INTRODUCTORY PRESS CONFERENCE FOR COACH MORRIS AND AD MOSLEY - UPDATED DAY AND TIME

[Harry]

[shaft]

I'll take people we shouldn't have hired for $100.

[UNTLifer]

2 minutes ago, shaft said:

I'll take people we shouldn't have hired for $100.

Reason?

[El Paso Eagle]

4 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Reason?

He's still hurting from his hero Seth being fired. Seems to feel going after the new staff and fans is the way he will feel better.

[shaft]

Just now, UNTLifer said:

Reason?

The lack of real hiring search for both positions.  If things we're really going so well we could make an inside hire for AD, then there was no reason for a coaching change.  If things we're really so bad with football, then a real search needed to be conducted.

Instead Neal got jealous of the head coach's pay and we are stuck with a suck up and a with a less experienced person from the same coaching tree.  

[southsideguy]

Time will tell who was right on the hire. I willing to give Morris the support to start with but he better win.

[shaft]

3 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

Time will tell who was right on the hire. I willing to give Morris the support to start with but he better win.

He doesn't have to just win, he as to win conference championships and bowl games.  That's the unrealistic standard Neal has set.

[Hunter Green]

27 minutes ago, shaft said:

The lack of real hiring search for both positions.  If things we're really going so well we could make an inside hire for AD, then there was no reason for a coaching change.  If things we're really so bad with football, then a real search needed to be conducted.

Instead Neal got jealous of the head coach's pay and we are stuck with a suck up and a with a less experienced person from the same coaching tree.  

And you know this how?

[southsideguy]

 FROM CBS SPORTS:College football coaching carousel

 

 

