Jump to content

Big 12 to expand again?

Tom McKrackin

By Tom McKrackin
in Mean Green Football

 Share

Recommended Posts

Tom McKrackin Grand Master

Tom McKrackin

Posted
Posted

Mike Gundy said this to The Oklahomanon Tuesday:

“We could be at 14 very easily, five years from now, from what I’m hearing."

Oh?

“I think there’s strength in numbers. When you watch this thing, the Big 12 always had some issues, because people would say, there’s only 10 (members).” 

Former Oklahoma president David Boren said in 2015 the conference was "psychologically disadvantaged" as a 10-team league, and that perception never really went away. There's an argument to be made that less is more from a financial perspective, but with the SEC at 16, the Big Ten at 14, and the ACC at 14 (with Notre Dame as a partial member), the thinking is that the more rocks you have to throw at the college sports establishment, the better.
 

Link:  https://footballscoop.com/news/mike-gundy-thinks-big-12-isnt-done-expanding-realignment

  • Upvote 3
Wag Tag Grand Master

Wag Tag

Posted
Posted (edited)

If any Conf needs to expand quickly it is the Pac 12.. They could add teams and get Central time zone schools. This will help a lot on their exposure. 

Edited by Wag Tag
  • Upvote 1
NT80 Grand Master

NT80

Posted
Posted
30 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

If any Conf needs to expand quickly it is the Pac 12.. They could add teams and get Central time zone schools. This will help a lot on their exposure. 

Yes, they could raid the Big12 to knock them down further when Ut, oU leave.   Pick 4 of BYU, Texas Tech, TCU, Ok St, Kansas, K-St to get to 16.

  • Upvote 1
  • Eye Roll 1
Wag Tag Grand Master

Wag Tag

Posted
Posted
22 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Yes, they could raid the Big12 to knock them down further when Ut, oU leave.   Pick 4 of BYU, Texas Tech, TCU, Ok St, Kansas, K-St to get to 16.

It makes you think is the Big going to disappear or go a C-USA route?

RBP79 Grand Master

RBP79

Posted
Posted

The same arguments made for NT not joining the MWC could be made for schools jumping from Big12 to the PAC. 

Perhaps it would be just as advantageous for PAC to join Big 12..lol.

Just my opinion.

  • Upvote 2
chrisfisher Enthusiast

chrisfisher

Posted
Posted

I really hope that they do not take Memphis and/or SMU to the Big 12 if they do expand - does not matter to me as much as related to football concerns, but I want Memphis/SMU to be part of the AAC for basketball reasons due to their ability to be consistently ranked opponents; this really helps with the NET rating and tournament selections. 

  • Upvote 3
Mean Green Matt Veteran

Mean Green Matt

Posted
Posted
10 minutes ago, chrisfisher said:

I really hope that they do not take Memphis and/or SMU to the Big 12 if they do expand - does not matter to me as much as related to football concerns, but I want Memphis/SMU to be part of the AAC for basketball reasons due to their ability to be consistently ranked opponents; this really helps with the NET rating and tournament selections. 

I'd imagine Memphis and Boise.

  • Upvote 1
wardly Grand Master

wardly

Posted
Posted

When The Big 12 lost 2 schools and added 4 there was noise that they were through for now but might revisit expansion in the future. My money is on Memphis and South Florida. The Bulls are building a state of the art indoor practice facility and plan to break ground on a campus football stadium soon. They would be a natural travel partner for USF and the Tampa Bay market, which dwarfs Boise, would be a great area for Big 12 recruiting.

  • Upvote 4
  • Downvote 1
El Paso Eagle Grand Master

El Paso Eagle

Posted
Posted
15 hours ago, wardly said:

When The Big 12 lost 2 schools and added 4 there was noise that they were through for now but might revisit expansion in the future. My money is on Memphis and South Florida. The Bulls are building a state of the art indoor practice facility and plan to break ground on a campus football stadium soon. They would be a natural travel partner for USF and the Tampa Bay market, which dwarfs Boise, would be a great area for Big 12 recruiting.

I agree with Memphis, think they will be on the top of the list. I would think they will find a western school to pair with BYU. 

  • Upvote 3
Mean Green 93-98 Grand Master

Mean Green 93-98

Posted
Posted
On 3/25/2022 at 11:42 AM, NT93 said:

I heard SMU is going to the Big 12.

