***OFFICIAL UNT vs UTSA IN-GAME DISCUSSION***

[untbowler]

2 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Ok... c'mon

just ignore the new troll. 

[The Hill]

57 minutes ago, Mike Jackson said:

We have a relative of Seth on the board.  Umm, this board isn't going to be a pleasent place to be for you.  

If I were a relative, I would be very athletic, and I can assure you I'm not athletic.

[meaniegreenie]

I feel this thread is moving to "closed" status really fast.

[Udomann]

5 minutes ago, meaniegreenie said:

I feel this thread is moving to "closed" status really fast.

Or just ban Hill and move forward happily. Guys trolling hard

[UNTLifer]

1 hour ago, jtm0097 said:

What do you got for that Frank Harris QB Draw? Or the celebration by the defense for the 4th down stop that wasn’t?

Harris is a heck of a running QB and I was celebrating as well thinking we got the stop?  Not sure what you are asking for there. 

[Side.Show.Joe]

2 hours ago, The Hill said:

SL put them in position to win. Players need to make plays. Y'all are morons to want SL gone. You're a barely mediocre school with a commuter student base. Get real

Players make the plays that coaches coach them to make. Tonight, UTSA's backups made more plays than UNT made, so we lost. Seth isn't good enough. Not at coaching. Not at recruiting. Not at retaining quality players. Littrell is a liability and should have been gone at the end of last season. And anyone that is being honest with themself knows it. I wasn't planning on signing back in tonight until I read your stupid comment.  

[Hunter Green]

My take on the game is more subdued than many if you tonight,  but I get it. We made the trip because I love the Mean Green and I love coming to San Antonio. Because of watching what Seth has rolled out there the past few years and Aunes maddening inconsistency, I have lowered my expectations when watching the games. I don't expect to see us win many games. My only expectation today was just to play well and not get humiliated. I thought we played about as well as a Seth Littrell team can play, which resulted in a loss. Yes, I believe Seth should go because he's reached his ceiling. We should be much better than where we are. I feel for the players because this should have been a win. They played their hearts out. In the end, nutsac made the plays they had to to win and we didn't. Does this get Seth out the door?  Time will tell. I'll still support our players. They are the ones who deserve it.

[emmitt01]

2 hours ago, The Hill said:

Says the man with the smallest in the entire forum. LoL

Serious question…Why are you looking?  

[greenminer]

2 hours ago, untbowler said:

just ignore the new troll. 

Y’all know he’s SMU, right? Ignore it

[untbowler]

1 minute ago, greenminer said:

Y’all know he’s SMU, right? Ignore it

I was thinking that, but you know our little ole public university education makes it tough

[El Paso Eagle]

37 minutes ago, Hunter Green said:

I don't expect to see us win many games. My only expectation today was just to play well and not get humiliated.

Sadly, this is where we are. Most fans don't expect to win games against good teams, just hope we don't get blasted.

 

39 minutes ago, Hunter Green said:

I'll still support our players. They are the ones who deserve it.

Agree, I know we get frustrated, but I have no doubt every player give 100% on the field. 

[greenminer]

A rematch could mean they have some of their roster back.

[MeanGreenDan]

8 hours ago, greenminer said:

A rematch could mean they have some of their roster back.

Remember our last conference championship rematch? It was our first exposure to the Seth Littrell Big Game Special, I believe. 

[bstnsportsfan3]

Still trying to figure out how this wasn’t a push off… 

[greenminer]

2 hours ago, bstnsportsfan3 said:

Still trying to figure out how this wasn’t a push off… 

I have seen much, much worse no-calls.

[bstnsportsfan3]

35 minutes ago, greenminer said:

I have seen much, much worse no-calls.

Me too but two wrongs don’t make a right. The call should be the call. Some UTSA fan was telling me they shouldn’t call this because they didn’t call it all game. I don’t agree

[greenminer]

18 minutes ago, bstnsportsfan3 said:

Me too but two wrongs don’t make a right. The call should be the call. Some UTSA fan was telling me they shouldn’t call this because they didn’t call it all game. I don’t agree

I don't think it was a call.  I did not see it as a call when I watched the game, and after watching the replay, I think it's maybe, if I drink tons of green koolaid.

There. I said it.

So consider this an opportunity to explain - you or anyone here - offensive PI to GM.  I'm all ears.

I'm in the camp that believes, just because there were hands on the defensive player and then some separation, that doesn't mean there was a push and, thus, offensive PI.

