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Liberty is going to do some things on the field to this run-down conference that they might have to ask forgiveness for after. Lots of low-budget schools locked into a conference with them and their high budget. If they go 13-0 and 12-1 season after season, could they actually endanger the AACs grasp on the playoff because folks will get so used to seeing them ranked?

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55 minutes ago, StealthEagle84 said:

C-USA is the new Sun Belt from 20+ years ago. A conference made up of teams making the fresh jump to D-1 football. Sad how far C-USA has fallen in the last decade. 

Yep. And we, North Texas played a major role in that fall. 

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3 minutes ago, meangreenbob said:

Yep. And we, North Texas played a major role in that fall. 

All members are guilty, not just UNT. But I will admit, having a member that is on a 13 game losing streak vs FBS teams in OOC is baaad for your conference. Having said member reach  your conference championship game is even worse.

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A lot of schools are afraid the path to FBS will be closed shortly, so any port in the storm.  

You're known by the company you keep.  So glad to be out of CUSA.  I am worried about the fact that most conference reputations seem to degenerate once we get there.

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1 hour ago, outoftown said:

Liberty is going to do some things on the field to this run-down conference that they might have to ask forgiveness for after. Lots of low-budget schools locked into a conference with them and their high budget. If they go 13-0 and 12-1 season after season, could they actually endanger the AACs grasp on the playoff because folks will get so used to seeing them ranked?

That could be true but I believe, and I could be wrong, that strength of schedule will hopefully play a major role in who gets the playoff bid. 

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6 minutes ago, untbowler said:

The ASUN is a revolving door, good grief. 

UIW and Lamar backing out has left the WAC in a mess. Would not be surprised to see the WAC and the ASUN officially merge in football.

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7 hours ago, meangreenbob said:

Yep. And we, North Texas played a major role in that fall. 

Right, because Rice, FAU, FIU, USM, and UTEP have been world beaters.  

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WKU and MTSU will probably collect all the departure fees owed them by the schools leaving for the Sun Belt and AAC and leave for the MAC. Lat Tech will probably do likewise and rejoin their local rivals in the AAC.

C-USA will then be left with fewer than the required continuing members to collect their banked NCAA Basketball credits, which will then be distributed to the schools that earned them (Yea Us!) The C-USA will be left without a media contract and no revenue stream, and a drop to 1-AA or independence awaits it's members.

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2 hours ago, Rudy said:

Right, because Rice, FAU, FIU, USM, and UTEP have been world beaters.  

Since UNT joined CUSA, Rice has won a conference championship and FAU has won two. We need to sit this one out.

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16 hours ago, ADLER said:

WKU and MTSU will probably collect all the departure fees owed them by the schools leaving for the Sun Belt and AAC and leave for the MAC. Lat Tech will probably do likewise and rejoin their local rivals in the AAC.

C-USA will then be left with fewer than the required continuing members to collect their banked NCAA Basketball credits, which will then be distributed to the schools that earned them (Yea Us!) The C-USA will be left without a media contract and no revenue stream, and a drop to 1-AA or independence awaits it's members.

I'm not so sure. The Mac wanted WKU and MTSU, but only as a pair. It was widely reported MTSU simply didn't have the money to make the jump. The exit fees are NOT very much and I doubt they are enough to fund a move. 

As for La Tech, again it is a lack of resources. SMU President Turner, who headed the AAC search committee, said in several articles the main criteria was institutional and financial support to growing their programs. He complimented UNT for being the leader among the CUSA schools moving for this commitment happening BEFORE any chance to move up happened. DOING that was why he said UNT was to first school on the expansion list even though we haven't won as much yet in football. 

La Tech seems to pride itself on doing "more with less" which is nice, but won't get a school moved up. Combine that with La Tech's reputation as a school that "doesn't work well with other schools" means they are going to have a very hard time moving anywhere. In the AAC, I've read opposition to them from Tulane, Memphis and Tulsa. La Tech must spend a lot of dollars they don't have to move up.

And the Sun Belt teams have made it very clear they don't want La Tech, at least not yet. 

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On 12/7/2022 at 5:17 AM, StealthEagle84 said:

C-USA is the new Sun Belt from 20+ years ago. A conference made up of teams making the fresh jump to D-1 football. Sad how far C-USA has fallen in the last decade. 

They get what they deserve. Imagine a 2 time conference champ being sent to a bowl game on a Friday afternoon during a legit work day. Literally, played in the last CUSA game of the year and playing in the second earliest game. 

This CUSA sucks ass...

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On 12/7/2022 at 6:12 AM, outoftown said:

Liberty is going to do some things on the field to this run-down conference that they might have to ask forgiveness for after. Lots of low-budget schools locked into a conference with them and their high budget. If they go 13-0 and 12-1 season after season, could they actually endanger the AACs grasp on the playoff because folks will get so used to seeing them ranked?

They won't have Freeze anymore, so we'll have to see how they might fall off or stay the same.  But they clearly have a money advantage AND the desire.

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1 hour ago, LitMedallion said:

They won't have Freeze anymore, so we'll have to see how they might fall off or stay the same.  But they clearly have a money advantage AND the desire.

Don't count Liberty out yet.  The still have Ian McCaw as their AD and even money for him to work. He's great at building programs. 

And, no,  he won't hire Briles. 

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28 minutes ago, VideoEagle said:

Don't count Liberty out yet.  The still have Ian McCaw as their AD and even money for him to work. He's great at building programs. 

And, no,  he won't hire Briles. 

They hired Chadwell from CC, which IMO is a fantastic hire and with being in a conference now, Liberty will be a tough out for most, because they have the money to throw at Athletics. They will dominate CUSA in most sports. 

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