TEAM	IN	OUT	ANALYSIS
	Brian Newberry (Navydefensive coordinator)	Ken Nuimatalolo	This will be Newberry's first head coaching gig. He has been Navy's defensive coordinator for four years, and was a semifinalist for the Broyles Award in 2019. The familiarity with the challenges that exist at Navy is important, but inexperience is at least a small concern for the Midshipmen. Grade: B
	Zach Arnett (Mississippi Statedefensive coordinator)	Mike Leach	Arnett steps into the full-time role after Leach died suddenly. This is an incredibly difficult situation for which there is no easy way to move forward, but Arnett's familiarity with Leach's philosophies will help continue his legacy and provide stability through the tough time. He is a first-time head coach in the SEC, though. That's a big jump.  Grade: B
	Kenni Burns (Minnesotarunning backs coach	Sean Lewis	This is Burns' first crack at as a coach in major college football, but he brings a wealth of experience as an assistant under P.J. Fleck at Minnesota and Western Michigan. He also served as an assistant at FCS juggernaut North Dakota State. This is a perfect place for Burns to get started in the next phase of his career.  Grade: B+
	Eric Morris (Washington Stateoffensive coordinator)	Seth Littrell	Morris has plenty of experience as an assistant coach in the state of Texas, including at Houston (2010-11), Texas Tech(2013-17) and Incarnate Word (2018-21). That is a big deal for the Mean Green, and makes up for his lack of experience as a head coach.  Grade: B+
	Ryan Walters (Illinoisdefensive coordinator)	Jeff Brohm	Walters, 36, was very successful as Illinois' defensive coordinator from 2021-22. He has Power Five experience as an assistant in the Big Ten and SEC, so he knows what major college football demands from its coaches. With that said, this is his first head coaching job and he is replacing a program that has become synonymous with its offensive prowess.  Grade: B
	Troy Taylor (Sacramento State head coach)	David Shaw	Taylor was the coach at Sacramento State before jumping up to the Pac-12 after four years in the FCS. He was successful at the lower level posting a 30-8 record, but this is a whole different ballgame. It's hard enough to be the coach at Stanford given the restrictions that existed. It'll be even more difficult for a first-time FBS coach.  Grade: C
	Lance Taylor ( Louisvilleoffensive coordinator)	Tim Lester	Louisville's offense was remarkably average under Taylor, but his Power 5 experience will help rebuild a program that went downhill under Lester. His lack of head coaching experience is concerning, however.  Grade: C+
	Jeff Brohm ( Purdue head coach)	Scott Satterfield	Brohm led Purdue to multiple bowl games across six years and a Big Ten West title in 2022. He's fielded electric offenses, and his arrival serves as a homecoming moment for the Louisville native, former quarterback and assistant coach for the Cardinals. Long coveted by the fanbase, now finally home, Brohm is an excellent hire for Louisville.  Grade: A-
	Barry Odom ( Arkansasdefensive coordinator)	Marcus Arroyo	Odom brings more than a decade of experience in the SEC as a head coach and coordinator, which should pay huge dividends for the Rebels. He was 25-25 in four seasons as the coach at  Missouri (2016-19), and that experience will be huge for a program that has been spinning its wheels for quite some time.  Grade: B+
	Kevin Wilson ( Ohio Stateoffensive coordinator)	Philip Montgomery	Wilson gets his second head coaching job after a six-year stint with the Buckeyes as an assistant. Wilson's prior track record is a sub-.500 run at  Indiana from 2011 to 2016, and Tulsa isn't an easy place to consistently win, but his offensive acumen probably meant he was going to get another shot somewhere.  Grade: C
	Scott Satterfield (Louisville head coach)	Luke Fickell	Satterfield was 25-24 in four seasons at Louisville, and was unable to elevate the program into ACC contention. However, he was a superstar at  Appalachian State from 2013-18 and led the transition for the program from FCS to FBS. That experience will help as Cincinnati transitions to the Big 12, but his lack of success at the Power Five level is concerning. Grade: C+
	Tim Beck (NC State offensive coordinator)	Jamey Chadwell	This is Beck's first crack as a head coach, and he is taking over a Chanticleers program that established a tradition of offensive success under Chadwell. None of Beck's three Wolfpack offenses finished in the top half of the ACC, and two of this three offenses at Texas finished in the bottom half of the Big 12. This hire doesn't make any sense.  Grade: F
	Jamey Chadwell ( Coastal Carolina head coach)	Hugh Freeze	Chadwell led Coastal Carolina into the national spotlight with back-to-back 11-win seasons in 2020 and 2021. His offensive success will play well with a Liberty program that emerged as an offensive threat under Freeze. Simply put, he will slide right in and continue the program's rise as it transitions into Conference USA.  Grade: A-
	Deion Sanders (Jackson State coach)	Karl Dorrell	Sanders was hired from Jackson State, where he posted a 27-5 record including an undefeated 2022 mark this season. He doesn't have major college head coaching experience, but his ability to recruit high schoolers and transfers, develop players and market the program should put the Buffaloes on the map in a hurry.  Grade: A-
	Alex Golesh ( Tennesseeoffensive coordinator)	Jeff Scott	Golesh comes to  South Florida after helping guide Tennessee's offense to No. 1 nationally in both scoring and total offense. He also has experience building a winning organization with Matt  Campbell at  Iowa State . With that said, South Florida is taking another chance on an outsider who is unproven as a head coach. That's dangerous for a team that has regressed into irrelevancy.  Grade: D
	G.J. Kinne ( Incarnate Word coach)	Jake Spavital	Kinne has proven to be an offensive wizard during his coaching career, including this season at Incanate Word where his team averaged 52.9 points mer game. His ties to the state of  Texas coupled with his offensive prowess make him a solid fit for a program that is searching for an identity. As long as the  Texas State administration gives the 34-year-old time to build, he could make the Bobcats relevant in the Sun Belt.  Grade: B
	Tom Herman (Ex-Texas coach)	Willie Taggart	Herman was at one time an up-and-coming name in the coaching ranks, and he lands at a place with a history of taking Power Five retreads. When you combined his stints at Houston and Texas, Herman's track record checks out fine. He can win here.  Grade: B
	Trent Dilfer (High school coach and former NFL QB)	Bill Clark	Clark announced his retirement in June and  Bryant Vincent took over on an interim basis. Vincent went 6-6 in 2022 and led the Blazers to the Bahamas Bowl. Dilfer has had success as a player and at the high school level, but  UAB is taking a big risk hiring him over Vincent.  Grade: C-
	Brent Key ( Georgia Techinterim coach)	Geoff Collins	Key led the Yellow Jackets to a 4-4 record following Collins' dismissal. He's a Georgia Tech alum who knows the challenges that the program faces. With that said, he's a first-time head coach at a Power Five school that has to fight recruiting battles with all of the top-tier teams in the country. It might take some time.  Grade: B-
	Hugh Freeze (Liberty coach)	Bryan Harsin	Freeze was 39-25 (including vacated wins) in five years as the head coach at Ole Miss (2012-16). He followed that up with a 31-15 record at Liberty from 2019-22. His resignation from Ole Miss in July 2017 for a "pattern of personal misconduct," but there's no doubt that the guy can win at an elite level.  Grade: A
	Luke Fickell (Cincinnati coach)	Paul Chryst	This is a home-run hire for a Badgers program that needed a spark. Fickell was 57-18 with the Bearcats, had three double-digit win seasons, two conference titles and a berth in the College Football Playoff following the 2021 season.  Grade: A+
	Kenny Dillingham ( Oregonoffensive coordinator)	Herm Edwards	Dillingham is an  Arizona State alum who has never served as a head coach. He has a lot of upside, but Arizona State is counting on a very young leader -- 32 years old -- to navigate through some NCAA issues while building the program back. Grade: C+
	Matt Rhule (Ex-Carolina Panthers coach)	Scott Frost	Rhule was 19-20 in three seasons in Baylor, and took the program from a disaster after the Art Briles era to the Sugar Bowl and 10-win season in his third year with the Bears. He is a known program builder, which is exactly what Nebraska needs.  Grade: A
	Biff Poggi ( Michiganassociate head coach)	Will Healy	After the young Will Healy faded,  Charlotte opted to go the opposite direction and nab a grizzled veteran. Poggi, 62, has a storied career as a high school coach to his name and helped reorganize Michigan behind the scenes over the past two years. It's not a flashy hire, but Poggi might be the kind of organizational mind Charlotte needs while entering the AAC.  Grade: B

