Can someone explain why Phil yells so much?

[meangreenfaninno]

I dunno if he was having an off night or what the deal was but I’ve never seen a coach yelling and being so confrontational with his team.  What is the purpose of that behavior?

Edited August 28, 2022 by meangreenfaninno

[Cr1028]

3 minutes ago, meangreenfaninno said:

I dunno if he was having an off sight or what the deal was but I’ve never seen a coach yelling and being so confrontational with his team.  What is the purpose of that behavior?

That is about the only type of coaching I received in high school. It is supposed to get your attention so you go out and aggressively correct your mistakes.

[RBP79]

Just his way of making corrections....seemed to work last night.

[greenminer]

PB has always been like that. Love his passion and the expectation for accountability.

[Matt from A700]

I mean, he has to yell for himself, and he has to do the yelling for Googly Eye Littrell.

[NT80]

4 minutes ago, meangreenfaninno said:

I dunno if he was having an off sight or what the deal was but I’ve never seen a coach yelling and being so confrontational with his team.  What is the purpose of that behavior?

I think he gets paid by the yell.   Seriously, he does it every game, but most times players seem to deserve it.   They just seem undisciplined in games too many times....so he yells.  Wouldn't you have some of these conservations with players "before" real game situations? 

[SilverEagle]

Old school coaching style.....although I have seen younger coaches do the same. The bottom line is results. Does the defense respond to his style? Do the players like and respect him? 

That's all that really matters.

 

[GrandGreen]

54 minutes ago, meangreenfaninno said:

I dunno if he was having an off sight or what the deal was but I’ve never seen a coach yelling and being so confrontational with his team.  What is the purpose of that behavior?

Gee, maybe the purpose is to get over his points and make the players better. 

After some of those absolutely stupid penalties, the players deserved to be benched; they are lucky apparently that NT doesn't have the depth to do that. 

Edited August 28, 2022 by GrandGreen

[greenminer]

7 minutes ago, NT80 said:

I think he gets paid by the yell.   Seriously, he does it every game, but most times players seem to deserve it.   They just seem undisciplined in games too many times....so he yells.  Wouldn't you have some of these conservations with players "before" real game situations? 

Well, I would want perfection coming into every game day, but that doesn’t exist across any of CFB.  Players mess up and they need to be told it is not acceptable.

[Andrew]

25 minutes ago, meangreenfaninno said:

I dunno if he was having an off sight or what the deal was but I’ve never seen a coach yelling and being so confrontational with his team.  What is the purpose of that behavior?

Tell me ya didn’t play sports without telling me… also you don’t watch Mac? He smashed two clipboards to pieces in one game…. these guys would get a lot worse in the military. They need to toughen up and follow authority if they wana win and I know Phil wants to win. 

[jtm0097]

Because our LBs were getting roughing the passer calls, Whitlock was taunting the WR that he made a good play on, not sure what Rod Brown did but he was on him as well. Some of these guys need the tough coaching. I mean this type of action would not work in the corporate world, but football is an alpha sport. 

[UNT Texas Hooligan]

20 minutes ago, Andrew said:

Tell me ya didn’t play sports without telling me… also you don’t watch Mac? He smashed two clipboards to pieces in one game…. these guys would get a lot worse in the military. They need to toughen up and follow authority if they wana win and I know Phil wants to win. 

Lol, I went to some games where away fans were openly commenting on how much Mac was going off on his players. While playing, coaches would always tell me that they do it because they care. Players should really worry if the coach says nothing to them because then they either don’t care or don’t see anymore promise in that player

[PlummMeanGreen]

Tough love?  
My HS football coach was a screamer God rest his soul. 
 

GMG!

[RBP79]

I'm ok with it since I've been on the receiving end of these types of motivational one on ones and I tried to correct my mistakes.. Some players can't take it.....probably why a couple of defensive players left after last year.

[Talon90]

1 hour ago, GrandGreen said:

Gee, maybe the purpose is to get over his points and make the players better. 

After some of those absolutely stupid penalties, the players deserved to be benched; they are lucky apparently that NT doesn't have the depth to do that. 

[cousin oliver]

1 hour ago, GrandGreen said:

Gee, maybe the purpose is to get over his points and make the players better. 

