Seth Support

[MeanGreen22]

Seems like Seth (and the Mean Green) have the support of some former players. I’ve seen a few of them change their profile pics to Seth today

 

 

[Matt from A700]

[untjim1995]

Well, I guess his former players know he’s gonna be here for the next few seasons…

[Pellom]

Interesting. 
 

I wonder if they know something we don’t. 

[untbowler]

So when will Seth start supporting UNT? Just asking, he obviously has always had a foot out the door, he's just pissed his poor coaching the past few seasons saw his foot get smashed as doors closed.

He demeanor does not attract fans or alumni to come back

[PlummMeanGreen]

Like many of you I never saw Seth Littrell as the Great Evil. Yes, there was a time I thought he might need to be replaced, but that’s somebody else’s job to do that or to re-sign him. 
 Whoever the Mean Green coach is he (but especially the MG football team) needs full support from most because of our being on the eve of American Athletic Conference membership. We all anticipate how difficult that’s going to be. 
 

GMG! 

Edited November 3, 2022 by PlummMeanGreen

[Cr1028]

55 minutes ago, untbowler said:

So when will Seth start supporting UNT? Just asking, he obviously has always had a foot out the door, he's just pissed his poor coaching the past few seasons saw his foot get smashed as doors closed.

He demeanor does not attract fans or alumni to come back

Listen to the coach’s show or better yet, walk up and talk to the man. Right now all you see are statistics and stale press conferences attended by Vito and one other person.

[GMG_Dallas]

9 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

Listen to the coach’s show or better yet, walk up and talk to the man. Right now all you see are statistics and stale press conferences attended by Vito and one other person.

I wonder if there was more press attention, he'd be a bit more energetic at press conferences. I'm not saying that's a valid excuse, I'm just thinking how dull it must be to go to press conferences and see same two faces every week. The players, including former, seem to really like him. There's a different side of SL we're not seeing.

[Cr1028]

On 11/3/2022 at 9:04 AM, GMG_Dallas said:

There's a different side of SL we're not seeing.

This is why I keep hammering on the coach’s show because he talks to Dave and Hank like old friends and doesn’t use a lot of coach speak. This is the real Littrell, not the press conference Littrell. This last week he even admitted that they were hard-headed trying to force the run against UTSA. A week or two ago he talked about how after one game an opposing coach that we won’t face again in the foreseeable future gave him a list of all the signs that our opponents had stolen and so they had to change all the signs midyear. Very interesting when you think about how different we played early vs late last year.

Edited January 7, 2023 by Cr1028
Thanks Adler

[El Paso Eagle]

What he has shown is that he does have a personality. What he has also shown is that he chooses not to share it with the fan base. That's not being against Seth that is a reality. Again, since when have the fans ever seemed to be a concern of North Texas athletics when it comes to football? Before you answer please let me know when coach has got out and interact with the fans or how the athletic department prepares the stadium for game day. 

[El Paso Eagle]

16 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

I wonder if there was more press attention, he'd be a bit more energetic at press conferences. I'm not saying that's a valid excuse, I'm just thinking how dull it must be to go to press conferences and see same two faces every week. The players, including former, seem to really like him. There's a different side of SL we're not seeing.

It should not take an audience for him to open up to the fan base and be more charismatic. 

[Cr1028]

3 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

What he has shown is that he does have a personality. What he has also shown is that he chooses not to share it with the fan base. That's not being against Seth that is a reality. Again, since when have the fans ever seemed to be a concern of North Texas athletics when it comes to football? Before you answer please let me know when coach has got out and interact with the fans or how the athletic department prepares the stadium for game day. 

Head out the Rudy’s in Denton on Tuesday night.

[Cr1028]

10 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

It should not take an audience for him to open up to the fan base and be more charismatic. 

So you want a performer, not a coach.
 

Who is your similarly situated example of a charismatic coach that opens up to the fanbase?

Edited November 4, 2022 by Cr1028

[PlummMeanGreen]

20 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

So you want a performer, not a coach.
 

Who is your similarly situated example of charismatic coach that opens up to the fanbase?

 Begging’ some fellow Cowboy fans pardons, but charismatic is not a word that I ever heard Tom Landry described as. 
Hot shot coaches come & go.  Many fizzle out once the players learn their game & charade. 
Landry stayed a long time. Others similar did to. Coach Bill Belichick seems a grumpy old man to me, but he has more damn super bowl rings than anyone. 

