UNT TRANSFER PORTAL ACTIVITY

[TheReal_jayD]

1 hour ago, Mike Jackson said:

I am not blaming Morris for any of this.  They fired Seth too late.  At the very latest they should have fired him after 2nd half goose egg blowout that the UAB game turned into.  A half of being shutout should never happen to a tenured HC with an offensive back ground and seasoned starting QB.   Leadership made sure that the new coach was going to be behind the 8-ball going into the new conference.  Shorter deserved to be utilized better.

Kind of delusional wishful thinking.  Just like the decision to bring Seth back.  It was   absolutely stupid to let weather cloud a long term decision.  UTSA's Jeff Traylor owned Seth from the day he arrived in San Antonio.  So 😡 that we ended up with a coach taking over under these circumstances when it was clear as day to any neutral observer that under Seth had reached his ceiling with the team here.

[Billy Clyde]

Good riddance and GTFO.

[TheReal_jayD]

Just now, Billy Clyde said:

Good riddance and GTFO.

[greenminer]

3 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

This is the new normal for G5s in the portal, especially during coaching changes.  Keep in mind that less than half of players that enter the portal find a new place to play.

Are you concerned we will not refill our roster?

I haven't put this altogether, so help me out:

1) Half of these kids don't find a place to plant their feet.  I would think that's because rosters fill up....like ours, no?
2) How does the NCAA limit on scholarship offers play into this?

Edited December 19, 2022 by greenminer

[ntmeangreen11]

Alderbing is a great blocker and actually played more snaps than most would think. Definitely a loss, but can still be a win/win for student/university if we add the right replacement.

Best of luck Asher!

[El Paso Eagle]

Just now, greenminer said:

Are you concerned we will not refill our roster?

I haven't put this altogether, so help me out:

1) Half of these kids don't find a place to plant their feet.  I would think that's because rosters fill up....like ours, no?
2) How does the scholarship limit play into this?

I have no doubt that we will fill out the roster.

Teams can now sign as many players as needed in a single recruiting class beginning with the class of 2023, so long as it does not exceed the number of overall scholarships allowed, which is 85. Up until this rule passed by the NCAA Division I Council on Wednesday, football programs could sign a maximum of 25 in a recruiting cycle.

My reference to the number that get left without is a combination of supply and demand compared to what is open. So now you have FBS. FCS, D5, and HS players competing for the same number of openings.

Only 54% of FBS transfers wound up enrolling at a new school, the NCAA said Monday. About 5% of portal entrants withdrew their names and 41% either stayed in, enrolled at a non-NCAA school or left their sport. The number for FCS players finding a new school look to be around  36%

 

• 54% reported enrolling at a new school
• 41% have not found a new school, are still looking, transferred to a non-NCAA school, or left their sport completely
• 59% of scholarship transfers found a scholarship at a new FBS school
• 8% left their scholarships and became walk-ons at a new school
• 33% of players remain without a destination
• 18% of walk-ons that transferred found a scholarship at a new school

• About one-third of FCS transfers land a scholarship at a new school
• 36% of FCS transfers find a new school to sign with at all

There are multiple reasons players enter, but sadly many end up outside FBS, or no longer getting assistance.  

[Moobs]

6 hours ago, Wag Tag said:

Would like to see a qb coach that has pro or college player experience!

 

You mean... kinda like how the new HC has worked with pro and college players?

Edited December 20, 2022 by Moobs

[Moobs]

7 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Just my opinion, but if I'm a G5 school, not sure if I would go after more than a small handful of HS players every year.

 

This is actually not a bad idea.  Catch players at their second collegiate stops and they have to sit out a year if they decide to leave you too.  That alone will probably keep most of them from leaving your program.

Make a name for developing the talent and this is a real viable recruiting strategy.

[NT93]

5 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

For the players that have come here, gave their all, and not bad-mouthed our University - I wish you success and happiness as you move on.

I agree and I’ll add that’s it’s especially true of grad transfers in my opinion.  
 

If you’ve got your degree, you’re an alumni just the same as the rest of us.  

[outoftown]

5 hours ago, Moobs said:

 

This is actually not a bad idea.  Catch players at their second collegiate stops and they have to sit out a year if they decide to leave you too.  That alone will probably keep most of them from leaving your program.

Make a name for developing the talent and this is a real viable recruiting strategy.

That is obviously true, and Sonny Dykes at SMU realized this pretty much before everyone else, while SL kind of refused to see it the first two years and paid the prize.

However, to play the devils advocate: Those players that you transfer in, they have to develop somewhere first. if all G5s do it like this, then there will not be enough players around for everyone. Sure some of what used to be FBS talent will go to FCS first, but it is unlikely to be enough and P5s are unlikely to be the places that look to develop all those high school players either. The amount of players used in FBS will not actually get reduced however and there will be much less available first time transfers eventually as the years where schools take in less HS players start to add up. This just kind of gets papered over right now (and the portal made worse because of it), because there are sooo many players with extra eligbility because of the COVID year. That year of extra eligibility may have been fair to the players that played 2020, but it was completely unfair to the guys who are coming in in 2023. In any case, at some point the pendulum may swing the other way, as the available talent out of high school gets better and better because sooo many schools bypass it to fill up on the portal. Still, in the future going the high school route will indeed be super risky for G5s who will not have the NIL game to keep them from transferring to a P5.