Edited December 19, 2022 by southsideguy

[greenminer]

39 minutes ago, shaft said:

The lack of real hiring search for both positions.  If things we're really going so well we could make an inside hire for AD, then there was no reason for a coaching change.  If things we're really so bad with football, then a real search needed to be conducted.

Instead Neal got jealous of the head coach's pay and we are stuck with a suck up and a with a less experienced person from the same coaching tree.  

The thing is, things aren't really bad with football.  We just need a guy to build on what we have.  Get the defense in the right position, up the QB level, and we'll be pretty good.  We were competitive with a 9-win Boise State program.  I wasn't really interested in a complete overhaul.  Not in the football program.  Not in our AD.

Do you not feel like we did an open search at all?  

I'm thinking of all these departments that hire internally.  Boise State comes to mind.  Maybe it's apple to oranges, but no one seemed to question their methods.

Edited December 19, 2022 by greenminer

[greenminer]

Also, here's the YT link for the live broadcast:

 

 

[BigWillie]

26 minutes ago, shaft said:

He doesn't have to just win, he as to win conference championships and bowl games.  That's the unrealistic standard Neal has set.

Curious why is it so unrealistic? We should be winning championships. If not, we are just the same ole North Texas.

 

Why not expect better?

[meangreenfaninno]

42 minutes ago, shaft said:

The lack of real hiring search for both positions.  If things we're really going so well we could make an inside hire for AD, then there was no reason for a coaching change.  If things we're really so bad with football, then a real search needed to be conducted.

Instead Neal got jealous of the head coach's pay and we are stuck with a suck up and a with a less experienced person from the same coaching tree.  

Moderators I beg you to please remove @shaft from posting on this site.  He is extremely disrespectful to our president and coach morris and he has no supporting data as its all accusations.  

[NT80]

22 minutes ago, shaft said:

He doesn't have to just win, he as to win conference championships and bowl games.  That's the unrealistic standard Neal has set.