GMG!

Edited November 3, 2022 by PlummMeanGreen

[TheColonyEagle]

I guess I'm in the minority here....but I don't get this obsession with Littrell's personality (or lack of). Why do we care how "charismatic" the coach is? It's obvious the players like him, they're playing for him, he didn't lose the team even though he very well could have the past few years. He's recruited #1 classes before....

Of COURSE he's going to be "boring" and generic at press conferences. Is Bill Belichek a bad coach? 

I don't get the requirement that the head coach be a show man.

 

Edited November 3, 2022 by TheColonyEagle

[TheColonyEagle]

Go 11-1 and he can walk out onto Apogee with double birds in the air for all I care...

[Mike Jackson]

2 hours ago, untbowler said:

So when will Seth start supporting UNT? Just asking, he obviously has always had a foot out the door, he's just pissed his poor coaching the past few seasons saw his foot get smashed as doors closed.

He demeanor does not attract fans or alumni to come back

As much as I am Seth detractor, this criticism is a little overkill.  He can sell the program to recruits good enough to compete for conference titles.  Just win, don’t run afoul of NCAA rules, maintain academic eligibility for your best 32 players consistently and don’t have players getting into legal trouble every other year.  For a coaches “demeanor” to help get fans/alumni back he would have to be Deion Sanders like or come in with record/system that gets fans excited.  Mac was great in that regard until he started losing. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[GMG_Dallas]

1 hour ago, Cr1028 said:

So you want a performer, not a coach.
 

Who is your similarly situated example of charismatic coach that opens up to the fanbase?

 

1 hour ago, PlummMeanGreen said:

 Begging’ some fellow Cowboy fans pardons, but charismatic is not a word that I ever heard Tom Landry described as. 
Hot shot coaches come & go.  Many fizzle out once the players learn their game & charade. 
Landry stayed a long time. Others similar did to. Coach Bill Belichick seems a grumpy old man to me, but he has more damn super bowl rings than anyone. 

GMG!

 

1 hour ago, TheColonyEagle said:

Go 11-1 and he can walk out onto Apogee with double birds in the air for all I care...

Exactly to all of this.

[MGNation92]

With the recent info coming out that Seth is almost guaranteed to be fired at seasons end, I imagine it's the old players rallying behind him.

[PlummMeanGreen]

When did the 2 hands in the air bird flap begin?  Please don’t tell me at the Alamodome.😫

[El Paso Eagle]

I am hesitant to ask this question (sorry for putting it here) --- Is the Texas/Eagle logo available to the fanbase? 

 

 

[El Paso Eagle]

2 hours ago, PlummMeanGreen said:

Begging’ some fellow Cowboy fans pardons, but charismatic is not a word that I ever heard Tom Landry described as. 
Hot shot coaches come & go.  Many fizzle out once the players learn their game & charade. 
Landry stayed a long time. Others similar did to. Coach Bill Belichick seems a grumpy old man to me, but he has more damn super bowl rings than anyone. 

 

How about Seth win a freaking conference championship before you even considering him in the same message with these two?

 

2 hours ago, Cr1028 said:

Who is your similarly situated example of charismatic coach that opens up to the fanbase?

We got people all over this board saying they would like to have Deion as a coach. Is that a good enough example of what a charismatic coach can do for fans? Hearing a lot of the "Ole UNT" should be happy to have him as a coach sentiment. 7th year and barely at the .500 level (and terrible against OOC FBS). 

 

[TheColonyEagle]

2 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

We got people all over this board saying they would like to have Deion as a coach. Is that a good enough example of what a charismatic coach can do for fans? 

 

Deion is 23-5 as a head coach. Would that not have more to do with it?

If he had a losing record I'm gonna guess his charisma wouldn’t mean anything. 

[Cr1028]

6 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

We got people all over this board saying they would like to have Deion as a coach. Is that a good enough example of what a charismatic coach can do for fans? Hearing a lot of the "Ole UNT" should be happy to have him as a coach sentiment. 7th year and barely at the .500 level (and terrible against OOC FBS). 

You missed the similarly situated part. Deion has a media following independent of his coaching.

[Cr1028]

23 minutes ago, MGNation92 said:

With the recent info coming out that Seth is almost guaranteed to be fired at seasons end, I imagine it's the old players rallying behind him.

What info?