A Silver lining from the SMU beating?

GreenEggs&Ham™ · September 4, 2022

2 hours ago, meangreenbob said:

Our program is nothing more than a “cash cow” for the good ole boys club. No accountability

Oh, and let me put that 1.8 million in terms one might better understand.

That's $150,000 a month!

$37,500 a week!!!

Think we aren’t being taken for fools?

Very glad that you posted this because this and DentonStang's comments above are exactly what I believe to be wrong at UNT. This is nothing new and dates back to the early 1980's I believe.

North Texas needs an ironclad ethics policy and enforcement level compliance program in their athletic dept.

There is NO accountability and lots of Money floating around NT athletics. It's not a lack of money at NT at least not up to this point in our history.

For those of you that work in the private sector, tell me you're a$$ would not be fired from a company where you were paid these kinds of salaries and you produced such mediocre results.

southsideguy · September 4, 2022

2 hours ago, meangreenbob said:

It’s difficult to fire a friend.

What’s even worse is putting that friendship above the good of the program and the FANS!

Its even difficult to fire your starting qb at UNT.

GMG_Dallas · September 4, 2022

28 minutes ago, GreenEggs&Ham™ said:

North Texas needs an ironclad ethics policy and enforcement level compliance program in their athletic dept.

"I think you're right but we don't have the budget for a compliance program." - somebody, probably.

TCC Mean Green · September 4, 2022

Maybe we just need a coach who cares…he haas no emotion…has he ever chewed out anyone? Look at coach Bennett and KD Davis…..just no freaking PASSION!!!

GrandGreen · September 4, 2022

3 hours ago, GreenEggs&Ham™ said:

Very glad that you posted this because this and DentonStang's comments above are exactly what I believe to be wrong at UNT. This is nothing new and dates back to the early 1980's I believe.

North Texas needs an ironclad ethics policy and enforcement level compliance program in their athletic dept.

There is NO accountability and lots of Money floating around NT athletics. It's not a lack of money at NT at least not up to this point in our history.

For those of you that work in the private sector, tell me you're a$$ would not be fired from a company where you were paid these kinds of salaries and you produced such mediocre results.

Most in the private industry, do not have contracts. Makes a lot of difference.

FYI, there are lots of people in the private industry who would be fired if not for connections.

I have no idea what an ironclad ethics policy and enforcement policy has to do with NT athletes. Please explain

greenminer · September 4, 2022

4 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

"I think you're right but we don't have the budget for a compliance program." - somebody, probably.

"baseball first" - 2nd somebody.

Rudy · September 4, 2022

8 hours ago, Tom McKrackin said:

I have a new appreciation for Tom Hermann after him calling our game. My only fear is if he didn’t want the job after seeing how far Seth has run it into the ground.

Any coach we look at should have the fire to look at us and welcome the challenge. I'm not sure how much of a "challenge" it is considering the resources a new coach would have compared to previous coaches. If they're "scared" of how far SL has run this program "into the ground", I wouldn't want them anyways.

UNTLifer · September 6, 2022

On 9/4/2022 at 1:38 PM, TCC Mean Green said:

Maybe we just need a coach who cares…he haas no emotion…has he ever chewed out anyone? Look at coach Bennett and KD Davis…..just no freaking PASSION!!!

Umm, and potentially make someone's girlfriend cry?

The Big Bang Theory Young Sheldon GIF by CBS

untjim1995 · September 6, 2022

On 9/4/2022 at 9:00 AM, Tom McKrackin said:

But UTSA doesn’t have the funding either not near the facilities and yet they can hang with teams like UofH and win championships. Give me a break with all that.

UTSA has zero history of losing and has a city that had no FBS team in its boundaries. Their civic pride and their corporate neighbors have all been able to build that place up in a way that we can't do.

UNTcrazy727 · September 6, 2022

5 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

UTSA has zero history of losing and has a city that had no FBS team in its boundaries. Their civic pride and their corporate neighbors have all been able to build that place up in a way that we can't do.

What have the built up exactly? They were a mediocre program no funding before Traylor arrived. Now they're a good program with no funding. Outside of football, their athletic department is a dumpster fire. The fan base has no faith in their athletics director. When Traylor leaves they very well could fall right back to being a losing program.

They have not passed us by in terms of facilities, admin support, and alumni donations. IMO, we have an infrastructure in place to be better long term than they do.

untjim1995 · September 6, 2022

6 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

What have the built up exactly? They were a mediocre program no funding before Traylor arrived. Now they're a good program with no funding. Outside of football, their athletic department is a dumpster fire. The fan base has no faith in their athletics director. When Traylor leaves they very well could fall right back to being a losing program.

They have not passed us by in terms of facilities, admin support, and alumni donations. IMO, we have an infrastructure in place to be better long term than they do.

You're correct on all of that..