I see legal contact with hands, and then a WR that made a play for the ball.  there was visible separation simply because Texada's momentum continued along the original route/path, and Texada didn't jump up and away with him.  I don't see a push.  I see legal contact with hands, then an outstanding jump away from the original route to make a play towards the ball.

EDIT: you can go to the exact snap in the stadium replay @ 3:21:00

Edited October 23, 2022 by greenminer

[bstnsportsfan3]

7 minutes ago, greenminer said:

I don't think it was a call.  I did not see it as a call when I watched the game, and after watching the replay, I think it's maybe, if I drink tons of green koolaid.

There. I said it.

So consider this an opportunity to explain - you or anyone here - offensive PI to GM.  I'm all ears.

I'm in the camp that believes, just because there were hands on the defensive player and then some separation, that doesn't mean there was a push and, thus, offensive PI.

I see legal contact with hands, and then a WR that made a play for the ball.  there was visible separation simply because Texada's momentum continued along the original route/path, and Texada didn't jump up and away with him.  I don't see a push.  I see legal contact with hands, then an outstanding jump away from the original route to make a play towards the ball.

EDIT: you can go to the exact snap in the stadium replay @ 3:21:00

I watched the play last night, Texada was in the same foot stride as the WR until the hand contact. When you see the WR push, his foot path is significantly altered away from the ball. To me that is the emphasis for PI. I’d be saying the same thing if I was a UTSA fan and it happened against them. It was a bad bad missed call and that is not the green Kool aid talking. I also saw it live. 

[greenminer]

33 minutes ago, bstnsportsfan3 said:

I watched the play last night, Texada was in the same foot stride as the WR until the hand contact. When you see the WR push, his foot path is significantly altered away from the ball. To me that is the emphasis for PI. I’d be saying the same thing if I was a UTSA fan and it happened against them. It was a bad bad missed call and that is not the green Kool aid talking. I also saw it live. 

This is exactly what it looks like when you have your hands on a player, then release to jump.  Texada doesn't flail or flinch.  He just keeps going.

I guess I'll stand alone on this hill. lol

 

[correcamino]

I applaud your objectivity, greenminer. 

Would've been a very soft call if called. Both were handfighting--it's not like Texada had his hands up or anything. Texada is a great corner but it's not uncommon for great offense to beat great defense...and Clark is the best receiver in the conference and absolutely elite at high pointing the ball. Probably the only one out of UTSA's three top receivers that is a shoe-in to get drafted. 

Amazing game. I thought Littrell had a really great gameplan. This is probably how y'all felt after Fine orchestrated the drive. 

 

[Green Lantern]

30 minutes ago, greenminer said:

This is exactly what it looks like when you have your hands on a player, then release to jump.  Texada doesn't flail or flinch.  He just keeps going.

I guess I'll stand alone on this hill. lol

 

I agree. As much as I hate it, this is a no call - especially in this game situation. Keep the game out of the refs hands unless it’s egregious. We should never have allowed it to get to this point. Great play by UTSA in crunch time. 

Edited October 23, 2022 by Green Lantern

[Cr1028]

1 hour ago, greenminer said:

This is exactly what it looks like when you have your hands on a player, then release to jump.  Texada doesn't flail or flinch.  He just keeps going.

I guess I'll stand alone on this hill. lol

 

I see Texada’s path altered by 2-3 feet. He was headed for the middle of the R and is pushed off to the top of the R.

[greenminer]

1 hour ago, correcamino said:

and Clark is the best receiver in the conference and absolutely elite at high pointing the ball.

Clark had an exceptional height advantage over Texada.  Just a very heads-up play by Harris (or whoever) to anticipate that matchup, do the quick snap and just lob it up there.

Coupled with that amazing catch by your behemoth tight end, it is what it is.

Texada is my most curious player right now.  Has displayed tremendous upside.  Signs of good vision, footwork, etc.  Despite his height being exposed, I'm very excited for his future in Denton.  I hope he recovers from this.

[greenminer]

10 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

I see Texada’s path altered by 2-3 feet. He was headed for the middle of the R and is pushed off to the top of the R.

I'm trying to see this, but I don't.  Sorry.  I see several established strides, directly in line with that angled downslope of the R.

Edited October 23, 2022 by greenminer

[bstnsportsfan3]

44 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

I see Texada’s path altered by 2-3 feet. He was headed for the middle of the R and is pushed off to the top of the R.

Thank you! its clear as day!