Edited December 20, 2022 by outoftown

[dodgefan]

I follow recruiting for most of the Texas teams and Sonny is going to do well in the portal again. TCU just landed a 5 star receiver from Bama. Warning, some of you are not going to like the group that SMU is going to sign tomorrow. According to the recruiting services, this is probably their best haul ever.

[UNT Texas Hooligan]

1 hour ago, dodgefan said:

I follow recruiting for most of the Texas teams and Sonny is going to do well in the portal again. TCU just landed a 5 star receiver from Bama. Warning, some of you are not going to like the group that SMU is going to sign tomorrow. According to the recruiting services, this is probably their best haul ever.

They have basically become Little Coral Gables 

[El Paso Eagle]

6 minutes ago, UNT Texas Hooligan said:

They have basically become Little Coral Gables 

Hopefully they have the same dysfunctionality as Miami 😇

[El Paso Eagle]

1 hour ago, dodgefan said:

I follow recruiting for most of the Texas teams and Sonny is going to do well in the portal again. TCU just landed a 5 star receiver from Bama. Warning, some of you are not going to like the group that SMU is going to sign tomorrow. According to the recruiting services, this is probably their best haul ever.

Noticed the same thing. At least on paper it looks like a monster of a class

[MeanGreenDan]

1 hour ago, dodgefan said:

I follow recruiting for most of the Texas teams and Sonny is going to do well in the portal again. TCU just landed a 5 star receiver from Bama. Warning, some of you are not going to like the group that SMU is going to sign tomorrow. According to the recruiting services, this is probably their best haul ever.

But have you ever considered our approach of *not having a class*?

[UNTLifer]

2 hours ago, dodgefan said:

I follow recruiting for most of the Texas teams and Sonny is going to do well in the portal again. TCU just landed a 5 star receiver from Bama. Warning, some of you are not going to like the group that SMU is going to sign tomorrow. According to the recruiting services, this is probably their best haul ever.

How's Westlake's class coming along?  Oh, and SLC's.

[El Paso Eagle]

1 hour ago, MeanGreenDan said:

But have you ever considered our approach of *not having a class*?

I know we have this whole new commercial campaign, but let's not take it too far

 

[UNT Family Man]

https://247sports.com/Player/Dayton-Le-Blanc-46039490/

[jtm0097]

Jake Roberts to the portal. This one hurts.

 

[glick1980]

Didn’t want to see this one…

 

https://247sports.com/Player/Jake-Roberts-46082835/

[CaribbeanGreen]

Thank goodness Gumms stayed. Between Roberts leaving and the TE decommit, are we seeing evidence that Morris doesn’t use the TE like Littrell did? Gumms may be more than enough (I hope). 

This one is the first to really hit hard. Loved this dude. Damn. 

[Jonnyeagle]

Im deeply saddened on this news.  This one is going to take me awhile to get over.

[UNTLifer]

10 minutes ago, jtm0097 said:

Jake Roberts to the portal. This one hurts.

 

I think this is a clear sign that Morris won't use a traditional TE, as was the Wagner de-commit.  Gumms is more of an H-Back type and probably fits what Morris likes to do.  This could be a good sign for Christian Lee, as I thought he was kind of in between on size, not heavy enough to play a traditional TE, but not fast enough to be a WR.  I really hope he and Gumms stand out.

[jtm0097]

3 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

I think this is a clear sign that Morris won't use a traditional TE, as was the Wagner de-commit.  Gumms is more of an H-Back type and probably fits what Morris likes to do.  This could be a good sign for Christian Lee, as I thought he was kind of in between on size, not heavy enough to play a traditional TE, but not fast enough to be a WR.  I really hope he and Gumms stand out.

Yeah, that is what I am thinking as well. With the way Roberts blocks and catches the ball, he should go to a Big 10 school. I could see him playing at the next level.

[KeithLee]

3 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

I think this is a clear sign that Morris won't use a traditional TE, as was the Wagner de-commit.  Gumms is more of an H-Back type and probably fits what Morris likes to do.  This could be a good sign for Christian Lee, as I thought he was kind of in between on size, not heavy enough to play a traditional TE, but not fast enough to be a WR.  I really hope he and Gumms stand out.

Thanks @UNTLifer We hope so too. Losing Jake and Asher hurts bad. They were more than great football players. They are what every team needs as students, leaders, friends, teammates, and mentors to our young players. They will be severely missed.  They were work horses and wish the best for both. They are better players from their time at UNT. CLee and Gumms definitely have big shoes to fill.

Timing sucks on all this. Especially, with all leaving for Christmas Break. However, I believe once Coach Morris gets staff hired and has meetings with all the remaining players, everyone will have more clarity in the direction. 

*FYI* CLee is by no means slow!!! 😂 he ran a 4.54 in HS. He went from 201-230lbs his first year.  Gotta get used to tha extra weight. 😂 **