Gilbert and Owens Effect in Recruiting

[TheReal_jayD]

 

[KingDL1]

[NorthTexasWeLove]

That's great. We are clearly putting together a recruiting staff on paper. I'm pumped for that. I think dividends can happen. But, I feel like we're slow balling this. Does the crew have start dates? Are they waiting for a new year new them? Let's get to cookin. 

[Wag Tag]

No doubt they can get us in the door, now let's see if we can close.

[TheReal_jayD]

  On 12/30/2022 at 2:09 PM, NorthTexasWeLove said:

That's great. We are clearly putting together a recruiting staff on paper. I'm pumped for that. I think dividends can happen. But, I feel like we're slow balling this. Does the crew have start dates? Are they waiting for a new year new them? Let's get to cookin. 

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Think things are moving behind scenes. Expecting big visitor list next weekend. But also working with limited spots at moment. Expect some roster management as well. 

[UNT Texas Hooligan]

  On 12/30/2022 at 2:18 PM, TheReal_jayD said:

Think things are moving behind scenes. Expecting big visitor list next weekend. But also working with limited spots at moment. Expect some roster management as well. 

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Expect a lot of current players to be nudged towards the TP?

[TheReal_jayD]

  On 12/30/2022 at 2:28 PM, UNT Texas Hooligan said:

Expect a lot of current players to be nudged towards the TP?

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I think like with every staff change there will be several recommended to test waters. 

[Side.Show.Joe]

  On 12/30/2022 at 2:18 PM, TheReal_jayD said:

Think things are moving behind scenes. Expecting big visitor list next weekend. But also working with limited spots at moment. Expect some roster management as well. 

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Would a QB named Sanders be on that list?

[Hunter Green]

  On 12/30/2022 at 2:18 PM, TheReal_jayD said:

Think things are moving behind scenes. Expecting big visitor list next weekend. But also working with limited spots at moment. Expect some roster management as well. 

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Are any of our offensive stars leaving, or considering leaving?

[Cr1028]

  On 12/31/2022 at 9:20 PM, Hunter Green said:

Are any of our offensive stars leaving, or considering leaving?

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Aune and Roberts

[Glory to the Green]

  On 12/31/2022 at 9:20 PM, Hunter Green said:

Are any of our offensive stars leaving, or considering leaving?

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Someone hinted that Adaway may enter the portal, but nothing official.  I hope stays. He’s a great player. 

[Hunter Green]

  On 12/31/2022 at 9:46 PM, Cr1028 said:

Aune and Roberts

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I thought I'd read that Shorter was being courted by Pitt. I sure hope he stays.

[greenminer]

  On 12/31/2022 at 11:40 PM, Hunter Green said:

I thought I'd read that Shorter was being courted by Pitt. I sure hope he stays.

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To my knowledge, Shorter is testing the waters (at least).

Aune and Roberts are as out as "out" can be.

[akriesman]

Shorter would be a huge loss.   That guy is a stud.

I would love Adaway back.   But of all the backs, Ayo Adeyi is the one guy I don't want to lose.

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[GrandGreen]

Lot of comments relative to several new football coaches having great local connections to DFW recruits.

I just wonder if that really is a significant advantage over past NT coaches.

I don't think NT has had a problem identifying good local prospects.  The issue is signing them, will the new coaches be any more successful?

I hope it does give NT an edge, but frankly I doubt it.  SMU and their connections (NIL money) has just about their pick of area recruits that don't get P5 attention.  Being in the same conference should even things up a little, but there is no hint of that yet.  

I would like to think that is because of the lateness of the coaching change. 

Having better recruiters on staff is an improvement, but I wonder how much it will really help

I do think the new staff will be better coaching and that will improve the team. 

[BigWillie]

  On 12/31/2022 at 9:46 PM, Cr1028 said:

Aune and Roberts

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He said offensive "stars".