But their alumni haven't been conditioned to not even care anymore like ours have for decades because of a combo of losing and being told to not care. Nor do they have a problem getting civic support, corporate sponsorships, and the biggest advantage which is media coverage.

keith · September 7, 2022

On 9/4/2022 at 10:17 AM, DentonStang said:

SMU has always had money, but we were a complete trainwreck for 25 years. It's not program money or NIL(except most recent transfer class) that has elevated us. It's structural support from the university and good coach hires. But even a good coach looks incompetent without admin support. That's where you need to look to improve. That's why UTSA is going from nothing to blowing by you with NO money or facilities or history.

Where does, say, Chad Morris, rank on that list of “good coach hires?”

DentonStang · September 7, 2022

39 minutes ago, keith said:

Where does, say, Chad Morris, rank on that list of “good coach hires?”

Not Nick Saban, but he left the program better than he found it and was reasonably competent. He went as far as he was capable and left at the right time. Can't say that about any pre-June Jones hire like Bennett or Cavan.

keith · September 8, 2022

1 hour ago, DentonStang said:

Not Nick Saban, but he left the program better than he found it and was reasonably competent. He went as far as he was capable and left at the right time. Can't say that about any pre-June Jones hire like Bennett or Cavan.

.389 winning percentage <> Nick Saban. That checks out.

NT80 · September 8, 2022

3 hours ago, DentonStang said:

Not Nick Saban, but he left the program better than he found it and was reasonably competent. He went as far as he was capable and left at the right time. Can't say that about any pre-June Jones hire like Bennett or Cavan.

Ask Arkansas their opinion of Chad Morris; lol.

untjim1995 · September 8, 2022

27 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Ask Arkansas their opinion of Chad Morris; lol.

Hey, we got posters here who’ve expressed having Chad Morris be our next head coach…think about that for a minute.

greenminer · September 8, 2022

55 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Ask Arkansas their opinion of Chad Morris; lol.

I personally loved Chad Morris as Arkansas HC.

Texas Stranger · September 8, 2022

On 9/4/2022 at 9:23 AM, Coffee and TV said:

Is this a haiku?

Doesn't look like it

But it could have been, you know

If they'd tried harder

DentonStang · September 8, 2022

10 hours ago, NT80 said:

Ask Arkansas their opinion of Chad Morris; lol.

We probably have the same opinion. After some of the unbelievably incompetent and dysfunctional programs we have had to deal with, Morris can be both a moderate improvement for us and a disaster in the SEC.

Jonnyeagle · September 8, 2022

On 9/4/2022 at 1:38 PM, TCC Mean Green said:

Maybe we just need a coach who cares…he haas no emotion…has he ever chewed out anyone? Look at coach Bennett and KD Davis…..just no freaking PASSION!!!

I tend to agree with you. A good coach would hold these people accountable.

southsideguy · September 8, 2022

I thought tom Trieb played a much better game against SMU than he did at the UTEP . I think he will be trouble for the other teams in the rest of the games.

UNT Texas Hooligan · September 8, 2022

On 9/4/2022 at 5:52 PM, Rudy said:

Any coach we look at should have the fire to look at us and welcome the challenge. I'm not sure how much of a "challenge" it is considering the resources a new coach would have compared to previous coaches. If they're "scared" of how far SL has run this program "into the ground", I wouldn't want them anyways.

Agreed. Any coach worth their weight in anything will look at the most bottom of the barrel programs and believe they can turn it around. Coaches are cocky SOBs like that.

untjim1995 · September 8, 2022

8 minutes ago, UNT Texas Hooligan said:

Agreed. Any coach worth their weight in anything will look at the most bottom of the barrel programs and believe they can turn it around. Coaches are cocky SOBs like that.

The problem, though, is NIL. SMU and Tulane have deep pockets to buy recruits, while Memphis and UTSA have big corporate sponsors to help with this. I can't imagine Temple, Tulsa, and Rice wouldn't be the same as SMU and Tulane if they want to do that. And USF, UAB, and Charlotte also have the same opportunities that Memphis and UTSA have taken advantage of with corporate sponsors helping the programs.

Coaches are cocky, but anyone who looks at this place and thinks we can compete with teams that are buying players and have coaching staffs making double what we pay, that's gonna be bordering on insanity.

untbowler · September 8, 2022

next coach take a look at snagging Mo. State Coach, just put in a clause no motorcycling with blondes GA's and keep it in his pants.

UNTcrazy727 · September 8, 2022

1 hour ago, untjim1995 said:

The problem, though, is NIL. SMU and Tulane have deep pockets to buy recruits, while Memphis and UTSA have big corporate sponsors to help with this. I can't imagine Temple, Tulsa, and Rice wouldn't be the same as SMU and Tulane if they want to do that. And USF, UAB, and Charlotte also have the same opportunities that Memphis and UTSA have taken advantage of with corporate sponsors helping the programs.

Coaches are cocky, but anyone who looks at this place and thinks we can compete with teams that are buying players and have coaching staffs making double what we pay, that's gonna be bordering on insanity.

You keep referencing these lucrative corporate sponsorships for UTSA. Mind expanding on that?