SMU -ACC?

[dodgefan]

Adding TV sets to the ACC’s footprint is a clear path to opening the possibility of “renegotiating” the current TV revenue deal with ESPN. There simply aren’t many schools that bring to the table what the ACC needs, including academic standing, market size, geographic fit.

Southern Methodist University located in Dallas is perhaps the only fit. SMU is in Dallas, the nation’s fifth-largest TV market with nearly 3 million TV sets. That will get the folks in Bristol’s attention. And Dallas is in Texas, perhaps the most hallowed of all ground for football, from little league to the NFL. And SMU is a solid academic university, ranking #68 in the US News best national colleges and universities rankings.

 

https://augustafreepress.com/acc-commissioner-jim-phillips-all-options-on-the-table-to-grow-the-acc/

[Hunter Green]

Probably already been discussed, but if Smut were to leave, who should replace them? La Tech? Army? 

[MeanGreenGlory]

8 minutes ago, Hunter Green said:

Probably already been discussed, but if Smut were to leave, who should replace them? La Tech? Army? 

Whether SMU leaves or not, I hope the AAC gets Air Force and Colorado State at minimum. A few other MWC schools might be nice additions as well. 

[RBP79]

Frankly...I don't give a damn where Smut ends up! I'll trade Smut for CSU, AF, Army, LaTech any day just to shut them up!

[TCC Mean Green]

If SMU goes to ACC, teams like UNC, Clemson, Duke will not stay. Florida State doesn’t want to play SMU.  Clemson doesn’t want to play SMU. They can get Texas or A&M to play and have 100,000 fans!

[UNTLifer]

2 hours ago, dodgefan said:

Adding TV sets to the ACC’s footprint is a clear path to opening the possibility of “renegotiating” the current TV revenue deal with ESPN. There simply aren’t many schools that bring to the table what the ACC needs, including academic standing, market size, geographic fit.

Southern Methodist University located in Dallas is perhaps the only fit. SMU is in Dallas, the nation’s fifth-largest TV market with nearly 3 million TV sets. That will get the folks in Bristol’s attention. And Dallas is in Texas, perhaps the most hallowed of all ground for football, from little league to the NFL. And SMU is a solid academic university, ranking #68 in the US News best national colleges and universities rankings.

 

https://augustafreepress.com/acc-commissioner-jim-phillips-all-options-on-the-table-to-grow-the-acc/

The only problem is that nobody in Dallas watches smu.  They can't deliver the viewers we can.

[97and03]

14 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

The only problem is that nobody in Dallas watches smu.  They can't deliver the viewers we can.

[NT80]

32 minutes ago, 97and03 said:

UNT's alumni includes 434,000 members, with 294,000 alumni who live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

SMU has 126,695 alumni worldwide, with 57,049 in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. 

[97and03]

28 minutes ago, NT80 said:

UNT's alumni includes 434,000 members, with 294,000 alumni who live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

SMU has 126,695 alumni worldwide, with 57,049 in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. 

They ain’t coming to games or watching, just like SMUt. 

[PlummMeanGreen]

On 7/22/2022 at 9:10 AM, TCC Mean Green said:

If SMU goes to ACC, teams like UNC, Clemson, Duke will not stay. Florida State doesn’t want to play SMU.  Clemson doesn’t want to play SMU. They can get Texas or A&M to play and have 100,000 fans!

Hey TCC Mean Green, have those  schools actually gone on record saying they didn’t want to play SMU?  Have a link?                                             _______________

All should put themselves  in the shoes of an SMU alum to understand their anguish in moving up. We would be if we were ready, but Smatresk & WBaker have a few more miracles to pull off, venue-wise.  As far as SMU is concerned, this will probably be their last chance to make a dramatic conference move for awhile. 

Reading GMG, it’s easy to see all agree UNT needs to put itself in a better winning situation with better attendance.  Many times in the past when serious  re-alignment talk comes up we are deficient in some areas athletically & in venues.  Not as much now in the latter. *NFL scouts are sure impressed with our Indoor Practice Facility, aren’t they? 

Back To the Beep! Beeps!
 Some I’ve spoken to have asked  “is  UTSA in the process of passing us by in football & football attendance?”  Well…time will tell, but UTSA does have an impressive 2022 home football schedule to draw at home.  
Told some 3+ years ago:  “Watch out for UTSA when they start winning.”  
Why? (1) They have a large stadium plus it’s covered & (2) they have a tourist destination city who shows big signs that they will support a winner.  •••Their UAB win last year in the Alamodome is a big hint of that.
•••They had 50K+ fans for their program opening game over 10 years ago.
•••UTSA almost reminds me how Bill Yeoman’s UH football program really started taking off in 1965 when they first moved to a large domed stadium.  UH also had a city who would support a winner.  

