) to watch their games. So yes, they may get cash on par with the Big 12, but that is risky if you're tying everything to streaming on one service.

It’s not mainstream enough.  It may be in 10 years when everything is streaming, but not now.   General college football fans will not buy this just to watch PAC sports.  

[Coffee and TV]

1 hour ago, El Paso Eagle said:

On ESPN Radio last night, they discussed that PAC 12 might go almost all in with Apple TV. They commented that with Apple TV could get their money, but the problem is getting people (especially recruits) to watch their games. So yes, they may get cash on par with the Big 12, but that is risky if you're tying everything to streaming on one service.

In the long term this will be where much of your sports ends up whether it's Apple or Amazon or HBO streaming, but when all the other P5s are on network TV, does the PAC really think your average college football fans are going to then switch over to a streaming service to catch their games? Doubtful. 

[TIgreen01]

That's a pretty shocking development, if true.  It's no different than our crappy ESPN3/ESPN+ coverage from the past decade+.  Viewership will absolutely plummet and what do they do when they go back to renegotiate in 5 years armed with pathetic and dwindling viewer/ratings numbers?  They just keep losing money.  

If they sign that they are either fools or have run out of other options.

[GMG_Dallas]

4 hours ago, Zeleny' Orel said:

So according to this guy, Austin Aune will be back as quarterback next year...breaking news to UNT, I think

Had to throw everything he said out with that statement. Before you make a video like that, at least try verify your facts.

[NT80]

This is a really good read about a lot of the current PAC12 struggles and issues with media rights...

“Who leaked that the Pac-12 was talking to Apple? And why that is important“

https://www.deseret.com/2023/2/23/23609088/who-leaked-pac-12-talking-to-apple-why-that-matters
 

Edited February 23, 2023 by NT80

[eulessismore]

On 2/22/2023 at 12:36 PM, El Paso Eagle said:

On ESPN Radio last night, they discussed that PAC 12 might go almost all in with Apple TV. They commented that with Apple TV could get their money, but the problem is getting people (especially recruits) to watch their games. So yes, they may get cash on par with the Big 12, but that is risky if you're tying everything to streaming on one service.

Uh, what the hell? Have any of y'all ever tried to get an old fogie to where they could use Apple TV? Patience, grasshopper.

[El Paso Eagle]

On 2/22/2023 at 12:46 PM, Coffee and TV said:

In the long term this will be where much of your sports ends up whether it's Apple or Amazon or HBO streaming, but when all the other P5s are on network TV, does the PAC really think your average college football fans are going to then switch over to a streaming service to catch their games? Doubtful. 

I guess the PAC is trying to get in front of the trend. Again, the money might be great, but as you said, the average fans and many recruits might not be watching.

[MeanGreenTexan]

39 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

I guess the PAC is trying to get in front of the trend. Again, the money might be great, but as you said, the average fans and many recruits might not be watching.

This sounds eerily similar to something we've already seen firsthand when C-USA didn't take ESPN's low-ball offer, and instead partner'd-up with Facebook/Stadium and other streaming services.     Bad news for the PAC-12: The "trend" doesn't lead where you hope it might.

[Jonnyeagle]

Absolutely terrible news that the Pac 12 has leaked this information.  This puts the Pac 12 in a terrible spot. It is apparent that there is a Judas amongst the programs.  I am so glad we landed in the AAC. 

I do agree that Apple is the future, but it may take a couple of years to get there. 

[Jonnyeagle]

 

[untphd]

25 minutes ago, Jonnyeagle said:

 

Man, where is this going to go?

[NT80]

3 hours ago, NT80 said:

This is a really good read about a lot of the current PAC12 struggles and issues with media rights...

“Who leaked that the Pac-12 was talking to Apple? And why that is important“

https://www.deseret.com/2023/2/23/23609088/who-leaked-pac-12-talking-to-apple-why-that-matters
 

“In a sport based around recruiting and donors, people need to find your games easily. ESPN knows this. It’s why Conference USA rushed back to ESPN as part of its new TV deal and away from streaming places like Stadium. Even if Amazon and Apple, which have been more prudent with streaming spending than other places, overpay for the sake of content on a potential sports-only app, it’s an incredible risk for a conference. This isn’t Major League Soccer.”

[DentonStang]

If it's just streaming with no innovation around it, it's going to be a disaster*.

If there is innovation leveraging the reach of Amazon or Apple, it could be good. 

 

*It's unlikely to be streaming only, but will have some marquee games on ESPN.  The existing PAC-12 network reaches practically nobody, so replacing just that with streaming is more exposure than less.

Will be very interesting.

[SUMG]

 

[ColoradoEagle]

2 minutes ago, SUMG said:

 

Tell me your conference is dying without telling me your conference is dying.

[TripleGrad]

4 minutes ago, SUMG said:

 

 

Did Judy move west?

[UNT Texas Hooligan]

11 minutes ago, SUMG said:

 

 

I really hope SMU goes there now 🙏 🤣🤣🤣

[Green Otaku]

12 minutes ago, SUMG said:

 

If this has any real legs, maybe things do play out in those worst case scenarios. I've been skeptical that the PAC would dissolve, or that it only has a small chance of losing the 4 corners schools, but ION tv?

[NT80]

11 minutes ago, Green Otaku said:

If this has any real legs, maybe things do play out in those worst case scenarios. I've been skeptical that the PAC would dissolve, or that it only has a small chance of losing the 4 corners schools, but ION tv?

This can’t give PAC school Presidents or ADs confidence in the PAC getting Big12 money for media.   They will start making option strategy plans for bailing out. 

[DentonStang]

It's already been refuted as inaccurate, but even if it were true, Ion is on everyone's cable or satellite.  If ESPN took the to few games and Ion carried the rest, that's massively more coverage than their PAC-12 network arrangement today and better linear TV coverage than B12.  

[El Paso Eagle]

13 minutes ago, NT80 said:

This can’t give PAC school Presidents or ADs confidence in the PAC getting Big12 money for media.   They will start making option strategy plans for bailing out. 

If anything, Apple is gaining leverage. While they have the money, why overpay. However it goes, I would expect to see a two, or multi tiered payout

[NT80]

2 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

If anything, Apple is gaining leverage. While they have the money, why overpay. However it goes, I would expect to see a two, or multi tiered payout

Yes, no media company wants to overpay when there is little to no competition for the product.  
 

But the PAC likewise must be careful not to take a reasonable offer if it relocates game broadcasts to difficult and non-mainstream  platforms….  Like CUSA did. 

[UNT Texas Hooligan]

13 minutes ago, DentonStang said:

It's already been refuted as inaccurate, but even if it were true, Ion is on everyone's cable or satellite.  If ESPN took the to few games and Ion carried the rest, that's massively more coverage than their PAC-12 network arrangement today and better linear TV coverage than B12.  

[SUMG]

From Derek Duke on Twitter. "PAC 12 Football, Coming Soon To A Gas Pump Near You."