SMU gets 5* RB transfer from Alabama

Cr1028 · April 13, 2022

15 minutes ago, DentonStang said:

Just landed a bball transfer, also former 5 star recruit. I love NIL. Y'all should really try it.

https://247sports.com/Player/Keith-Frazier-13031/high-school-28347/

Texas Stranger · April 13, 2022

36 minutes ago, DentonStang said:

Just landed a bball transfer, also former 5 star recruit. I love NIL. Y'all should really try it.

We don't have to pay gobs of money to get people to transfer to a G5/Mid Major.

But hey, if that's what it takes for y'all, then get after it.

GMG_Dallas · April 13, 2022

1 hour ago, DentonStang said:

Just landed a bball transfer, also former 5 star recruit. I love NIL. Y'all should really try it.

Looks like he really struggled to score at Louisville. At least he can rebound...

Edited April 13, 2022 by GMG_Dallas

UNTLifer · April 13, 2022

1 hour ago, DentonStang said:

Just landed a bball transfer, also former 5 star recruit. I love NIL. Y'all should really try it.

Thanks for the update ponyqueen. Noted by your rivals.

MeanGreen_MBA · April 13, 2022

10 hours ago, dodgefan said:

Hoping Siggers gets a chance to shine, but, look at this video!

Speed kills

MeanGreenTexan · April 14, 2022

5 hours ago, Texas Stranger said:

We don't have THE RESOURCES to pay gobs of money to get people to transfer to a G5/Mid Major.

But hey, if that's what it takes for y'all, then get after it.

FIFY.

untjim1995 · April 14, 2022

1 minute ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

FIFY.

This.

They have $$$ and business connections in Dallas. It’s not hard to understand how they will do ok with this. But it’s very ironic they had their program nuked because they were so far ahead of the game 40 years ago.

Texas Stranger · April 14, 2022

No one disputes they have more money than Satan. The point is what is it getting them? They're where we, UTSA, Charlotte, Troy, San Jose State, and Eastern Michigan are. But yes, they can (and will) pretend to be the tallest midget. Not much of a ROI, I'm thinking.

southsideguy · April 14, 2022

Can we move this post to the SMUT fan forum? I mean the SMUT forum.

DentonStang · April 14, 2022

You

13 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Looks like he really struggled to score at Louisville. At least he can rebound...

There are some questions there, but even if he doesn't live up to original expectations it's an upgrade

DentonStang · April 14, 2022

I keep seeing comments about not having the money to do NIL. I keep telling you most aren't getting huge money out there across all of football. If 100 fans just kick in $1000/yr you can add some talent.

keith · April 14, 2022

I don't pretend to know anything about the two individual situations, but are we sure all transfers are chasing NIL money? Both here appear to be getting back closer to home...is that a primary motivation? We're familiar with that scenario. Sometimes it's as grad transfer and sometimes it's in the middle of their college careers. Young men are often lured away with big eyes based on promises or for "greener" pastures and then find out they don't really fit or things aren't as great as they were when they were wined and dined during their recruiting visit. Everyone has to find their own way.

If this improves the stature and competitiveness of our future conference, then that's a good thing IMHO. The old rising tide lifts all ships thing. Painful that it's SMU, but it is what it is. We need to step up our own game.

Edited April 14, 2022 by keith

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · April 14, 2022

On 4/12/2022 at 9:57 PM, mustangfan said:

North Texas fans could be right on this one being a bust. I mean why would he leave Bama is my question. I will always give you guys the benefit of the doubt. My yard guy went to NT and he seems to be a pretty sharp guy and right about a lot of things.

I’ll admit I laughed at this

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · April 14, 2022

And for NIL, UNT doesn’t care about it. It will put us in a bad position soon if we don’t start getting involved like UTSA and SMU.

DentonStang · April 14, 2022

57 minutes ago, keith said:

I don't pretend to know anything about the two individual situations, but are we sure all transfers are chasing NIL money? Both here appear to be getting back closer to home...is that a primary motivation? We're familiar with that scenario. Sometimes it's as grad transfer and sometimes it's in the middle of their college careers. Young men are often lured away with big eyes based on promises or for "greener" pastures and then find out they don't really fit or things aren't as great as they were when they were wined and dined during their recruiting visit. Everyone has to find their own way.

If this improves the stature and competitiveness of our future conference, then that's a good thing IMHO. The old rising tide lifts all ships thing. Painful that it's SMU, but it is what it is. We need to step up our own game.

