Minimum number of wins for consideration

[Green Otaku]

What record would you need to see to consider keeping SL? 

For me it's 8-4 to even think about seeing him next year. 7-5 isn't going to cut it, so in my eyes he has 2 more losses until he should be gone. 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

If he can get to 8-5 WITH a bowl trophy I could stomach a very short extension. That is and should be the bare minimum watermark. 

[Green Otaku]

3 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

If he can get to 8-5 WITH a bowl trophy I could stomach a very short extension. That is and should be the bare minimum watermark. 

This becomes tricky, because 8-5 would mean you either went 8-4 and lost the bowl game or 7-5 and went to a bowl game and won. This could put you in the same position as last year with 7-6 if you don't win the bowl, and late in the race to get the best options out there. I say if loss #5 happens you drop the axe then and there. 

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

Win out, but that won’t happen.

Losing to UTSA, UAB and WKU are almost certain at this point. There’s 6 losses.

Gotta win vs Rice/FAU/LaTech 

[MGNation92]

Well we have 3 losses, so 9-3

10-3 after a bowl win. No trophy, no extension.

Of course he'd have to win the rest of the way to get to that point, which ain't happening anyways.

[MeanGreenTexan]

How 'bout he gets back to his own 9-win regular season standard he set for himself?   

That would require either winning out, or I'd even allow a loss with a CCG win to get to 9.

[southsideguy]

he could win the rest of the games and I would not keep him.  He struck out twice against AAC teams and got destroyed by UNLV that is toward the bottom of MWC. No bowl wins.

Plus he refuses to hire a qb coach.

Edited September 28, 2022 by southsideguy

[Green Otaku]

6 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

he could win the rest of the games and I would not keep him.  He struck out twice against AAC teams and got destroyed by UNLV that is toward the bottom of MWC. No bowl wins.

 

Although it is very unlikely, winning out would get you to 10-3 with a CUSA championship, even then it'd be a no for you? I think that'd be a hard sell even for those of us that have been wanting change. 

[MeanGreen22]

The win/loss isnt what I'm looking for. The bowl win is where I'm sitting. 6-6, 8-4.. idc. Get the bowl win and we'll talk (and even then, prob not enough at this point)

[southsideguy]

Yes it would still be a no for me.   He can beat CUSA teams but cant win outside the conference.  Seven years with a 500 winning pct is all I need to know.  I don't want to be in the middle of the pack or the bottom of pack when we go to the AAC.  Plus I am tried of being embarrassed by SMUT.   

[UNTcrazy727]

5 minutes ago, MeanGreen22 said:

The win/loss isnt what I'm looking for. The bowl win is where I'm sitting. 6-6, 8-4.. idc. Get the bowl win and we'll talk (and even then, prob not enough at this point)

Why do bowl wins mean so much to you? Nowadays, they’re no more important than a regular season game. 

[UNTcrazy727]

8-5 is the worst he can do. Anything less and he needs to go. 

[UNTcrazy727]

35 minutes ago, MGNation92 said:

Well we have 3 losses, so 9-3

10-3 after a bowl win. No trophy, no extension.

Of course he'd have to win the rest of the way to get to that point, which ain't happening anyways.

We’ve never won 10 games in program history. That’s an absurd bar to make Littrell meet. 

[MrAlien]

if he is 3-3 on Sunday, then I think he gets an extension.  Thats the midway point of the season, the 3 losses would have been to schools that were expected to beat UNT.  I dont think you can wait until the end of the season to determine that you need a new head coach for next season. 

[2020 Sucks]

I’m done…don’t care how many wins.  He hates the fans, he’s terrible with the media, and he is Eyore.  And I don’t think he understands how the portal works.  Nobody I know ever sees him out in Denton and I don’t think he does a good job of selling Denton.  When the basketball coach can get the fans more excited about football than the actual football coach does, he’s not the right guy for the job.

[TripleGrad]

If he wins the conference,  I will accept his resignation.  Otherwise, fire him.

In no event do we need SL here when the program moves to the AAC.  Let's face it, we're already going to be a bad team year 1 of that conference, so delaying the inevitable doesn't make anything better for anyone.

[Wag Tag]

I had 3 points I wanted to see this season 1. Develop a qb 2. Don’t get blown out by non P5 members 3. 8 wins. Having failed dramatically on 1&2 I think it is time for change. Can’t go into the AAC with this baggage.

[NTSU52]

2 hours ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

Why do bowl wins mean so much to you? Nowadays, they’re no more important than a regular season game. 

Well it is guaranteed to be on National TV and the winner receives a very nice check. So to me it seems like actually winning one would be something we would really want to do. Especially since we have only won THREE in 100+ years of football.

Edited September 28, 2022 by NTSU52

[El Paso Eagle]

Can we file this thread in the ONLY AT NORTH TEXAS section

It is time for a change, please stop trying to justify a reason to keep Seth. Do you care so little about UNT?

[Matt from A700]

Let him finish his contract into 2023: Winning regular season record + bowl win

Extend him past 2023: 8+ wins, winning conference record + competitive bowl performance

[Matt from A700]

2 hours ago, Green Otaku said:

What record would you need to see to consider keeping SL? 

For me it's 8-4 to even think about seeing him next year. 7-5 isn't going to cut it, so in my eyes he has 2 more losses until he should be gone. 

There is going to be so much Eagle puke in this thread, it's going to look like my park in Roller Coaster Tycoon.

[El Paso Eagle]

2 hours ago, Green Otaku said:

What record would you need to see to consider keeping SL? 

For me it's 8-4 to even think about seeing him next year. 7-5 isn't going to cut it, so in my eyes he has 2 more losses until he should be gone. 

[BillySee58]

4 more wins (FAU, La Tech, FIU, Rice) plus a couple more moral victories would put us at 6-6 overall record but 8-4 moral, arguably 9-3 moral record. Plus whatever the bowl game would bring. 

I could get behind an extension with that type of moral record.

[NorthTexasWeLove]

5 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:

4 more wins (FAU, La Tech, FIU, Rice) plus a couple more moral victories would put us at 6-6 overall record but 8-4 moral, arguably 9-3 moral record. Plus whatever the bowl game would bring. 

I could get behind an extension with that type of moral record.

Moral record? 

[Green Otaku]

18 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Can we file this thread in the ONLY AT NORTH TEXAS section

It is time for a change, please stop trying to justify a reason to keep Seth. Do you care so little about UNT?

 

This isn't a thread to justify keeping him, if you think I'm one of the people who are advocating he stay you're wrong. The point of this thread is to gauge where people think the axe should come down. Some in here clearly think it should have happened already, but if for some reason he has a miracle run and goes 9-3 would any program really let their coach go?