Kason Martin returns with an amazing game!

[Tom McKrackin]

PORTALES — Junior quarterback Kason Martin threw for four touchdowns in his return to action and Eastern New Mexico University scored two early touchdowns in a span of 18 seconds on Saturday night en route to a 42-14 Lone Star Conference victory over Simon Fraser at Greyhound Stadium.

Martin, sidelined for the past two games by a shoulder injury, completed 21-of-30 passes for 274 yards, hitting junior wide receiver Asa Wondeh on scoring tosses of 45 yards and 1 yard, sophomore wide receiver Greg Thomas on an 11-yarder and sophomore tight end Bryzai White from 20 yards out. The Hounds (2-5, 1-4 LSC) snapped a five-game losing streak with their first victory since a season-opening 34-18 triumph at New Mexico Highlands on Sept. 1.

[Cr1028]

Great job Kason!

Looks like the Mazin for Kason trade worked out well for both players and both teams.

[El Paso Eagle]

4 hours ago, Tom McKrackin said:

PORTALES — Junior quarterback Kason Martin threw for four touchdowns in his return to action and Eastern New Mexico University scored two early touchdowns in a span of 18 seconds on Saturday night en route to a 42-14 Lone Star Conference victory over Simon Fraser at Greyhound Stadium.

Martin, sidelined for the past two games by a shoulder injury, completed 21-of-30 passes for 274 yards, hitting junior wide receiver Asa Wondeh on scoring tosses of 45 yards and 1 yard, sophomore wide receiver Greg Thomas on an 11-yarder and sophomore tight end Bryzai White from 20 yards out. The Hounds (2-5, 1-4 LSC) snapped a five-game losing streak with their first victory since a season-opening 34-18 triumph at New Mexico Highlands on Sept. 1.

Wonder if the same people down voting an update on a player that it seems never said a bad thing or took a parting shot at UNT paid their tributes to the Murphy twins in their multi page thread? 

[Mike Jackson]

No downvote from me but I did give an eyeroll.  😂.   But the fascination with players who transfered out of here and weren't good when they were here is a little confusing.  🤷🏽‍♂️.  Best of luck to all the young men that tried their best here.  But if you are stepping down to FCS, I don't see why anyone cares who doesn't know him personally or have ties to his highschool or the college he transfered to.  🤷🏽‍♂️

[peanuts104]

1 minute ago, Mike Jackson said:

weren't good when they were here is a little confusing.

He was never given a fair shot.

[El Paso Eagle]

2 minutes ago, Mike Jackson said:

No downvote from me but I did give an eyeroll.  😂.   But the fascination with players who transfered out of here and weren't good when they were here is a little confusing.  🤷🏽‍♂️.  Best of luck to all the young men that tried their best here.  But if you are stepping down to FCS, I don't see why anyone cares who doesn't know him personally or have ties to his highschool or the college he transfered to.  🤷🏽‍♂️

When it comes to QB's how do you know if they were good? I have a feeling there are a lot of FCS QBs better than what we have.

 

[Mike Jackson]

4 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

When it comes to QB's how do you know if they were good? I have a feeling there are a lot of FCS QBs better than what we have.

 

Good point.  Yes, he probably wasn't given a fair shot, I don't know timeline of his overlap time on the roster with Mason Fine.  However it doesn't matter,  I don't need any more evidence to be disappointed in the ability of this coaching staff to coach the passing game.   I just rather wish Kason well and not be depressed about another talent wasted here.  😂

Edited October 17, 2022 by Mike Jackson

[peanuts104]

16 minutes ago, Mike Jackson said:

Good point.  Yes, he probably wasn't given a fair shot, I don't know timeline of his overlap time on the roster with Mason Fine.  However it doesn't matter,  I don't need any more evidence to be disappointed in the ability of this coaching staff to coach the passing game.   I just rather wish Kason well and not be depressed about another talent wasted here.  😂

If you remember the 2018 season bowl game against Utah State, junior QB Mason Fine went down in that game. If I remember correctly, we tried with both Shanbour and Bean as backups in the first half. Enter freshman QB Kason Martin in the second half and see the results on the stat sheet, not great, but for a freshman thrown into the fire, not terrible either. 

