K. C. Keeler makes too much Sense

[Mike Jackson]

 

I believe he is the best affordable and available hire we could make.  I really want an experienced successful FCS Head Coach (with key members from his support staff) familiar with recruiting in our state with disadvantages.  Yes I dream we could grab Gary Patterson with fire in his belly to take over DFW FBS football again.  I don't think UNT has the budget to pay the assistants he would want to bring with him.  Keeler makes under 600k right now.   We tripple his salary and he can bring the best of his staff with him and they would probably get similar raises.  He has put in the time, worked hard and been successful.  Probably better hire than Seth for UNT at the time Seth was flirting with KSU.  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._C._Keeler

That is part the reason I am furious that Seth is still here. The relationship leadership and fanbase around here is as if guys like Keeler don't exist and that Seth was our only chance to be successful.   Give this guy or someone like him 5 years, give him modest raises that don't extend his time here until they actually win some hardware or you get to year 4 and you've seen consistent improvement.  I found this guy with a Google search imagine what so called professionals should be able to do. 🤣

Edited December 5, 2022 by Mike Jackson
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[Mike Jackson]

And to the downvoters; what do you want to see?  An FCS Championship winning  head coach not good enough for UNT?   I would appreciate your thoughts as to why Keeler not good hire and who realistically in the school's budget range would be better and available.

[MeanGreenTexan]

 

“best economical hire?!?”   

[greenminer]

3 minutes ago, Mike Jackson said:

And to the downvoters; what do you want to see?  An FCS Championship winning  head coach not good enough for UNT?   I would appreciate your thoughts as to why Keeler not good hire and who realistically in the school's budget range would be better and available.

No downvote from me, but suggesting UNT needs to go with the most “economic” choice right now is not gonna go over well.

 

maybe you meant more economical than Gary, which might make sense.

[meaniegreenie]

Similarly, I found this girl with a google search. 

I told her I'd buy her a great dinner and she can bring her friends.

I've got a good feeling about this!!!

[Salsa_Verde]

46 minutes ago, Mike Jackson said:

 

I believe the best economic hire we could make.  I really want an experienced successful FCS Head Coach (with key members from his support staff) familiar with recruiting in our state with disadvantages.  Yes I dream we could grab Gary Patterson with fire in his belly to take over DFW FBS football again.  I don't think UNT has the budget to pay the assistants he would want to bring with him.  Keeler makes under 600k right now.   We tripple his salary and he can bring the best of his staff with him and they would probably get similar raises.  He has put in the time, worked hard and been successful.  Probably better hire than Seth for UNT at the time Seth was flirting with KSU.  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._C._Keeler

That is part the reason I am furious that Seth is still here. The relationship leadership and fanbase around here is as if guys like Keeler don't exist and that Seth was our only chance to be successful.   Give this guy or someone like him 5 years, give him modest raises that don't extend his time here until they actually win some hardware or you get to year 4 and you've seen consistent improvement.  I found this guy with a Google search imagine what so called professionals should be able to do. 🤣

Well seeing as SHSU is joining CUSA next year? I really don’t see this as a possibility. 

[southsideguy]

I think some people just enjoying down voting.

[GMG_Dallas]

Confused by the "economical hire" deal but he looks like a good candidate based off record. I know nothing about him otherwise. Honestly, I'll be excited for any change. You could sell me anybody but SL right now.

[p_phelps]

I'd do it!

[El Paso Eagle]

Compared to the facilities and fan support in Huntsville he would probably be ecstatic here

[zenhuddy]

Good suggestion- as for anyone questioning his level of success i.e. fcs, etc - look at what happened at Kansas and their div 3 coach - had they not lost their star QB they would have won 2-3 more games ! 

[greenb.o.g.]

I don't know anything about the man, but he's been wildly successful as a college head coach in Texas. Could be a lot worse choices.

[Mike Jackson]

2 hours ago, greenminer said:

No downvote from me, but suggesting UNT needs to go with the most “economic” choice right now is not gonna go over well.

 

maybe you meant more economical than Gary, which might make sense.

I definitely get that maybe I should have said "within our budget range".   I really hope we don't skimp on assistants just to get a "big name" at the top.   Herman may have been my choice if we went that route, I think he is top notch on straight X & Os.   You get hungry, hard worker, that are good recuirters who are currently undervalued were they are under a "big name" with great schemes and you have something.  I just would prefer a staff with an hour apparent on it when the current coach retires or moves up top P5 job.

[Billy Clyde]

I like Keeler a lot, but he’s 63…

[southsideguy]

didn't someone already hire this guy?

 

[Mean Green 93-98]

2 hours ago, zenhuddy said:

. . . had they not lost their star QB they would have won 2-3 more games ! 

This take is moronic.  Do you realize that K-State has won every game since they lost their "star QB"?

[BBA1989]

Keeler took over for Fritz after he went to Tulane.  Recruiting at Sam is tough.  Is Keeler the right guy?  I don’t know.  I went to quite a few games the last couple of years due to my youngest going to school there and all.  Does he win the championship if Trey Lance doesn’t play for NDSU in the Spring 2021 season?  Probably not.  But he is personable and can get some overlooked kids to go to Huntsville of all places.  Not sure how  Sam moving up to CUSA next season impacts him fielding looks.  Could be a good coach for UNT.  

[MeanGreen4Life1998]

Definitely one of my top options but you NEED to call Patterson first just to see what he says

[Mike Jackson]

1 minute ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

This take is moronic.  Do you realize that K-State has won every game since they lost their "star QB"?

The real question is how moronic is it to hang on to an "offensive mind coach" who can't find or coachup a good starting QB?  Or how long do you give him to prove that he can't.  You a poop pooping  this guy for not having 2 serviceable quarterbacks.  Maybe 2 rings and a couple of coach of the year awards might have you give him a pass.  🤣

[MeanGreen2019]

3 hours ago, Mike Jackson said:

And to the downvoters; what do you want to see?  An FCS Championship winning  head coach not good enough for UNT?   I would appreciate your thoughts as to why Keeler not good hire and who realistically in the school's budget range would be better and available.

Our budget is not a concern any more. It’s not 2003. 

[Mean Green 93-98]

1 minute ago, Mike Jackson said:

The real question is how moronic is it to hang on to an "offensive mind coach" who can't find or coachup a good starting QB?  Or how long do you give him to prove that he can't.  You a poop pooping  this guy for not having 2 serviceable quarterbacks.  Maybe 2 rings and a couple of coach of the year awards might have you give him a pass.  🤣

Was this somehow intended as a response to my post?  If so, you'll need to explain how.

[zenhuddy]

12 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

This take is moronic.  Do you realize that K-State has won every game since they lost their "star QB"?

I was saying KANSAS not K State 

[Mean Green 93-98]

3 minutes ago, zenhuddy said:

I was saying KANSAS not K State 

Good point.  Okay, my take was the moronic one, then.  I  sometimes forget there is a second FBS team in Kansas.  Carry on.

[Anarkissed]

Keeler is a "CEO" coach, much like Saban, Dabo, Fritz and other successful coaches. It is my understanding that he hires good coordinators and lets them do their jobs. He has been successful everywhere he has been.  

[Green Crazy]

On 12/4/2022 at 6:52 PM, zenhuddy said:

Good suggestion- as for anyone questioning his level of success i.e. fcs, etc - look at what happened at Kansas and their div 3 coach - had they not lost their star QB they would have won 2-3 more games ! 

Just a small correction...he was at Buffalo for 6 seasons prior to KU.  But, if you want to use the point for Buffalo you still could.🙂