As much as I hate to say it, if the Big 12 feels it still needs more bodies, how many "G5" schools are left that clearly come ahead of SMU?  Probably Memphis, maybe Boise, but who else?

I really think the Big 12 would be better served to stand pat with their recent additions, unless some school from another P5 conference shows interest.  But based on these comments, it doesn't sound like that's what they want to do.

  • Upvote 3
  • Haha 1
greenminer Grand Master

greenminer

Posted
Posted
26 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

As much as I hate to say it, if the Big 12 feels it still needs more bodies, how many "G5" schools are left that clearly come ahead of SMU?  Probably Memphis, maybe Boise, but who else?

I really think the Big 12 would be better served to stand pat with their recent additions, unless some school from another P5 conference shows interest.  But based on these comments, it doesn't sound like that's what they want to do.

I'd wait, if there is no obvious choice.  Give it 3-5 years and see if this most recent shakeup causes some new, upward trajectories.

  • Upvote 2
Matt from A700 Grand Master

Matt from A700

Posted
Posted
On 3/26/2022 at 12:04 PM, Mean Green 93-98 said:

As much as I hate to say it, if the Big 12 feels it still needs more bodies, how many "G5" schools are left that clearly come ahead of SMU?  Probably Memphis, maybe Boise, but who else?

North Texas. Give SMU a fatal kick to the nuts.

  • Upvote 6
  • Thanks 1
NTSU52 Proficient

NTSU52

Posted
Posted

If we are able to prove ourselves in the American in the next few years and actually win in the major sports consistently, than I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe NT could be apart of the next phase of B12 expansion. We have already shown our financial commitment with Apogee, the indoor, the upcoming athletic center expansion, etc. The only thing that I think could impede a jump to the B12 would be Apogees capacity. 31,000 seats is just not enough for the next level. This is why I hope an expansion will at least be on the table in the next 2-3 years.

  • Upvote 3
MeanGreenTexan Grand Master

MeanGreenTexan

Posted
Posted
7 minutes ago, NTSU52 said:

If we are able to prove ourselves in the American in the next few years and actually win in the major sports consistently, than I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe NT could be apart of the next phase of B12 expansion. We have already shown our financial commitment with Apogee, the indoor, the upcoming athletic center expansion, etc. The only thing that I think could impede a jump to the B12 would be Apogees capacity. 31,000 seats is just not enough for the next level. This is why I hope an expansion will at least be on the table in the next 2-3 years.

220px-2018-0718-CUSA-SethLittrell.png

  • Upvote 4
  • Sad 2
  • Pissed 1
Jonnyeagle Grand Master

Jonnyeagle

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, NTSU52 said:

If we are able to prove ourselves in the American in the next few years and actually win in the major sports consistently, than I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe NT could be apart of the next phase of B12 expansion. We have already shown our financial commitment with Apogee, the indoor, the upcoming athletic center expansion, etc. The only thing that I think could impede a jump to the B12 would be Apogees capacity. 31,000 seats is just not enough for the next level. This is why I hope an expansion will at least be on the table in the next 2-3 years.

I agree with you.  It really is not that far removed from where we are now.  My only concern is that SMU may cause a roadblock.

Rudy Grand Master

Rudy

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, Jonnyeagle said:

I agree with you.  It really is not that far removed from where we are now.  My only concern is that SMU may cause a roadblock.

How will $mut be a roadblock?  They aren't locks to get into the Big XII.

Victorygreen04 Experienced

Victorygreen04

Posted
Posted
5 hours ago, NTSU52 said:

If we are able to prove ourselves in the American in the next few years and actually win in the major sports consistently, than I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe NT could be apart of the next phase of B12 expansion. We have already shown our financial commitment with Apogee, the indoor, the upcoming athletic center expansion, etc. The only thing that I think could impede a jump to the B12 would be Apogees capacity. 31,000 seats is just not enough for the next level. This is why I hope an expansion will at least be on the table in the next 2-3 years.

I like the way you think. Im praying for success in major sports over the next 4-5 years. A couple of conference championships in football would be amazing and maybe a NY6 bowl. Am I delusional? 

  • Upvote 1
Matt from A700 Grand Master

Matt from A700

Posted
Posted
6 hours ago, NTSU52 said:

If we are able to prove ourselves in the American in the next few years and actually win in the major sports consistently, than I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe NT could be apart of the next phase of B12 expansion. We have already shown our financial commitment with Apogee, the indoor, the upcoming athletic center expansion, etc. The only thing that I think could impede a jump to the B12 would be Apogees capacity. 31,000 seats is just not enough for the next level. This is why I hope an expansion will at least be on the table in the next 2-3 years.