It's not unrealistic.  That is the expectation of any college football coach and program.  The lack of will get you fired in any conference too.  Faster in the P5 conferences because they have more $$ to make changes quicker.  If Seth won some trophies he might still be here.  

[Glory to the Green]

41 minutes ago, shaft said:

He doesn't have to just win, he as to win conference championships and bowl games.  That's the unrealistic standard Neal has set.

I agree with this. Why is this unrealistic? JM and EM know what’s expected of them. This is a good thing. 

[greenminer]

23 minutes ago, meangreenfaninno said:

Moderators I beg you to please remove @shaft from posting on this site.  He is extremely disrespectful to our president and coach morris and he has no supporting data as its all accusations.  

what?

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by greenminer

[UNTLifer]

2 hours ago, shaft said:

The lack of real hiring search for both positions.  If things we're really going so well we could make an inside hire for AD, then there was no reason for a coaching change.  If things we're really so bad with football, then a real search needed to be conducted.

Instead Neal got jealous of the head coach's pay and we are stuck with a suck up and a with a less experienced person from the same coaching tree.  

You have proof or are these just your opinions?

[UNTLifer]

1 hour ago, southsideguy said:

 FROM CBS SPORTS:College football coaching carousel

 

 

TEAM	IN	OUT	ANALYSIS
	Brian Newberry (Navydefensive coordinator)	Ken Nuimatalolo	This will be Newberry's first head coaching gig. He has been Navy's defensive coordinator for four years, and was a semifinalist for the Broyles Award in 2019. The familiarity with the challenges that exist at Navy is important, but inexperience is at least a small concern for the Midshipmen. Grade: B
	Zach Arnett (Mississippi Statedefensive coordinator)	Mike Leach	Arnett steps into the full-time role after Leach died suddenly. This is an incredibly difficult situation for which there is no easy way to move forward, but Arnett's familiarity with Leach's philosophies will help continue his legacy and provide stability through the tough time. He is a first-time head coach in the SEC, though. That's a big jump.  Grade: B
	Kenni Burns (Minnesotarunning backs coach	Sean Lewis	This is Burns' first crack at as a coach in major college football, but he brings a wealth of experience as an assistant under P.J. Fleck at Minnesota and Western Michigan. He also served as an assistant at FCS juggernaut North Dakota State. This is a perfect place for Burns to get started in the next phase of his career.  Grade: B+
	Eric Morris (Washington Stateoffensive coordinator)	Seth Littrell	Morris has plenty of experience as an assistant coach in the state of Texas, including at Houston (2010-11), Texas Tech(2013-17) and Incarnate Word (2018-21). That is a big deal for the Mean Green, and makes up for his lack of experience as a head coach.  Grade: B+
	Ryan Walters (Illinoisdefensive coordinator)	Jeff Brohm	Walters, 36, was very successful as Illinois' defensive coordinator from 2021-22. He has Power Five experience as an assistant in the Big Ten and SEC, so he knows what major college football demands from its coaches. With that said, this is his first head coaching job and he is replacing a program that has become synonymous with its offensive prowess.  Grade: B
	Troy Taylor (Sacramento State head coach)	David Shaw	Taylor was the coach at Sacramento State before jumping up to the Pac-12 after four years in the FCS. He was successful at the lower level posting a 30-8 record, but this is a whole different ballgame. It's hard enough to be the coach at Stanford given the restrictions that existed. It'll be even more difficult for a first-time FBS coach.  Grade: C
	Lance Taylor ( Louisvilleoffensive coordinator)	Tim Lester	Louisville's offense was remarkably average under Taylor, but his Power 5 experience will help rebuild a program that went downhill under Lester. His lack of head coaching experience is concerning, however.  Grade: C+
	Jeff Brohm ( Purdue head coach)	Scott Satterfield	Brohm led Purdue to multiple bowl games across six years and a Big Ten West title in 2022. He's fielded electric offenses, and his arrival serves as a homecoming moment for the Louisville native, former quarterback and assistant coach for the Cardinals. Long coveted by the fanbase, now finally home, Brohm is an excellent hire for Louisville.  Grade: A-
	Barry Odom ( Arkansasdefensive coordinator)	Marcus Arroyo	Odom brings more than a decade of experience in the SEC as a head coach and coordinator, which should pay huge dividends for the Rebels. He was 25-25 in four seasons as the coach at  Missouri (2016-19), and that experience will be huge for a program that has been spinning its wheels for quite some time.  Grade: B+
	Kevin Wilson ( Ohio Stateoffensive coordinator)	Philip Montgomery	Wilson gets his second head coaching job after a six-year stint with the Buckeyes as an assistant. Wilson's prior track record is a sub-.500 run at  Indiana from 2011 to 2016, and Tulsa isn't an easy place to consistently win, but his offensive acumen probably meant he was going to get another shot somewhere.  Grade: C