🏳 Hardly waving a white flag here since UNT has 10X’s better venues for all its varsity sports than UTSA, but somehow we just have to get Mean Green football back up & running toward an annual Top 25 level. Others in the American have certainly done it.    UNT has no choice now but to do it. 

Edited July 23, 2022 by PlummMeanGreen

[MrAlien]

college football is very popular in DFW the problem is, the only people in DFW that really watch SMU games are people that are connected to the university, and its not that many, Big12 and other top 25 schools are the big tv draw in this market. 

Memphis might be a better for the ACC..

[Rudy]

Further proof that journalism is dead. 

[UNTLifer]

11 hours ago, 97and03 said:

They ain’t coming to games or watching, just like SMUt. 

True, but our fans have proven they will show up for a winner.  Win or lose, smu's fans don't show.

[El Paso Eagle]

@Harryand Mods. Can we please start moving the SMU threads to another location? At first it was sort of funny but now it's getting ridiculous that almost everything on the North Texas football thread is about SMU. Some of you people need to get over it or just sign on to the SMU board.

[Mike Jackson]

On 7/22/2022 at 6:34 AM, dodgefan said:

Southern Methodist University located in Dallas is perhaps the only fit. SMU is in Dallas, the nation’s fifth-largest TV market with nearly 3 million TV sets. That will get the folks in Bristol’s attention. And Dallas is in Texas, perhaps the most hallowed of all ground for football, from little league to the NFL. And SMU is a solid academic university, ranking #68 in the US News best national colleges and universities rankings.

I think we all need to pause and stop quoting lazy writers.  These observations are not coming from the decision makers.  Since the dissolution of the SWC, SMU Football/Basketball has remained in the same place as a media product.  That is why from a brand recognition standpoint their conference foes are at the same level they were in 1995 CUSA.   If market size and academics were so important there is absolutely no way Cincinnati, Louisville, and UCF all get upgraded and leave SMU behind. Those schools COMBINED represent about 3.2 million TV homes in their market and DFW has 2.7 million.  These TV executives actually have the data from SMU games on TV so you can’t sell them "potential”.  

[UNTLifer]

BREAKING NEWS:  SMU is being accused of paying writers to make up stories about P5 conference interest just to keep there name out there. More to come…

Edited July 24, 2022 by UNTLifer

[dodgefan]

On 7/23/2022 at 1:05 AM, NT80 said:

UNT's alumni includes 434,000 members, with 294,000 alumni who live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

SMU has 126,695 alumni worldwide, with 57,049 in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. 

This is perfect evidence, on why there is zero excuses for UNT to sell out every game, in a 30,000 seat stadium and have an NIL program that competes with almost any program.  

[NT80]

2 hours ago, dodgefan said:

This is perfect evidence, on why there is zero excuses for UNT to sell out every game,

14-21 the last 3 seasons is the answer.

[MrAlien]

UNT, though a large university, students and alumni do not care about sports.  The school does a poor job of marketing their sports program to the metroplex.  I'll give smu some credit, they do a good job of making sure their program is in the conversation. 

[Jonnyeagle]

14 minutes ago, MrAlien said:

UNT, though a large university, students and alumni do not care about sports.  The school does a poor job of marketing their sports program to the metroplex.  I'll give smu some credit, they do a good job of making sure their program is in the conversation. 

True but they also have more money to fund these campaigns.

[meanJewGreen]

Regardless of all these rumors for some reason I don't believe we'll ever actually play SMU in conference...

[MrAlien]

5 hours ago, Jonnyeagle said:

True but they also have more money to fund these campaigns.

its basic marketing and promotions... somebody in Denton should have this job, if they dont already.  Its not that hard nor is it expensive to send out press releases to the local sports media, or tag these people on twitter.  while they are at it, reach out to all the major local sports bars and make sure they have UNT games on their lists.  

[El Paso Eagle]

10 hours ago, MrAlien said:

UNT, though a large university, students and alumni do not care about sports.  The school does a poor job of marketing their sports program to the metroplex.  I'll give smu some credit, they do a good job of making sure their program is in the conversation. 

Sadly, many do not care about UNT sports. A lot of our alumni are big time college football fans but have no faith that winning has been important to the University and Athletic leadership. Get pissed all you want and try and justify it, but with this many alums' so close to the school and to year after year have the attendance issues the issue is systemic and has still not been addressed. A lot of people want the school they support to take steps to make winning a priority.

[emmitt01]

7 hours ago, meanJewGreen said:

Regardless of all these rumors for some reason I don't believe we'll ever actually play SMU in conference...

Why?  Do you think we’ll get a P5 invite, because that’s the only thing that would prevent it

[meanJewGreen]

1 hour ago, emmitt01 said:

Why?  Do you think we’ll get a P5 invite, because that’s the only thing that would prevent it

Emmitt, you should not be drinking green kool aid on a Monday night