And maybe we'd just have to have an expansion plan in place. Of course in general, college athletics' attendance is going down. In a few years, UNT will have a bigger arena than Baylor and would have an arena of equal or greater size than four teams in the new Big 12. And the three smallest football stadiums in the new Big 12 will be from the four new additions (Albeit, they all seat at least 40,000 and not 30,000..)

  • Confused 1

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Tell a friend

    Love GoMeanGreen.com? Tell a friend!

  • What's going on Mean Green?

    1. 23

      Mensah Getting $8 Million NIL Deal

      You got it dumbass. Seriously, let’s look at the two situations without inserting race since you felt the need. Mensah is a RS Freshmen that entered the portal stating his price. He didn’t get a degree from Tulane and probably cleared out some basics while there. Mensah may be a great student and may live up to his last name, but his academic success was never mentioned just that he was entering the portal and here is his price Morris was at North Texas as a student that had already earned his degree, the reason he missed spring practice, and a dollar amount was never mentioned regarding his transfer/entering the portal. You chose to read it as a racial observation, not me. You were looking for something that wasn’t there nor considered when I made my comment. I was just adding in to another poster’s comments. Stupid financial decisions are not the result of race but thanks for. Inferring that. Watch the “30 for 30” episode titled “Broke” and it will reveal that it happens to all races. Thanks for being who you are though. I would be shocked if you replied differently.
      • 1
      • Puking Eagle
      UNTLifer in Mean Green Football
    2. 1

      Where are they now? Jason Edwards

      Makes it sound like we are just the minor leagues for these guys. No NT HOF for youuuuuu!
      NT80 in Mean Green Basketball
    3. 94

      Portal players leaving

      I think the fact that he's playing in the bowl game shows 1) he just wants to play and 2) it just shows more of the drive and commitment that's gotten him to where he his. I'm not gonna' fault him for leaving if they aren't rewarding him with a scholarship and especially if it looks like he isn't going to be in the main rotation next year. That feels like "thanks for bailing us out, now go sit down."
      • 1
      • Upvote
      meaniegreenie in Mean Green Football
    4. 47

      Chris Jimmerson

      Too many "player-whisperers" these days telling kids what they should do next in their career. I'd like to see more data about players that left a program for NIL/more playing time on what the return on their investment was. If they had a do-over would they make different decisions or was it really the right move? Do players that change schools every year really have a loyalty to any of them when their playing days are over?
      • 1
      • Upvote
      NT80 in Mean Green Football
    5. 47

      Stop Blaming Athletes and the NCAA for Ruining College Football

      There is a lot of collateral damage in this Portal and NIL era. Fan-withdrawal because of PTSD associated with transferring key players will cause less emotional investment, and eventually less $$ investment in the program they follow. NIL donation requests, ticket surcharges, and pleas from ADs has displaced asking for donations for brick and mortar projects. Player buy-in to a coaching staff and program has been replaced with NIL buy-out of the players.
      NT80 in Mean Green Football

  • Popular Contributors

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      15,505
    • Most Online
      1,865
    Jepper
    Newest Member
    Jepper
    Joined

  • Most Points

    1. 1
      El Paso Eagle
      El Paso Eagle
      170,299
    2. 2
      NT80
      NT80
      137,403
    3. 3
      KingDL1
      KingDL1
      131,325
    4. 4
      greenminer
      greenminer
      123,950
    5. 5
      TheReal_jayD
      TheReal_jayD
      109,004

  • Biggest Gamblers

    1. 1
      EdtheEagle
      EdtheEagle
      26,591,267
    2. 2
      UNTLifer
      UNTLifer
      4,480,984
    3. 3
      untphd
      untphd
      841,171
    4. 4
      flyonthewall
      flyonthewall
      670,422
    5. 5
      3_n_out
      3_n_out
      578,480
    6. 6
      SteaminWillieBeamin
    7. 7
      UNT_FH_FR_YR
      UNT_FH_FR_YR
      454,039
    8. 8
      cousin oliver
      cousin oliver
      448,120
    9. 9
      meangreenfaninno
    10. 10
      South Texas Green

WE BELIEVE IN THE MEAN GREEN!

News

Recruiting

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Please review our full Privacy Policy before using our site.