[Cooley]

I think the benefit will be with those kids desiring to transfer back to the area; after they realize the grass was not greener. They generally reach out to a trusted adviser including their HS school coach. The relationships/credibility the coach has with Coach O and Gilbert hopefully will be the difference.

These guys just need to hit on 2-3 big names and I think the perception will change that UNT is a viable options other than SMU, TCU or UTSA

[greenminer]

  On 1/1/2023 at 7:50 AM, Cooley said:

These guys just need to hit on 2-3 big names and I think the perception will change that UNT is a viable options other than SMU, TCU or UTSA

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I have often thought about this too.

get a stud QB and inevitably a few other studs will want to receive the ball from him

get a stud DL and other DLs will want to chase QBs with him. Etc…

[GMG24]

  On 1/1/2023 at 7:50 AM, Cooley said:

I think the benefit will be with those kids desiring to transfer back to the area; after they realize the grass was not greener. They generally reach out to a trusted adviser including their HS school coach. The relationships/credibility the coach has with Coach O and Gilbert hopefully will be the difference.

These guys just need to hit on 2-3 big names and I think the perception will change that UNT is a viable options other than SMU, TCU or UTSA

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Agreed, except I'd take TCU out of the equation at this point.  Them playing in the national championship game will change the level of recruit they can/will go get.  But I completely agree on the SMU/UTSA deal.  I think we will see early and often a few more kids each class staying closer to home, and choosing UNT.  

[TheColonyEagle]

  On 1/1/2023 at 6:37 AM, GrandGreen said:

Lot of comments relative to several new football coaches having great local connections to DFW recruits.

I just wonder if that really is a significant advantage over past NT coaches.

I don't think NT has had a problem identifying good local prospects.  The issue is signing them, will the new coaches be any more successful?

I hope it does give NT an edge, but frankly I doubt it.  SMU and their connections (NIL money) has just about their pick of area recruits that don't get P5 attention.  Being in the same conference should even things up a little, but there is no hint of that yet.  

I would like to think that is because of the lateness of the coaching change. 

Having better recruiters on staff is an improvement, but I wonder how much it will really help

I do think the new staff will be better coaching and that will improve the team. 

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Agree. And it will be pretty easy to prove. Either this staff that looks amazing on paper gets better recruits or they don’t. We don’t know yet. We will soon 

[MeanGreenDan]

  On 12/31/2022 at 11:11 PM, Glory to the Green said:

Someone hinted that Adaway may enter the portal, but nothing official.  I hope stays. He’s a great player. 

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Loved him when he was healthy, but if he were the only one to leave, it's probably our deepest position and we can absorb the loss.

[El Paso Eagle]

  On 1/1/2023 at 4:20 PM, GMG24 said:

Agreed, except I'd take TCU out of the equation at this point.  Them playing in the national championship game will change the level of recruit they can/will go get.  But I completely agree on the SMU/UTSA deal.  I think we will see early and often a few more kids each class staying closer to home, and choosing UNT.  

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Head to head with UTSA is critical. SMU will be a different obsticial due to NIL. 

[greenminer]

  On 1/1/2023 at 5:06 PM, MeanGreenDan said:

Loved him when he was healthy, but if he were the only one to leave, it's probably our deepest position and we can absorb the loss.

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We'd be fine at RB without him but, man! He was still that special.  A level of up from anyone behind him, IMO.

[97and03]

  On 1/1/2023 at 7:02 PM, greenminer said:

We'd be fine at RB without him but, man! He was still that special.  A level of up from anyone behind him, IMO.

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I think Addaway is our best back. I wonder if his ankle will limit his portal options.

[meangreenfaninno]

  On 1/2/2023 at 1:49 AM, 97and03 said:

I think Addaway is our best back. I wonder if his ankle will limit his portal options.

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I think portal teams could request a medical report or xrays etc. if truly interested.  I think the bigger issue is does he fit in Eric' s offense? They seem to like the scat backs.