This hits on a misconception I keep seeing on here. There are not a lot of players being outright purchased by programs according to what is being reported on our there. It is just being used to put someone over the edge. NIL program is just another factor like offense type, playing time, coach relationship, etc. If you aren't participating you aren't paying basic table stakes. Might as well be trying to get a QB to transfer to you and never tell him the offense you run.

This is critical stuff.

Edited April 14, 2022 by DentonStang

GMG_Dallas · April 14, 2022

4 minutes ago, DentonStang said:

Might as well be trying to get a QB to transfer to you and never tell him the offense you run.

Ok but with the way our offense has been lately, this might not be a bad idea.

outoftown · April 14, 2022

24 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Ok but with the way our offense has been lately, this might not be a bad idea.

Don't know wheter to use laugh or cry emoj on this one. i need one that does both at once.

UNTLifer · April 14, 2022

11 hours ago, southsideguy said:

Can we move this post to the SMUT fan forum? I mean the SMUT forum.

You were right the first time, SMUT fan forum, fan being singular.

keith · April 14, 2022

1 hour ago, DentonStang said:

This hits on a misconception I keep seeing on here. There are not a lot of players being outright purchased by programs according to what is being reported on our there. It is just being used to put someone over the edge. NIL program is just another factor like offense type, playing time, coach relationship, etc. If you aren't participating you aren't paying basic table stakes. Might as well be trying to get a QB to transfer to you and never tell him the offense you run.

This is critical stuff.

Let me make sure I understand...you're saying NIL is just a piece of the puzzle and can be used as a sweetener to get a fence-sitter over to your side and it doesn't necessarily take a truck load of $ to do that? It may just take some extra walking-around money, but if you're doing nothing, you're fighting an uphill battle.

It will be interesting to see how this NIL money/compensation is taxed. Are they going to be paying self-employment taxes or will they be considered employees of the University or AD?

DeepGreen · April 14, 2022

Question. What's to keep a big "cigar smoking" business owner from putting a big time recruit on the company payroll?

Green Otaku · April 14, 2022

2 hours ago, outoftown said:

Don't know wheter to use laugh or cry emoj on this one. i need one that does both at once.

The perfect gif:

DentonStang · April 14, 2022

2 hours ago, keith said:

Let me make sure I understand...you're saying NIL is just a piece of the puzzle and can be used as a sweetener to get a fence-sitter over to your side and it doesn't necessarily take a truck load of $ to do that? It may just take some extra walking-around money, but if you're doing nothing, you're fighting an uphill battle.

It will be interesting to see how this NIL money/compensation is taxed. Are they going to be paying self-employment taxes or will they be considered employees of the University or AD?

Correct. I'm sure Arch Manning or someone like that is a mega payday, but your average upgrade player most teams is not massive. There are a few articles out there about it separating rumor from fact.

Pavlovs Eagle · April 15, 2022

On 4/13/2022 at 3:10 PM, DentonStang said:

I love NIL. Y'all should really try it.

Hes Right GIF by MOODMAN

97and03 · April 15, 2022

22 hours ago, keith said:

Let me make sure I understand...you're saying NIL is just a piece of the puzzle and can be used as a sweetener to get a fence-sitter over to your side and it doesn't necessarily take a truck load of $ to do that? It may just take some extra walking-around money, but if you're doing nothing, you're fighting an uphill battle.

It will be interesting to see how this NIL money/compensation is taxed. Are they going to be paying self-employment taxes or will they be considered employees of the University or AD?

FOR THE MILLIONTH FRIGGIN TIME FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON’T GET IT:

NIL IS NOT FROM THE SCHOOL BUT FROM COMPANIES OR DONORS DIRECTLY TO THE STUDENT.

People here saying “UNT doesn’t want to do NIL” do not at all understand the process. The only role the university has is making sure the student athletes are complying with the rules and understanding their obligations. So yes since it is an endorsement deal, like any other, they would have to pay taxes on their earnings.

GrandGreen · April 16, 2022

9 hours ago, 97and03 said:

FOR THE MILLIONTH FRIGGIN TIME FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON’T GET IT:

NIL IS NOT FROM THE SCHOOL BUT FROM COMPANIES OR DONORS DIRECTLY TO THE STUDENT.

People here saying “UNT doesn’t want to do NIL” do not at all understand the process. The only role the university has is making sure the student athletes are complying with the rules and understanding their obligations. So yes since it is an endorsement deal, like any other, they would have to pay taxes on their earnings.

If you believe most schools have nothing to do with NIL deals, then I guess you believe the Easter Bunny will be hopping down your street Sunday.

Edited April 16, 2022 by GrandGreen