Mason goes on to play his 2019 season. Then we had Aune and Bean battle it out in 2020 to terrible results, with no chance given to Martin. Last year, we had Aune and Ruder battle it out, again, with no chance given to Martin. I don't know what happened or how we didn't even give him a shot in the 20 and 21 QB battle ****shows, but the fact they didn't even put him in a game after showing competence on field vs Utah State is very confusing to me.

[Cr1028]

1 hour ago, peanuts104 said:

He was never given a fair shot.

Right, and neither was Cade Pearson or any other 3rd stringer we’ve ever had. Get real man, the kid has a great deep ball but his arm isn’t strong enough to complete short to medium throws at the fbs level. He just doesn’t have the velocity to fit the ball into tight windows. I don’t want to disrespect the kid but don’t make him out to be the missing link because he wasn’t. He went 7 of 33 for 55 yards and a pick against Tarleton.

[peanuts104]

Just now, Cr1028 said:

He went 7 of 33 for 55 yards and a pick against Tarleton.

One bad game against a team with better talent. There is NO reason we shouldn't have put him on the field with our QB issues in 2020 and 2021. 

[Cr1028]

7 minutes ago, peanuts104 said:

One bad game against a team with better talent. There is NO reason we shouldn't have put him on the field with our QB issues in 2020 and 2021. 

Did you forget he got strip sacked twice against Utah State?

And you are going to give him a pass because Tarleton “has better talent” than ENMU but don’t give the same benefit to the guys you suggest Martin should’ve taken reps from? He obviously wasn’t better than Bean or he’d be starting in the Big12 and not D2. Martin’s only other offer after going to the state title game was TAMU-Commerce. That should tell you everything you need to know about why he didn’t get a “fair shot”.

Edited October 17, 2022 by Cr1028

[peanuts104]

24 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

Did you forget he got strip sacked twice against Utah State?

Never said he played a perfect game. Far from it.

25 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

He obviously wasn’t better than Bean or he’d be starting in the Big12 and not D2.

If I'm not mistaken, the primary reason he went to ENMU was proximity to his wife's job.

25 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

Martin’s only other offer after going to the state title game was TAMU-Commerce.

Tell that to Bailey Zappe. 

[Cr1028]

4 minutes ago, peanuts104 said:

Never said he played a perfect game. Far from it.

If I'm not mistaken, the primary reason he went to ENMU was proximity to his wife's job.

Tell that to Bailey Zappe. 

Bailey Zappe wouldn’t need your excuse about teams with better talent. Works fine for people like McNulty and Greer though.

[peanuts104]

Just now, Cr1028 said:

Bailey Zappe wouldn’t need your excuse about teams with better talent. Works fine for people like McNulty and Greer though.

And I can't believe you're trusting our coaching staff's QB judgment considering they clearly can't evaluate or develop QB talent. Harrell must have seen something to bring him here.

[Mike Jackson]

On 10/16/2022 at 10:06 PM, Cr1028 said:

Bailey Zappe wouldn’t need your excuse about teams with better talent. Works fine for people like McNulty and Greer though.

After watching the backup at Kansas throw better passes against Oklahoma on the road than Aune threw at home this Saturday, I don’t know why anyone trust this offensive coaching staff to find and develop QB talent. Definitely not enough to take a side in this debate.  In 2 games Bean played against TCU and then OU on the road.  He has 7 TDS and 3 Interceptions and completing over 60%.  Bean also has more rushing yards in his limited play than Aune has this whole season taking virtually every snap.   Yet is debatable on GMG that Bean isn’t better than Aune?  If it is then there is an equal possibility that Martin is better than you think.  I don’t know anything except what the numbers say and plays I watch.  Aune isn’t good.  And if they don’t have someone better the people in charge of getting QB talent and develop it should have been fired a long time ago.  🤷🏽‍♂️

[Cr1028]

8 hours ago, Mike Jackson said:

After watching the backup at Kansas throw better passes against Oklahoma on the road than Aune threw at home this Saturday, I don’t know why anyone trust this offensive coaching staff to find and develop QB talent. Definitely not enough to take a side in this debate.  In 2 games Bean played against TCU and then OU on the road.  He has 7 TDS and 3 Interceptions and completing over 60%.  Bean also has more rushing yards in his limited play than Aune has this whole season taking virtually every snap.   Yet is debatable on GMG that Bean isn’t better than Aune?  If it is then there is an equal possibility that Martin is better than you think.  I don’t know anything except what the numbers say and plays I watch.  Aune isn’t good.  And if they don’t have someone better the people in charge of getting QB talent and develop it should have been fired a long time ago.  🤷🏽‍♂️

If you are going to say they can’t develop quarterbacks, you have to give Aune that benefit too as Martin (when not facing “better” competition) and Bean have played better for their new schools than they did here. It may be fair to assume Aune would perform better under different coaching too.