After some of those absolutely stupid penalties, the players deserved to be benched; they are lucky apparently that NT doesn't have the depth to do that. 

Yes but I agree that he could tone it down a bit.  It's just a bad look and it upset my girlfriend quite a bit when we were watching the game.

Give the guy some metal balls and you would have swore you were looking at Captain Queeg investigating missing strawberries last night.

 

[MeanMag]

20 minutes ago, cousin oliver said:

Yes but I agree that he could tone it down a bit.  It's just a bad look and it upset my girlfriend quite a bit when we were watching the game.

Give the guy some metal balls and you would have swore you were looking at Captain Queeg investigating missing strawberries last night.

 

I've seen you post this in 2 separate threads. Your girlfriend getting upset about it sounds silly.

I have not ever given second thought to coaches who yell. Times change, though, so I guess I could see people getting upset about it.

Sports and gameday atmospheres are one of the last places it is socially acceptable and encourages yelling, when you think about it. Which is why I cannot understand...

[Coffee and TV]

2 hours ago, NT80 said:

I think he gets paid by the yell.   Seriously, he does it every game, but most times players seem to deserve it.   They just seem undisciplined in games too many times....so he yells.  Wouldn't you have some of these conservations with players "before" real game situations? 

It's all coaches of his era know how to do. I was a ballboy in 7th grade for the varsity team, we were playing up in 3A even though we didn't have the enrollment for it. Despite still finishing 2nd in the district to the #2 team in the state, at halftime the head coach acted like they had just lost half their platoon in Vietnam and that was my moment when I knew I wasn't gonna bother after junior high. But yeah, I guess for people who are at the scholarship level they let it roll off of them. 

Edited August 28, 2022 by Coffee and TV

[UNT 90 Grad]

[MeanMag]

3 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

It's all coaches of his era know how to do. I was a ballboy in 7th grade for the varsity team, we were playing up in 3A even though we didn't have the enrollment for it. Despite still finishing 2nd in the district to the #2 team in the state, at halftime the head coach acted like they had just lost half their platoon in Vietnam and that was my moment when I knew I wasn't gonna bother after junior high. But yeah, I guess for people who are at the scholarship level they let it roll off of them. 

PB seems to know more than that. Someone should ask him, honestly. He cares. I wonder if it is something he is not proud of.

[emmitt01]

I agree.  I’ll be immediately requesting that Wren give the players a designated safe space at Apogee.   Some place where they are immune from having voices raised at them, and don’t have to worry about being told to perform better.  
 

I’m thinking the place could look like this…

 

[Dannymacfan]

2 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

I agree.  I’ll be immediately requesting that Wren give the players a designated safe space at Apogee.   Some place where they are immune from having voices raised at them, and don’t have to worry about being told to perform better.  
 

I’m thinking the place could look like this…

 

😂😂

[Cr1028]

4 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

I agree.  I’ll be immediately requesting that Wren give the players a designated safe space at Apogee.   Some place where they are immune from having voices raised at them, and don’t have to worry about being told to perform better.  
 

I’m thinking the place could look like this…

 

[Hunter Green]

27 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

I agree.  I’ll be immediately requesting that Wren give the players a designated safe space at Apogee.   Some place where they are immune from having voices raised at them, and don’t have to worry about being told to perform better.  
 

I’m thinking the place could look like this…

 

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Being old school myself, I have absolutely no problem with it. As long as it relates to football. If a football player can't take a butt chewing for a screw up they did all last year and they're still doing it, they're in the wrong sport. Maybe try the chess club if you want something less intense.

Edited August 28, 2022 by Hunter Green

[Green Crazy]

I grew up with this coaching and didn't mind it and if I had a son in sports I wouldn't mind him having a coach like this, but this type of coaching has a short shelf life. Even if you're doing well it gets old and his career reflects that, not being at the same place for very long in a 40 plus year career (i know other things can playinto that).  This is a different world whether we like it or not and most kids don't want to play for someone who is tomato faced so much.

Maybe this was a rough game for him and he doesn't get in the red much more this season. I sit in front of the defensive bench at home games and he didn't do this too often from what I remember.