	Scott Satterfield (Louisville head coach)	Luke Fickell	Satterfield was 25-24 in four seasons at Louisville, and was unable to elevate the program into ACC contention. However, he was a superstar at  Appalachian State from 2013-18 and led the transition for the program from FCS to FBS. That experience will help as Cincinnati transitions to the Big 12, but his lack of success at the Power Five level is concerning. Grade: C+
	Tim Beck (NC State offensive coordinator)	Jamey Chadwell	This is Beck's first crack as a head coach, and he is taking over a Chanticleers program that established a tradition of offensive success under Chadwell. None of Beck's three Wolfpack offenses finished in the top half of the ACC, and two of this three offenses at Texas finished in the bottom half of the Big 12. This hire doesn't make any sense.  Grade: F
	Jamey Chadwell ( Coastal Carolina head coach)	Hugh Freeze	Chadwell led Coastal Carolina into the national spotlight with back-to-back 11-win seasons in 2020 and 2021. His offensive success will play well with a Liberty program that emerged as an offensive threat under Freeze. Simply put, he will slide right in and continue the program's rise as it transitions into Conference USA.  Grade: A-
	Deion Sanders (Jackson State coach)	Karl Dorrell	Sanders was hired from Jackson State, where he posted a 27-5 record including an undefeated 2022 mark this season. He doesn't have major college head coaching experience, but his ability to recruit high schoolers and transfers, develop players and market the program should put the Buffaloes on the map in a hurry.  Grade: A-
	Alex Golesh ( Tennesseeoffensive coordinator)	Jeff Scott	Golesh comes to  South Florida after helping guide Tennessee's offense to No. 1 nationally in both scoring and total offense. He also has experience building a winning organization with Matt  Campbell at  Iowa State . With that said, South Florida is taking another chance on an outsider who is unproven as a head coach. That's dangerous for a team that has regressed into irrelevancy.  Grade: D
	G.J. Kinne ( Incarnate Word coach)	Jake Spavital	Kinne has proven to be an offensive wizard during his coaching career, including this season at Incanate Word where his team averaged 52.9 points mer game. His ties to the state of  Texas coupled with his offensive prowess make him a solid fit for a program that is searching for an identity. As long as the  Texas State administration gives the 34-year-old time to build, he could make the Bobcats relevant in the Sun Belt.  Grade: B
	Tom Herman (Ex-Texas coach)	Willie Taggart	Herman was at one time an up-and-coming name in the coaching ranks, and he lands at a place with a history of taking Power Five retreads. When you combined his stints at Houston and Texas, Herman's track record checks out fine. He can win here.  Grade: B
	Trent Dilfer (High school coach and former NFL QB)	Bill Clark	Clark announced his retirement in June and  Bryant Vincent took over on an interim basis. Vincent went 6-6 in 2022 and led the Blazers to the Bahamas Bowl. Dilfer has had success as a player and at the high school level, but  UAB is taking a big risk hiring him over Vincent.  Grade: C-
	Brent Key ( Georgia Techinterim coach)	Geoff Collins	Key led the Yellow Jackets to a 4-4 record following Collins' dismissal. He's a Georgia Tech alum who knows the challenges that the program faces. With that said, he's a first-time head coach at a Power Five school that has to fight recruiting battles with all of the top-tier teams in the country. It might take some time.  Grade: B-
	Hugh Freeze (Liberty coach)	Bryan Harsin	Freeze was 39-25 (including vacated wins) in five years as the head coach at Ole Miss (2012-16). He followed that up with a 31-15 record at Liberty from 2019-22. His resignation from Ole Miss in July 2017 for a "pattern of personal misconduct," but there's no doubt that the guy can win at an elite level.  Grade: A
	Luke Fickell (Cincinnati coach)	Paul Chryst	This is a home-run hire for a Badgers program that needed a spark. Fickell was 57-18 with the Bearcats, had three double-digit win seasons, two conference titles and a berth in the College Football Playoff following the 2021 season.  Grade: A+
	Kenny Dillingham ( Oregonoffensive coordinator)	Herm Edwards	Dillingham is an  Arizona State alum who has never served as a head coach. He has a lot of upside, but Arizona State is counting on a very young leader -- 32 years old -- to navigate through some NCAA issues while building the program back. Grade: C+
	Matt Rhule (Ex-Carolina Panthers coach)	Scott Frost	Rhule was 19-20 in three seasons in Baylor, and took the program from a disaster after the Art Briles era to the Sugar Bowl and 10-win season in his third year with the Bears. He is a known program builder, which is exactly what Nebraska needs.  Grade: A
	Biff Poggi ( Michiganassociate head coach)	Will Healy	After the young Will Healy faded,  Charlotte opted to go the opposite direction and nab a grizzled veteran. Poggi, 62, has a storied career as a high school coach to his name and helped reorganize Michigan behind the scenes over the past two years. It's not a flashy hire, but Poggi might be the kind of organizational mind Charlotte needs while entering the AAC.  Grade: B