If you are going to say that they can’t get quarterback talent then you have to dismiss all three as untalented regardless of their play since leaving.

[Mike Jackson]

On 10/18/2022 at 8:37 AM, Cr1028 said:

If you are going to say that they can’t get quarterback talent then you have to dismiss all three as untalented regardless of their play since leaving.

Bottom line offensive passing game coach is absolutely deplorable.  And has been ever since Harrell left.  It so bad we don’t know how talented these guys are unless they get on the field with better coaching somewhere else.  It a very disappointing state of affairs especially if they can’t win one of the next road games partially due to an anemic inefficient passing game, with “Let it Fly” at the helm.  🤦🏽‍♂️

Edited October 20, 2022 by Mike Jackson

[Jason Howeth]

On 10/16/2022 at 8:16 PM, peanuts104 said:

He was never given a fair shot.

By this logic, neither was I, man. How dare the coaching staff make depth chart decisions based on the talent in front of them and results from practice. I demand a scholarship NOW!

[Cr1028]

2 hours ago, Mike Jackson said:

Bottom line offensive passing game coach is absolutely deplorable.  And has been ever since Harrell left.  It so bad we don’t know how talented these guys are unless they get on the field with better coaching somewhere else.  It a very disappointing state of affairs unless they can’t win one of the next road games partially due to an anemic inefficient passing game, with “Let it Fly” at the helm.  🤦🏽‍♂️

That is probably true but that doesn’t make the case for the “anybody but Aune” train.

[El Paso Eagle]

51 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

That is probably true but that doesn’t make the case for the “anybody but Aune” train.

Not so much a "anybody but Aune" as it is a case of what are we doing to game test other to see what they can do, or to make sure they are not shell shocked when they get in. I see a lot of games where the backup QB gets in late in the game when they are quite a bit ahead or behind to give them game time experience. UTSA did this last week early in the fourth. Maybe this way when a QB has to go in (for whatever reason) they are more prepared. 

 

3 hours ago, Cr1028 said:

If you are going to say they can’t develop quarterbacks, you have to give Aune that benefit too as Martin (when not facing “better” competition) and Bean have played better for their new schools than they did here. It may be fair to assume Aune would perform better under different coaching too.

Valid points and we will never know how Aune might have progressed with someone like GH. Does not seem we have had one QB transfer in and improve his game under Seth. Mason had GH, but after he left, even though he put up big numbers, did he play better? Not sure why we do not have an experienced QB coach (sorry, can't buy the "there might not be one available")

[UNTLifer]

We've been McKracked again.

[Mike Jackson]

On 10/18/2022 at 11:00 AM, Cr1028 said:

That is probably true but that doesn’t make the case for the “anybody but Aune” train.

It isn’t about Aune.   No QB is likely to well hear with subpar coaching unless they are absolutely special.  We could scarcely afford to get less out of the passing games and beat mediocre teams let alone actually good teams.  Maybe one of the guys on the bench is special and can overcome the subpar coaching to complete 60% of passes every game and maintain a 2-1 TD to Int ratio.  We will never find out (as extremely unlikely as it is)unless they at least play a half in a competitive game against FBS level competition.   At this point is like arguing against spending $4 a week on Powerball only during the weeks the jackpot is 300 million. That $28 a year isn't going to make a difference in your 401k especially if your over 40.  🤣.    That being said I would like to see the other talent we have than bank on Aune's play getting us 7-5 or 6-6 and a crappy bowl we get soundly defeat in or worse yet blown out in again.  We have very little to lose.  And most likely less after these next 2 road games.

Edited October 20, 2022 by Mike Jackson