Well, we received a B+.   Just wait until this writer realizes Morris was the HC at Incarnate Word, not an assistant, and also served as the OC at Washington St.  That will elevate us to an A.

[Udomann]

3 hours ago, meangreenfaninno said:

Moderators I beg you to please remove @shaft from posting on this site.  He is extremely disrespectful to our president and coach morris and he has no supporting data as its all accusations.  

Might as well remove me too. I'm not crazy about it either and have stated why. I do like their enthusiasm but it definitely was not the way I wanted to see it go.

But apparently opinions are an offense that should have us removed from a meaningless internet argument?

Edited December 19, 2022 by Udomann

[97and03]

5 hours ago, shaft said:

He doesn't have to just win, he as to win conference championships and bowl games.  That's the unrealistic standard Neal has set.

Doesn’t seem like an unreasonable goal at all. 

[MeanGreenDan]

6 hours ago, shaft said:

He doesn't have to just win, he as to win conference championships and bowl games.  That's the unrealistic standard Neal has set.

Winning bowl games against what should be evenly matched teams is unrealistic? 

[shaft]

16 hours ago, greenminer said:

The thing is, things aren't really bad with football.  We just need a guy to build on what we have.  Get the defense in the right position, up the QB level, and we'll be pretty good.  We were competitive with a 9-win Boise State program.  I wasn't really interested in a complete overhaul.  Not in the football program.  Not in our AD.

Do you not feel like we did an open search at all?  

I'm thinking of all these departments that hire internally.  Boise State comes to mind.  Maybe it's apple to oranges, but no one seemed to question their methods.

I agree things weren't that bad with football.   I think the way you level up is coordinators, assistant coaches, and recruiters.  But now we are going to turn all those things over for another guy to learn on the job in a harder conference.

How did we have a real AD or coaching search in 9 days?

 

[southsideguy]

Morris said he wanted to win championships.  

[MGNation92]

14 hours ago, MeanGreenDan said:

Winning bowl games against what should be evenly matched teams is unrealistic? 

Not just bowl games. Littrell was regularly blown out against OOC G5 teams not named Army.

Ironically enough, for wanting to cancel the army series because of the difficulty defending the triple option, those were the only OOC G5 games he was competitive in.

[UNTLifer]

It makes sense to have this tomorrow.  We had the time slotted for our Signing Day press conference